posted January 24, 2017 09:33 PM            

Are you guys really secretive, even with small things? As a 1st house moon, it's hard for me to understand.

posted January 24, 2017 11:46 PM            

I am not as secretive as I used to be, but I am still quite secretive. There's a lot of information about me that I don't like giving to people, and a lot of it is because people can't be trusted with that kind of information. It's hard for me to trust someone with that kind of information and not have to worry about them taking that information and using it to personally hurt me; which has happened in the past. If I do open up to you with that kind of information and you do use it against me, you better say goodbye to my trust in you; you shouldn't have done that.

I used to be extremely secretive about the littlest things when I was younger, but not so much anymore. I'm more honest about things and am a bit more open, but there are only a few people who actually know who I really am deep down. One of those people has a Scorpio Stellium, and I know she knows what it's like to be betrayed like that, so I can trust her. Plus, she's helped me out with troubling experiences in the past and has been a good friend to me.

When dealing with an 8th house Moon, you need to respect their boundaries and prove to them that you can be trusted. We are good at smelling ******** , so you need to be honest with them and open. If they're not being honest, and or lying, then you need to talk with them. If you argue with them over it, they're not going to tell you anything. Once you earn their trust, take care of it, otherwise if you break their trust, the result can be like a slap in the face, and that's not what you would want to deal with.

posted January 25, 2017 12:09 AM            

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Originally posted by Electro DGX:

When dealing with an 8th house Moon, you need to respect their boundaries and prove to them that you can be trusted. We are good at smelling ******** , so you need to be honest with them and open. If they're not being honest, and or lying, then you need to talk with them. If you argue with them over it, they're not going to tell you anything. Once you earn their trust, take care of it, otherwise if you break their trust, the result can be like a slap in the face, and that's not what you would want to deal with.

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That's interesting, Electro. You nailed my boyfriend down to the last detail. He's EXACTLY as you described an 8th house moon.

I'm very open about everything with him and I am quite honest. I find it very difficult to lie. Whenever I do, I end up spilling the beans sooner or later. This is why I don't understand why he'd keep something so small. I'm not even that kind of girlfriend who asks for all his passwords or tries to dig too much into everything he's doing. I let him do his own thing. All I had was a spark of intuition that made me ask who he was with that one day he went somewhere "alone" (supposedly).

When I first had the gut feeling and found the first piece of evidence, I freaked out completely and he kept denying it instead. Today, I confronted him more calmly and he finally admitted he went to see his ex that one day.

I feel very disappointed, though.

posted January 25, 2017 12:19 AM            

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Originally posted by Solar_Leo_Queen:

That's interesting, Electro. You nailed my boyfriend down to the last detail. He's EXACTLY as you described an 8th house moon.

I'm very open about everything with him and I am quite honest. I find it very difficult to lie. Whenever I do, I end up spilling the beans sooner or later. This is why I don't understand why he'd keep something so small.

When I first had the gut feeling and found the first piece of evidence, I freaked out completely and he kept denying it instead. Today, I confronted him more calmly and he finally admitted he went to see his ex that one day.

I feel very disappointed, though.

Do you get that a lot? People not trusting you either because you seem just as untrustworthy as you see others?

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Not necessarily. People usually come to me because they do trust me, and I don't tell people their secrets. I can keep a secret until I die and that's a promise. Usually it's me with the severe trust issues; if anything, people complain about me not opening up to people more than being untrustworthy.

Perhaps, because you have lied in the past, he is unsure of whether or not to open up to you and trust you completely. It could also be because he just has trouble opening up to people; sometimes, telling people deep secrets about myself is like sticking my hand down my stomach and pulling out everything inside. It's a gross feeling. One big potential indicator though may be that his Moon is in Capricorn; it's like having a barrier on your emotions and being unable to let them out. He is the type of person that really doesn't want to open up, and if situations are too extreme he will most likely have an emotional breakdown. Cap Moons try to stay as composed as they can be but can be prone to falling apart if the situation is too much.

You should try having a discussion with him regarding why he was so hesitant to tell you that he saw his ex, and why he won't open up to you. Just be like, "do you want to talk?" and go on and ask him about it. If it's out of the blue and random, he's going to retreat and be like, "NO WAY." If I'm asked a question I'm not prepared for, I will freeze up and not reply to the question, instead of lying about it.

posted January 25, 2017 10:44 AM            

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d the gut feeling and found the first piece of evidence, I freaked out completely and he kept denying it instead. Today, I confronted him more calmly and he finally admitted he went to see his ex that one day.

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Is that a little thing?

posted January 25, 2017 01:32 PM            

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Is that a little thing?

Seems the topic is more about shady behavior than being reticent and keeping to ourselves.

