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Topic: Strong Retrograde People
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TensionEmpire Knowflake Posts: 1166 From: Hamburg Registered: Sep 2014
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posted February 21, 2017 06:29 AM
So most of us have retrograde planets, and some have 3 or more, this I would alredy consider a strong retrograde orientaded chart.Me myself have all the outer planets retrograde, 4 in total. Are there others here with much retrograde energy? How do you feel in society? Do you feel, you can easely leave a mark on people? Do you feel, that if you think something, you know it will not happen that way? Or that it will not happen, because maybe it actually alredy happened? Or that everythink that you live is kind of boring? mixed with those uber flashes of explendour? IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 145599 From: Your Friendly Neighborhood Juris Doctorate. Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 22, 2017 03:27 PM
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posted February 22, 2017 04:38 PM
My father had six retrogarde planets, seven if you include Chiron.He was extremely introverted and sometimes overthinks things! IP: Logged |
lalalinda Moderator Posts: 5231 From: nevada Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 22, 2017 06:57 PM
I have 5 planets RxMercury Jupiter, my chart ruler Uranus Neptune Pluto With Rx planets there is a lot of subconscious activity going on. Personally when Uranus is activated I pull information from who knows where, it's all subconscious and pretty spot on. No, normally I'm not intuitive like that (water trait) I'm more learned. ------------------ A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step...Lao Tzu IP: Logged |
appleberry Moderator Posts: 2987 From: Venusian Registered: Jun 2011
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posted February 22, 2017 08:19 PM
Nice post.I have everything from the 12th house to the 3rd Rx, including every asteroid I've checked so far. This includes Pluto, Uranus and Neptune. Introverted in public but not so much one on one or with people I'm familiar with. All the energy of the first quadrant is focussed inward so most people assume I don't have self esteem because I'm happier out of the spotlight. Constant perfectionism, self-analysis and observation. Lots of subconscious activity and there's a kind of sentitivity but it's not completely with this quadrant's energy. IP: Logged |
TensionEmpire Knowflake Posts: 1166 From: Hamburg Registered: Sep 2014
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posted February 25, 2017 03:15 PM
I started to reed a book about this.The book starts warning you, to read it, but not to get too much into it, so you don`t loose yourself in the vortex. haha So yes it seems that Retrograde energy, is pretty different then direct energy. the book also says that trough this retrograde energy is where a lot of karma is cleansed. That it has a lot to do with regaining the harmony. It talks about 3 phases. Has anyoneelse heard about this phases? It seems that we imagine and dream a lot, than when we actually live it, it is as if we alredy lived it, so afterwards we get more in a melancholic state remembering the stuff from the past. IP: Logged |
TensionEmpire Knowflake Posts: 1166 From: Hamburg Registered: Sep 2014
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posted February 25, 2017 09:43 PM
i am like thinking that retrograte plantes are like the antimatter.IP: Logged |
lalalinda Moderator Posts: 5231 From: nevada Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 26, 2017 01:55 PM
Hi, what is the name of the book?------------------ A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step...Lao Tzu IP: Logged |
SDragon Moderator Posts: 818 From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Registered: Sep 2012
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posted February 26, 2017 06:01 PM
Here's an excerpt from Martin Schulman's Karmic Astrology : Retrogrades and Reincarnation."The general tendency is for the individual to try to use his Retrogrades in exactly the same manner as he is using his planets which are in direct motion. And when this doesn't work he starts dividing himself into various unrelated states which can result in general misery. With planets in direct motion it is very easy for the individual to switch the emphasis of the planetary energy within himself from moment to moment as his own total energy pattern rises and falls. However, when he tries to do this with his Retrograde planets he runs into quite a different situation. Firstly, he is at any given time going through part of a threefold Retrograde Process. He is: 1. Jumping ahead of himself trying to live the future now. 2. In the process of living out the future, experiencing the feelings that he has already been there. 3. Repeating in mind the first phase, so that he is actually reliving the looking forward to a future that has already occurred." It's somewhat difficult to understand and if anyone can convert it to layman's terms it might help. I'm not sure it's the same 3 phases that TensionEmpire is talking about.
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TensionEmpire Knowflake Posts: 1166 From: Hamburg Registered: Sep 2014
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posted February 26, 2017 06:14 PM
haha SDragon, those are the words I was reading a couple of days ago.IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 145599 From: Your Friendly Neighborhood Juris Doctorate. Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 26, 2017 06:49 PM
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girlwiththerainysoul Knowflake Posts: 2549 From: Registered: Jul 2016
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posted February 27, 2017 01:29 AM
quote: Originally posted by SDragon: he is at any given time going through part of a threefold Retrograde Process. He is:1. Jumping ahead of himself trying to live the future now. 2. In the process of living out the future, experiencing the feelings that he has already been there. 3. Repeating in mind the first phase, so that he is actually reliving the looking forward to a future that has already occurred."
