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Topic: Seer/ Castle/ Envelope Planetary Pattern
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Angelic star
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posted January 29, 2017 05:56 PM
 
Does anyone know much about this pattern. I tried looking it up on the internet but very few sources are available and much less research done on this pattern. Need some help understanding this.
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hypatia238
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posted January 29, 2017 11:12 PM
 Hello out of all the members in this forum that may help you with this, Leeloo or Ceridwen are your best bets, they are the ones that are more familiar with astrological patterns. I will transfer this to Astrology 2.0 as I feel this is a more advanced question and you are more likely to get responses there. IP: Logged |
Angelic star
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posted January 30, 2017 05:27 AM
Hi there, thank you for helping and moving this question  IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted January 30, 2017 07:02 AM
sounds like something from the Huber aspect patterns. Can you post the chart in question? IP: Logged |
girlwiththerainysoul
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posted January 30, 2017 07:33 AM
Just yesterday I was looking at a composite and it was the first time ever I saw an envelope. The chart is actually for two people who aren't on good terms, but I suppose there's a great understanding and stability/structure between them. IP: Logged |
Angelic star
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posted January 30, 2017 07:35 AM
Hi Ceridwen I do not exactly know how to post the image, but technically there are two envelope/castle patterns in the chart. I am not sure how to post the image here.
I am attaching a link to the chart below. Thank you for your replies. IP: Logged |
Angelic star
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posted January 30, 2017 07:40 AM
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Originally posted by girlwiththerainysoul:
Just yesterday I was looking at a composite and it was the first time ever I saw an envelope. The chart is actually for two people who aren't on good terms, but I suppose there's a great understanding and stability/structure between them.
Very interesting , I feel this is like a very rare pattern, there isn't much written on it or researched on it, so it is hard to understand this. I have looked at many charts of many different people, but the envelope is rare. It definitely brings a lot more communciation and stability than the mystic rectangle. This particular chart has two mystic rectangles as well , I think to have a castle you need to have a mystic rectangle anyways. IP: Logged |
Angelic star
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posted January 30, 2017 07:57 AM
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Faith
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posted January 30, 2017 08:42 AM
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This unusual figure of composed aspects is formed by a mystic rectangle, to which an additional planet is linked by a sextile.The figure seems to have the same assets as the mystic rectangle, but with more vivacity and versatility. The four sextiles increase the sense of communication, at least as far as we can suppose, and until statistical researches produce more elaborated theories on the topic.
http://www.astrotheme.com/files/figures-composed-aspects.php quote:
The Envelope is formed by a Mystic Rectangle with the addition of a Minor Grand Trine. In this configuration, the sextiles make the chart more dynamic, with the result that it is easier to identify opportunities as they come up. The Envelope eases communication, mutual assistance, self-expression, travelling and social life.
http://www.free-horoscope.com/astrology/low-down/patterns-astrology.htm IP: Logged |
Angelic star
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posted January 30, 2017 09:45 AM
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Originally posted by Faith:
[QUOTE]This unusual figure of composed aspects is formed by a mystic rectangle, to which an additional planet is linked by a sextile. The figure seems to have the same assets as the mystic rectangle, but with more vivacity and versatility. The four sextiles increase the sense of communication, at least as far as we can suppose, and until statistical researches produce more elaborated theories on the topic.
http://www.astrotheme.com/files/figures-composed-aspects.php quote:
The Envelope is formed by a Mystic Rectangle with the addition of a Minor Grand Trine. In this configuration, the sextiles make the chart more dynamic, with the result that it is easier to identify opportunities as they come up. The Envelope eases communication, mutual assistance, self-expression, travelling and social life.
http://www.free-horoscope.com/astrology/low-down/patterns-astrology.htm [/QUOTE]Thank you for the information.
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Ceridwen
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posted January 30, 2017 10:19 AM
Great info, Faith!IP: Logged |
Enneline
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posted January 30, 2017 11:03 AM
i have them all: envelope, castle, cradle. Haven't found satisfying interpretations either IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted January 30, 2017 01:48 PM
I think we can deduce the Interpretation ourselves bya) the visuals
Where is it pointing? Some aspect pattern have something like an arrow, and everything else seems to work for where the tip Points to. b) the involved aspects
a lot of blue aspects as Frame with red aspects inside?
Seems harmonious to the outside, but don`t be fooled, there is a lot of dynamic energy motivating that Person, but the blue aspects help to soften that Dynamo.
c) the shape
quadrangular shapes are usually very stable but can be a bit fixed, closed Patterns, it just Looks as if noone gets into this and possibly noone out. Very stable, but also possibly fixated. triangular Patterns have a Basis but then this arrow-like Thing, somewhere to go. They seem more dynamic somehow, even as a Grand trine.
It`s like every planet is saying this is where we want to go as unit, so we all work for that planet at the Peak of the triangle. Of Course in an equilateral triangle all three Points can be the tip of the arrow. Usually however it becomes visually clear which is dominant. Esp. in a Kite.
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Angelic star
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posted January 31, 2017 01:22 AM
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I think we can deduce the Interpretation ourselves bya) the visuals
Where is it pointing? Some aspect pattern have something like an arrow, and everything else seems to work for where the tip Points to. b) the involved aspects
a lot of blue aspects as Frame with red aspects inside?
Seems harmonious to the outside, but don`t be fooled, there is a lot of dynamic energy motivating that Person, but the blue aspects help to soften that Dynamo.
c) the shape
quadrangular shapes are usually very stable but can be a bit fixed, closed Patterns, it just Looks as if noone gets into this and possibly noone out. Very stable, but also possibly fixated. triangular Patterns have a Basis but then this arrow-like Thing, somewhere to go. They seem more dynamic somehow, even as a Grand trine.
It`s like every planet is saying this is where we want to go as unit, so we all work for that planet at the Peak of the triangle. Of Course in an equilateral triangle all three Points can be the tip of the arrow. Usually however it becomes visually clear which is dominant. Esp. in a Kite.
Ceridwen yes very stable and quiet on the outside, and very under rated because of it. Sun in Taurus makes this peace loving and earth energy looks for stability here. Good interpretation.
Thank you
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lalalinda
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posted January 31, 2017 03:29 AM
Hello Angelic star! Welcome to LL  ------------------
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Angelic star
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posted January 31, 2017 05:12 AM
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Originally posted by lalalinda:
Hello Angelic star! Welcome to LL
Hey there  Thank you so much ^_^ It is very nice to meet you <3
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SunAscendant
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posted May 29, 2020 02:58 PM
I have this in a composite with my friend too. Never knew what it meantIP: Logged |
Nadja
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posted May 29, 2020 05:33 PM
My dad has this figure in his natal chart, so I'll add that as an example. Birth time not exact.  IP: Logged |
IV4Four
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posted February 23, 2021 02:23 AM
I have this pattern as well in the chart below with someone I am highly interested in pursuing a relationship with. Any thoughts? [IMG]https://i.ibb.co/tYZPKYY/COmpostie.png[/IMG] IP: Logged |
MoonMystic
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posted February 28, 2021 05:22 PM
Lessons, karmic and otherwise that involves another. These are powerful when the person(s) involved read them in detail - houses/signs all aspects. Relationships are always about lessons. (many don't realize that) Envelopes are shared but not always recieved. I have a half opened one with my cousin.IP: Logged |
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