posted February 06, 2017 03:53 PM            

this happen with me.
But I want to know if it happens to you too, and what aspects you have that can cause this "I am manipulator unintentionally" effect
It is distressing
I do not know if it's normal,
I'm finding this weird because it's my first life in the "practical,material world", since I've got a south node in pisces

As people are a bit extreme with me, a look and a smile of mine can make someone want to be my friend and "stick" to me for next 20 years, the against,can make someone feel very hatred of me

posted February 06, 2017 03:58 PM            

For example, I could easily cause a lot of controversy just by acting out aggressively towards someone on the board if I chose to; Mars on the ASC in Scorpio is enough for me to be able to do just that. Planets like Mars and Pluto can be prone to spilling out negative and/or aggressive energy that can stir up situations and cause problems. Uranus can too, but it's not as negative and is more chaotic and unstable.

As for using this energy to control people subconsciously, the other person would have to be very susceptible to it, like strong in Pisces or Neptune so they would absorb the energy and being acting that way themselves.

posted February 06, 2017 04:09 PM            

Even the voice tone ... o_o

posted February 06, 2017 04:11 PM            

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Originally posted by Elise3090:
a person with these negative aspects in ascendant like aries or scorpio, or mars and pluto, If they commit a negative action
They are more judged by other people than someone with venus in the first house who did the same bad deed?
looks terrible

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That's not exactly what I'm saying. I said Mars on ASC in Scorpio because those are naturally aggressive and provacative placements that express that type of energy. It has to do with the idea that Scorpio Ascendants are very polarizing; that's the energy they give off. Venus on the Ascendant wouldn't be like this because Venus on the Ascendant gives off a more beautiful and harmonious energy, which isn't provacative.

posted February 06, 2017 04:15 PM            

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Originally posted by Elise3090:
Seriously, like body language or a stare, or a small gesture can really influence someone without the person noticing

Even the voice tone ... o_o

I learned the worst way, lol

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Well, if they're not noticing then it doesn't really do anything. Otherwise yes, they can play influental factors.

posted February 06, 2017 04:48 PM            

hmn,people with that "negative" energy,
Need simply to choose whether they want to be well Dear ones and influencers or not, where as a person with a libra rising is already naturally loved

I see it as a kind of natural control that you have, where you choose to "win" or "lose" (what is be a winner or not is subjective,I do not think that have a promotion at work is a winning thing o_o ... but my north node is in virgo, I'm trying to apply everything to the "real world")

I'm imagining a work environment now

The person can act this way "provocative"
Without noticing
because...

I believe in body language and i think that donald trump win with a help of BL too.
seriously!
trump has mars conjunct ascendant,he can choose between be hated or be a leader...him choose,the two options lol (+/-)

a person with scorpio rising and mars in 1°
can be very saved for himself and defensive, which creates distrust of the part of others>>>Your behavioral language is something like: mouth contracted, arms crossed, hands overlapped etc ...>>>This generate a negative emotional reaction from others,subconsciously,because these people think that scorpio rising person has something to hide or is protecting herself