wow thanks a lot for sharing this! it's so true! I have 3 Rx planets, uranus, neptune and pluto, all three closely aspecting my sun, mars and moon. I'm not sure I if I ever find myself trying to live the future, but I sure experience the feeling of already having been there a lot! I often see people with RX planets try a lot less in the material world than others. perhaps due to the sense of already having experienced things in their psyches, when that planets motions forward and then moves back, reserves some of the future energy in itself, so the person already has some strong sense of what the future exactly is like, so they just accept and stop trying. I suppose personal retro planets (mars, venus, mercury) would be more challenging than outer planets. IP: Logged |
TensionEmpire Knowflake Posts: 1166 From: Hamburg Registered: Sep 2014
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posted February 27, 2017 05:42 AM
Yeah, I never thought about that, the planets realy come back from the future, turning retrograde.yeah I think personal are more difficult also. But don`t the planet gets retro when it opposes the sun? Is it possible to have many personal planets retro? IP: Logged |
Rosalind Knowflake Posts: 4209 From: Registered: Mar 2011
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posted February 27, 2017 02:50 PM
6 Retro planets here.Awkward. I dont know, people are at extreme points with me. They either like me very much or dislike me. For no reason, btw. Usually, what I think comes true. 99% of the time I am right. Maybe, dunno. My life is boring. Nah, dont have that yet. IP: Logged |
Lerena Knowflake Posts: 1393 From: Registered: May 2015
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posted February 27, 2017 06:38 PM
My Retrograde planets are Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto, but in my progressed chart, Saturn is also Retrograde.How do you feel in society? I feel misunderstood due to experiences that aren't common for the majority. This results in me going through stuff in silence, because there aren't enough people that know what I'm talking about. There seems to also be a constant feeling of me not belonging in society. Some of my isolation is my own fault, but I am going to move into society at my own pace. It is my responsibility to fix my problems, and at this point, I've become used to people being unable to help me cope with personal issues. Still, without help from people, my problems are going to take a while to fix. To compensate for my present situation, I plan on never going into retirement, which may or may not be forced upon me by later life circumstances. Do you feel, you can easily leave a mark on people? I am memorable for reasons I do not know, but otherwise, I'm not much of an influence on people. This may someday change, but I don't generally feel like I leave a mark easily. Do you feel, that if you think something, you know it will not happen that way? Depends. I tend to think that my thoughts are fantasies or just random possibilities that could happen but probably won't. However, this may be unfair, because my intuition is spot-on a lot and not everything is going to happen logically. To be honest, as logical as I am, I do like when things aren't always logical. It spices things up a bit. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 145599 From: Your Friendly Neighborhood Juris Doctorate. Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 02, 2017 10:37 PM
quote: Originally posted by lalalinda: I have 5 planets RxMercury Jupiter, my chart ruler Uranus Neptune Pluto With Rx planets there is a lot of subconscious activity going on. Personally when Uranus is activated I pull information from who knows where, it's all subconscious and pretty spot on. No, normally I'm not intuitive like that (water trait) I'm more learned.
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TensionEmpire Knowflake Posts: 1166 From: Hamburg Registered: Sep 2014
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posted March 04, 2017 06:27 AM
boring life was maybe not a good definition, I believe to have a boring life is quite difficult, and is most of the part up to you.More of a feeling of, ohh here I am again, ok, if it is nessesary, and for the will of good, let us start again. Leaving a mark in people, if I can remember correct what I read, is like that your energy enters and stays with other people easely. maybe because of magnetism? Sometimes people won`t feel comfortable beside you, because you are in that different vibe, and this different energy, disturbs people around you. IP: Logged |
BeTrue77 Knowflake Posts: 36 From: USA Registered: Jul 2014
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posted March 05, 2017 09:13 PM
I have five planets retrograde: Mercury, Jupiter, Neptune, Uranus, and Pluto.I can identify with what others have described above. I also identify with descriptions of an "old Soul" (although I do not deem any particular soul age as being superior to any other, the concept of being an Old Soul has helped me to better accept myself as someone who "marches to the beat of a different drum.") I am extremely introverted (INTP), highly autonomous and nonconformist, very philosophical and rather intense, more of a thinker than a doer. I definitely feel out-of-place living and working in DC amongst mostly ambitious, conformist, superficial types. Most of my close friends live elsewhere. But life became much easier once I ceased trying to conform, and learned to appreciate my eccentricities -- around age 40. Yes, it is true that I seem to have a strange effect on people and groups. I have gone through cycles of being oddly popular (for no apparent reason) and then other cycles of feeling a bit like a pariah (for no apparent reason) -- all of which have taught me to be very self-reliant and not to depend on external approval. My external life would certainly appear boring to most people, but my internal life feels very rich and meaningful. My favorite "activities" are studying, contemplating and practicing Eastern philosophy and attending meditation retreats. I should probably add that, in addition to having five retrograde planets, I also have Sun conjunct Saturn, Moon opposite Neptune, a six-planet stellium in the 10th house (Sun, Moon, Mars, Venus, Mercury, Saturn), and north node in Pisces, so, the way I see it, I never really stood a chance at leading a conventional life, ha ha. IP: Logged |