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Well what he told me was that she was having family issues and wanted to at least have someone be there for her. They used to be best friends before they dated, so I wouod understad why he'd still care about her.

He explained to me he did not want to tell me because it was a sensitive issue. I told him I only wanted to know who he was with that day, regardless of why. He knows I don't like the idea of their "friendship" but I don't really even stop him from being friends with her. Also, he told me I was acting crazy at that time, so he didn't tell me. That was not even the case.

I just don't feel comfortable about the fact that he hides little things like this from me. You're right about that being kind of shady.

posted January 25, 2017 08:59 PM            

Thanks so much for the insight, Faith. I'll try to be more understanding of him, although I can't guarantee that's gonna make me feel better if he ever does something like this again.

Sometimes, I even fear the same thing about him that you experienced. I feel fearful that maybe he's just dating me because I am useful to him and not really because he feels connected with me. He really cared about his ex, and I know this for sure because he cried in front of me before when we were just friends. It's hard to say if he's faking it or not.

posted January 26, 2017 10:11 AM            

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Originally posted by Solar_Leo_Queen:
Are you guys really secretive, even with small things? As a 1st house moon, it's hard for me to understand.

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Funny you bring up the secretiveness with small things. I am very, very, very secretive. This is mainly because there are things about me that other people wouldn't understand if I told them, but sometimes I question why I'm also secretive about things that absolutely no one cares about but me.

My Moon in Gemini is "technically" in 7th house, by the way, but I think it has traits of being in 8th house too since I was born just minutes before it would change houses. Actually, it functions more like it's in 8th house but with a small flavoring of Moon in 7th house qualities.

Almost every single time someone brings up Moon in 8th house, I relate to the experiences.

posted January 26, 2017 10:04 PM            

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Originally posted by PixieMG:
I have my Moon in Capri, 8th house and I don't consider myself secretive but I'm a very, very private person. I don't like people knowing too much about my personal life, but I do share a lot with my boyfriend (which is a 5th house Moon, or 4th as his Moon is at 0' 15"). Still, I like to keep my most private thoughts for myself.

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posted January 26, 2017 10:17 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Thanks, Solar Leo Queen.

Best wishes with everything with your guy. Hopefully you two will connect so well, you will have no doubts about his feelings and loyalty to you. Or you will have clarity about needing more, and take those steps towards having more.

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Thank you so much, Faith. You have been very kind. Best wishes to you as well

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Originally posted by Lerena:
Yes/no questions aren't difficult for me unless I'm stressed or in an extremely depressive mood. Even then, however, it's how my response is handled that makes me lie in these situations. Still, I'm trying to stop doing that, because I hate lying.

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Your response is similar to what my boyfriend told me when I asked him why he kept it from me. He said I started acting "crazy" and he felt triggered and uncomfortable, so he lied. I was not even acting crazy. I just asked a simple question. Maybe it was the way I asked it? I might have asked him in a very accusatory tone, too. If I did, it was most likely an initial reaction to my gut instinct. After he denied it when I first asked, I asked again trying to force it out of him. I can easily tell when someone is lying. I think my intuition is really strong, but I tend to disregard it most of the time unless I find confirmation. I asked him the question when I first found the evidence he went to see her.

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So, what is it like having Moon in 1st house? I find that it can be secretive too if the Moon is in signs like Capricorn or possibly Scorpio.

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Yes, you are right. I have Moon in the 1st house and I am very secretive about my own feelings. I have Cancer moon, so this highly contributes to it. Most 1st house moon descriptions don't really fit me. I don't generally just "wear my heart on my sleeve". I keep emotions to myself because I fear people calling me crazy or irrational. However, even though I keep feelings to myself, people still somehow sense when something is wrong with me. It's terrifying. Whenever I feel like being left alone, people smother me more. I don't generally hide secrets though, especially little things. I'm a very upfront and straightforward person, so I find it hard to lie (not saying I haven't ever done so). It's just feelings I like to keep to myself.

posted January 27, 2017 03:27 AM            

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Originally posted by Solar_Leo_Queen:

That's interesting, Electro. You nailed my boyfriend down to the last detail. He's EXACTLY as you described an 8th house moon.

I'm very open about everything with him and I am quite honest. I find it very difficult to lie. Whenever I do, I end up spilling the beans sooner or later. This is why I don't understand why he'd keep something so small. I'm not even that kind of girlfriend who asks for all his passwords or tries to dig too much into everything he's doing. I let him do his own thing. All I had was a spark of intuition that made me ask who he was with that one day he went somewhere "alone" (supposedly).

When I first had the gut feeling and found the first piece of evidence, I freaked out completely and he kept denying it instead. Today, I confronted him more calmly and he finally admitted he went to see his ex that one day.

