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Topic: Evolved/karmically soul Question
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MoonMystic
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posted February 10, 2017 01:54 PM
  
Are there any indicators (within the sidereal, draconic or helio charts) to ascertain the level of growth the soul has achieved? Like a particular orb, sign or house? I'm using karma, kaali and a few others.--I'm thinking the Capricorn, Pisces and Aquarius are wise but would the further back on the wheel appear younger or older? Obv the higher degree orbs are more seasoned but there it depends on the sign un which it is located too. -- Any insight and/or links, essential asteroids to look at would be very appreciated. Thank you. IP: Logged |
Lucia23
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posted February 10, 2017 02:05 PM
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10. Each of us evolves through the zodiac of 12 signs in ever expanding spirals upwards. For this reason, we cannot say “because she is an Aries and I am a Sagittarius, I have evolved farther along than she has.” We have no way of knowing on which spiral she or anyone else is evolving. She, in fact, may be functioning on a higher spiral than we are. Competition is an unknown to esoteric astrology. We all walk our own unique path.
(https://www.pathwaytoascension.com/astrology/lesson1.html) IP: Logged |
soren
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posted February 10, 2017 02:41 PM
pisceans are very complex compared to aries who are more simpler. however a pisces can still be innocent while having all these genious thoughts. and an aries can still be a bit wise even with their simple view on life. with that said i doubt there is anything. south node in 12th equal last incarnation? do we on average only have 12 incarnations? i thought we had thousands. the chances of getting your south node in the 12th house in those 1000 (at least, maybe more) incarnations is 83 times. lest the soul will always wait 2 hours for the south node to leave that house. "in the moms womb, ohhh the south node is just rising above the horizon, i don't want this to be my last life, i better wait 2 more hours to come out, even though the sun is in first and i really wanted to be a first hosue sun, the moon (1 billion times more weight than a south node and having a massive effect on what you will do in this life) is in the 7th and i really wanted to focus on partnerships (not that they would have these thoughts or wants but maybe) but since that south node is in 12th, i'll jsut wait for the sun to go to the 12th and the SN will be in the 11th. i find that much more suiting) IP: Logged |
MoonMystic
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posted February 10, 2017 02:58 PM
Lucia23, thank you for this. I certainly will read it after my replies here,  In my case it isn't my curiosity of whether I'm more evolved any more than another. I'm inquisitive over how much karma have I to clean up still, in thus current lifetime. This last Sag/Saturn return has been rather rough on me, sending me to question my collective karma. Or in laymens terms, when will Dad put down the paddle? My soul feels ripped from seem to seem, which I've read many others too have had rough circumstances as of late. I akways tried to be nice, good. Yet am aware I failed on so many occasions and when facing forks in the road, in retrospect-- I've taken many wrong turns. There is much to 'feel' in life, when times are harsh on a soul, it can make them wonder just how much more Karma must they clean to get closer to balance? IP: Logged |
Sulkyarcher
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posted February 10, 2017 03:05 PM
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Originally posted by soren:
pisceans are very complex compared to aries who are more simpler. however a pisces can still be innocent while having all these genious thoughts. and an aries can still be a bit wise even with their simple view on life. with that said i doubt there is anything. south node in 12th equal last incarnation? do we on average only have 12 incarnations? i thought we had thousands. the chances of getting your south node in the 12th house in those 1000 (at least, maybe more) incarnations is 83 times. less the soul will always wait 2 hours for the south node to leave that house. "in the moms womb, ohhh the south node is just rising above the horizon, i don't want this to be my last life, i better wait 2 more hours to come out, even though the sun is in first and i really wanted to be a first hosue sun, the moon (1 billion times more weight than a south node and having a massive effect on what you will do in this life) is in the 7th and i really wanted to focus on partnerships (not that they would have these thoughts or wants but maybe) but since that south node is in 12th, i'll jsut wait for the sun to go to the 12th and the SN will be in the 11th. i find that much more suiting)
Possibly hundreds of thousands. IP: Logged |
MoonMystic
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posted February 10, 2017 03:12 PM
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Originally posted by soren:
pisceans are very complex compared to aries who are more simpler. however a pisces can still be innocent while having all these genious thoughts. and an aries can still be a bit wise even with their simple view on life. with that said i doubt there is anything. south node in 12th equal last incarnation? do we on average only have 12 incarnations? i thought we had thousands. the chances of getting your south node in the 12th house in those 1000 (at least, maybe more) incarnations is 83 times. less the soul will always wait 2 hours for the south node to leave that house. "in the moms womb, ohhh the south node is just rising above the horizon, i don't want this to be my last life, i better wait 2 more hours to come out, even though the sun is in first and i really wanted to be a first hosue sun, the moon (1 billion times more weight than a south node and having a massive effect on what you will do in this life) is in the 7th and i really wanted to focus on partnerships (not that they would have these thoughts or wants but maybe) but since that south node is in 12th, i'll jsut wait for the sun to go to the 12th and the SN will be in the 11th. i find that much more suiting)
Soren, sorry for the quoting. My mind can derail at times.
You have more 'self' than 'other' chart this time? That's mine too. It isn't easy and yet I'm sure no chart pattern is.
The higher the house number for node might indicate something relating here? Mine is 10. Maybe I've hit rewind this round-oooops. Next time maybe it will be much further down the rung of the ladder. Not to go so far off but this makes me think if the Yoda archetype (pure wisdom), how many blunders he may have overcome, over the many years of his long life (ours are like his in parts -much like the cat with 9lives). Wisdom must carry a price. Pain in learning. Persevering through each lesson. Pass or fail, we carry on. Thanjs for your thoughtful reply, Soren IP: Logged |
MoonMystic
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posted February 10, 2017 03:16 PM
Sulkyarcher, were Lifetimes like the Monopoly game, we would have worn out that 'Go back to Go .,,' card.  IP: Logged |
soren
Knowflake Posts: 3200
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posted February 10, 2017 03:39 PM
i am yes a more "me" house though i didnt say that in my reply but you are right to say it as i have some first house things. (sun + sat+another body) IP: Logged |
Sulkyarcher
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posted February 10, 2017 04:11 PM
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Originally posted by MoonMystic:
Sulkyarcher, were Lifetimes like the Monopoly game, we would have worn out that 'Go back to Go .,,' card.
Hahaha! IP: Logged |
RhythmNProse
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posted February 11, 2017 02:13 AM
In Vedic astrology the south node represents the accumulation of experiences from our past lives that we bring into this incarnation, and ultimately liberation from the birth and death cycle. I usually look to a strong south node influence if I'm looking for someone who's bringing alot with them in this birth. Do you work with the nodes? IP: Logged |
Sylven
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Registered: Nov 2014
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posted February 11, 2017 04:25 AM
Very interesting topic. Hard, in my view, to pin point in earthy terms or to put this in to words. Incarnations here or elsewhere? There are voluntary souls here as well. Playful and young with a lot of wisdom. Where would you put those? Is there or would there be any rule to this? I don't think so. It's 3d thinking.
Aren't we better to undo ourselves of these shackles and labels to plug into the ONE vibration, all of us? To feel cosmic LUV and the eternal now. 
I have south node in 12th btw. North node in Pisces. To me it only means one part of my soul is working on something on this timeline.  I have found out I am healing with my energy just by connecting and am here to help earth etc. I have thrown out the thoughts and feelings of someone being higher or lower.
I AM.  And I love smilies!! IP: Logged |
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