TensionEmpire Knowflake Posts: 1166 From: Hamburg Registered: Sep 2014
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posted March 07, 2017 01:58 PM
How did that 10th house stellium work out in your life, you said your more of a thinker than a doer. But 10th house has a lot to do with doing also, and public, I also have the sun and mercury in the 10thIP: Logged |
TensionEmpire Knowflake Posts: 1166 From: Hamburg Registered: Sep 2014
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posted March 07, 2017 02:09 PM
How did that 10th house stellium work out in your life, you said your more of a thinker than a doer. But 10th house has a lot to do with doing also, and public, I also have the sun and mercury in the 10thIP: Logged |
BeTrue77 Knowflake Posts: 36 From: USA Registered: Jul 2014
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posted March 07, 2017 06:48 PM
Hi TensionEmpire,Yes, my career has been a major focus in my life, as I work as a government attorney in DC. However, I actually feel rather conflicted about that and wish that my life had more balance (which might be attributed to Saturn being part of my 10th house stellium). I am single (divorced after brief marriage), no kids, a few close friends, but a lot of my social life revolves around work these days. My life is mostly divided between work and spiritual pursuits: Saturn and Neptune being prominent in my chart. Over time, I have learned to accept, and even appreciate that that is just who I am. Despite the prominent place of career in my life, my heart is really on my philosophical/spiritual pursuits. Obviously, that is shown by Moon opposite Neptune and NN in Pisces/8th house, but I believe that my prominent Saturn/10th house aids that side of me as well because there has been a serious intellectual and existential need to discover "the meaning of life" from a very young age, facilitated by depression and disillusionment with conventional answers to such questions. Also, I have had to address and resolve a lot of karma in this lifetime, which I think can also be associated with Saturn/10th House. Thanks for asking! Do you believe that your own 10th House planets have served you well in life? IP: Logged |
TensionEmpire Knowflake Posts: 1166 From: Hamburg Registered: Sep 2014
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posted March 07, 2017 07:34 PM
Do you feel satisfied with what you accomplished?I am nearing the Mars phase of life, I am 25, and am getting more active at working, let`s see. I feel that I want to accomplish something in life, like something that I can look at and be proud for. They are in Cancer, I realy like to look at children, and I can facinate them easely also
If they have served me well? Mercury in the 10th, I remember once, in school, running the hole brake from like 5 older guys, in the end they cornered me, but I automatically started to discurse, and they said nothing, I believe also because I got emotionall haha But maybe this is a quallity on Mercury in the 10th, say something with inpact But in general I don`t speack to people much, I have spend many hours alone, maybe this has changed me The Sun in the 10th, I am proud of having it cnj. my MC but realy do something with it i have not accomplished yet, i get the attention, it is something that is always there that can cheer me up.
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 145599 From: Your Friendly Neighborhood Juris Doctorate. Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 10, 2017 02:37 PM
I have quite a few. IP: Logged |
TensionEmpire Knowflake Posts: 1166 From: Hamburg Registered: Sep 2014
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posted March 10, 2017 05:20 PM
So what you feel guys? do you feel that the energy of the planet comes in another form, that you have to learn to deal with it in another way than you deal with your normal planets? (like it is written in the book)Like I don`t deal with planets, but maybe there is someone here that dose IP: Logged |
Kannon McAfee Knowflake Posts: 4720 From: Portland, OR - USA Registered: Oct 2011
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posted March 10, 2017 07:12 PM
My natal chart has Jupiter, Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto Rx.Retrograde motion of a planet urges us to revisit our own personal perceptions or previous internalizations of that planets' energies. For example, Pluto is in Rx motion about half the time and it is appropriate that this be internalized more in our process of understanding empowerment since empowerment is an inside job. It is best to understand the energies of planets individually first before trying to understand retrograde in a generalized way. I say that, TensionEmpire, because the questions you posted while part of your learning process, lack relevance in understanding retrograde planet interpretation. First, take the planet and understand its energy dynamics. Then adjust interpretation in your chart based on whether the planet is Rx, which is in internalizing process of it in which a person could be considered more thorough in revisiting their own perception and patterns of it. The difference is subtle. Don't fall into the either/or is/isn't assumption of a wide chasm of difference between a planet in Direct motion vs Rx. Rx does not change the planets' fundamental energy, just how a person perceives or processes it. It need not be any kind of hindrance to full life experience. ------------------ The Declinations Guy Rising Sign Descriptions Energy Healing by request IP: Logged | |