I feel very disappointed, though.

Do you get that a lot? People not trusting you either because to them, you seem just as untrustworthy as you see them?

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The way I read this without knowing your boyfriend is not necesarily related to astrology. the fact that a boyfriend is hiding and even lied in first place about seeing his ex suggest me that he MAY be interested in his ex or he MAY be unfinished business with her. Please, take this with a grain of salt. I do not know your relationship, but a guy hiding this has nothing to do with moon placement. Of course moon in 8th can be secretive as moon-pluto (myself) can be secretive, but this is beyond being secretive.

I do not know the details of your relationship and his relationship with his ex. You know better, but again, in my opinion this type of things should be considered in the context of the entire relationship not his moon placement. probably you will get a better answer about him hiding things if you talk to someone who really know you both and can give you more realistic evaluation. one thing is the description of the moon in 8th and another is to use his moon in 8th as a justification for his lies.

Sorry to be blunt, just bringing a non-astrological perspective for something that can be explained without astrological means.

best wishes

posted January 27, 2017 03:47 AM            

when reading it, I was actually having similiar thoughts.

This sounds to me like it exceeds a simply Moon-8th-house thing.

to bring it back to astrology, my Dad has Moon in 8th house, and he is extremely honest and neither able nor trying to keep anything from my Mom (whose Scorpio Sun opposes this).

I do think however, when they started dating, he was still in contact with his ex as well, but did not hide it cause he did not think about it this much until my Mom gave him a piece of her mind about this, and also pointed out that by being friendly with his ex still like this he might keep up her hopes (the break up was a little onesided I think), or otherwise he should think about what he wants and tell her (my mom), so she could make plans for her OWN future, with or without him.

As far as my mom told me, that was a pretty grown up discussions, without evasiveness or drama.

bottom line is my Dad explained to his ex he couldn`t keep up the contact anylonger, as he did not want to give her any hopes, and obviously he got married to my Mom.

The thing is, he did not really think too deeply about maintaining contact with his Ex (his Venus and Sun are in Aqua), but he did not see any reason to hide it either and he saw my moms point and he made a decision and was sticking to it.

I think they were even later on coincidentally bumping into his Ex, and everything went fine and amicably,so it is possible to solve these things. But ONLY with honesty, trust and knowing what you want.

That is the other thing about Moon in 8th - they are VERY loyal, they have firm priniciples.

Now the question is is he feeling loyal to YOU?

Imo that is what you have to find out, how much commitment he really feels for you.

posted January 27, 2017 03:50 AM            

when reading it, I was actually thinking the same things.

This sounds to me like it exceeds a simply Moon-8th-house thing.

to bring it back to astrology, my Dad has Moon in 8th house, and he is extremely honest and neither able nor trying to keep anything from my Mom (whose Scorpio Sun opposes this).

I do think however, when they started dating, he was still in contact with his ex as well, but did not hide it cause he did not think about it this much until my Mom gave him a piece of her mind about this, and also pointed out that by being friendly with his ex still like this he might keep up her hopes (the break up was a little onesided I think), or otherwise he should think about what he wants and tell her (my mom), so she could make plans for her OWN future, with or without him.

As far as my mom told me, that was a pretty grown up discussions, without evasiveness or drama.

bottom line is my Dad explained to his ex he couldn`t keep up the contact anylonger, as he did not want to give her any hopes, and obviously he got married to my Mom.

The thing is, he did not really think too deeply about maintaining contact with his Ex (his Venus and Sun are in Aqua), but he did not see any reason to hide it either and he saw my moms point and he made a decision and was sticking to it.

I think they were even later on coincidentally bumping into his Ex, and everything went fine and amicably,so it is possible to solve these things. But ONLY with honesty, trust and knowing what you want.

That is the other thing about Moon in 8th - they are VERY loyal, they have firm priniciples.

Now the question is is he feeling loyal to YOU?

Imo that is what you have to find out, how much commitment he really feels for you.

posted January 27, 2017 10:14 AM            

I understand that one placement is not enough to tell how a person is, but this is one of his strongest placements. That's why I asked specifically about it. He was always secretive, especially about his personal life. He does not share anything unless he feels comfortable doing so.

Last night, he actually pulled me to our room in private to talk to me after 2 days of me withdrawing from him. He told me outright he knew I was still mad about it and he said he will be honest from now on when I ask him something. He assured me they were just friends (they used to be best friends before dating). He barely really has any friends, so the ones who are real enough to be his friends, he keeps them around no matter what. He said he wanted to really put it behind us and I saw sincerity when he said it, so I decided to let it go. I did tell him if it ever happens again, he'll lose my trust for good.