posted February 10, 2017 01:51 AM            

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Originally posted by Ayelet:
It is intruiging to me the way we can control our thoughts, if at all. I mean, can one deliberately choose not to think a certain thought? At the very moment you do so, you are thinking it. On the other hand, meditation is, perhaps among other things, about letting go of thoughts, which might be the only way to really control them.

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posted February 10, 2017 07:42 AM            

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Originally posted by Sulkyarcher:
You never stop thinking, even subconsciously. But that's just my opinion.

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posted February 10, 2017 08:57 AM            

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Originally posted by Ayelet:
People have arrived, through meditation, to experiencing a great light. They apparently have ceased to think by then.
I don't know about subconsciously...

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Yes. Speaking from my own experience, thoughts disappear. Meditation is not about controlling thoughts, it's about letting them have their way, go wherever they want, positive, negative, worldly, esoteric, does not matter. The only point is to not get involved in them, just let them have their own way, we don't even have to do anything, and there comes a moment when they disappear on their own. There are levels beyond this too I feel.

I usually don't like talking about these experiences because once we start talking about them, bragging about them, it becomes a habit, it feels good to show off, and once we get lost in this habit, it becomes a hindrance on the path. Same about psychic abilities, they develop on their own once we get to a certain level, but if we get involved in it, cling to these abilities, those same abilities don't let us move forward, there is a danger of stagnating at the same level. When it comes to the occult world, the less we exhibit them, the better.

posted February 10, 2017 09:38 AM            

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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
Yes. Speaking from my own experience, thoughts disappear. Meditation is not about controlling thoughts, it's about letting them have their way, go wherever they want, positive, negative, worldly, esoteric, does not matter. The only point is to not get involved in them, just let them have their own way, we don't even have to do anything, and there comes a moment when they disappear on their own. There are levels beyond this too I feel.

I usually don't like talking about these experiences because once we start talking about them, bragging about them, it becomes a habit, it feels good to show off, and once we get lost in this habit, it becomes a hindrance on the path. Same about psychic abilities, they develop on their own once we get to a certain level, but if we get involved in it, cling to these abilities, those same abilities don't let us move forward, there is a danger of stagnating at the same level. When it comes to the occult world, the less we exhibit them, the better.

If you're interested, give it a shot, it's worth it.

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posted February 10, 2017 12:41 PM            

There is a series of books by Martin Schullmann on Karma, reincarnation, the Nodes, etc. It explains and goes into great detail on this subject. It answers the hard questions.

I agree with sulkyarcher that good and bad must be balanced out. Paying penance.

posted February 10, 2017 09:21 PM            

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Originally posted by Lucia23:
I do believe that every thought and circumstance, everything we can conceive of or imagine a(and many things beyond the scope of our imagination), "exists" as a potentiality, theoretically, and can fuel our thoughts, feelings, learning and growth.

I just don't believe a linear kind of reincarnation exists literally--in the sense that we are *the same* individuated beings---Ron and Mary, let's say--and they were a couple in Ancient Greece and now are reborn to find each other in this life---you can see from their asteroid conjunctions!!!---and even though in this life, Ron is happily involved with Jenny and not interested in Mary and has asked the Human Resources department at their work to intervene so that Mary stops texting him. The Ancient Greece part isn't real

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Lol. Great story of Ron and Mary you have there.

posted February 12, 2017 03:02 AM            

I am like you agnostic. But I was raised in a family that was very religious. I do believe that a lot of relationships we get into are based on belief systems we create as a child. So if we saw bad relationships...we may recreate those relations or work toward making healthy relationships by challenging behaviors in the relationships we do have. I immensely believe in choices. But, I also believe there are critical points in our life...like a service station. But, it is up to us to decide how we reach those critical points.

I don't believe in twin flames/soulmates, personally I think it is the way to justify poor structured relationships. Relationships are not easy. We all come in with our own baggage. A good partner is someone who wants to evolve/grow in the same direction as you want to.

Now to your question:
What do I believe karma to be?
Karma is created by our personalities and patterns. That is why it seems like fate because it is hard to change a personality...a core personality. It is very hard to change how we react. To me Astrology shows our core personality, patterns, and responses to events. This in the end make certain events karmic because how we approach life will develop certain situation/end results.

Do I respect everyone's views? Yes, if some believes in Twin flames/soul mates, past lives, Karmic relationships, etc. That is fine.

But, I don't think I will ever. I know a person who believes their significant other is their soul mate, but the person treats them in a way I would never want to be treated. This may sound harsh, but I do also believe people use that term to avoid taking accountability for the forms of relationships they are in. It's fine if they want to be in that form of relationship, just own it.

I just don't believe every moment of our life is 'planned.' We are all working parts in an unexplained system.....at the end of the day find the explanation that brings you a sense of peace. If believing in twin flames/soul mates, gods/goddesses, angels, past lives, etc. feels like the right answer because it gives you a sense of peace. I support your choice of belief even if it's not right for me.

My religion/belief is esoteric practices. I love it and I believe in it strongly. But, I am not too into a lot of other spiritual practices.

posted February 12, 2017 08:55 AM            

Astrosophie, lehre der klassischen astrologie - arthur schult

Nur die Lehre von Karma und Reinkarnation gibt, wie schon gesagt, auch dem Kosmosophen die wahrhafte Erklärung für die Tatsachen des Horoskopes und der Astrologie.
Nie aber darf man dabei die Reinkarnation als schlechthin bindendes Kausalgesetz für jeden Menschen betrachten. Denn damit würde man den liebenden Erlöserwillen Gottes schmälern und den Menschen dem kosmischen Gesetz einer unerbittlichen Gerechtigkeit ausliefern. Das tiefste Wesen des Christentums liegt in der Aufhebung des Karmagesetzes, in der Überwindung des Gesetzes-Schicksals aus Gnade. Die Ebene von Liebe und Gnade kreutzt senkrecht die Ebene von Gesetzt und Gerechtigkeit. Wie im juristischen Bereich der Richter sich bei seinen Urteilen an die Gesetze halten muß, so unterliegt der Mensch zunächst naturhaft den kosmischen Gesetzen des Karma. Begnadigen heißt im juristischen Bereich, aus höhere Sphäre heraus aufheben eingreifen in den Gesetzeszwang. Gnade un Gerechtigkeit stehen senkrecht zueinander. Die Gnade stammt aus höhere Sphäre und gehört nicht der Ebene der Gerechtigkeit an. Den Bereich der irdischen Gerechtigkeit zu durchstoßen, das ist nur durch einen persönlichen Akt der Verantwortung vor Gott möglich. So ist es auch mit dem karmischen-kosmischen Gesetz

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posted February 15, 2017 01:00 PM            

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Originally posted by Lucia23:

I believe that at the "soul" level, we are ALL one and all partners and all twins, all united in love.

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