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MilaBirkin
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posted February 24, 2017 08:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MilaBirkin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not a fan but I like to watch One Direction's videos and I noticed he talks so slow. I talk slow like him, so it caught my attention. There even videos of him called "Harry Styles Talking At Normal Speed".
Mercury is the way we talk, right? His Mercury conj. my Mercury but I have Mercury in Aquarius and I don't know about him, because it depends on his time of birth, he could have Mercury in Pisces or in Aquarius. Do you think that's the reason? I'm Pisces and my dominant sign is Aquarius but I don't know. Why we talk sooo slow? It seems we don't want to talk, at all. We also have Mercury square Pluto but no, Aquarius and Pluto? That sign and planet are not like this?
I don't see him as a Libra rising. He is charming yes but he has Libra Moon and Sun conjunct Venus. He seems so calm and, very slow, haha and I have a brother and my brother has Libra Moon-Venus-Mars and he is not slow at all. Also, if Harry has Ascendant in Libra then he has all those planets in Aquarius in 4th house and honestly, I don't see him like the "cancerian type". I can be wrong but there were another time of birth and with that tob he has Ascendant in Gemini but he'd have all those planets in Aquarius in 10th house and Moon in 5th house, that make more sense to me (not the Gemini rising).

This is his natal chart (with libra rising):





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posted February 24, 2017 08:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MarsSaturnDelight     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He looks like an aqua ascendant. That would put his sun in his first house which makes sense with the leonine vibe.

I would bet my yatch on it, if I had one.

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posted February 24, 2017 09:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Leo-Cancer98     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He has the same ovate face shape as my nephew who's a Libra Rising, sooo ... I'm going with Libra ASC indeed. Can't say I don't see a Piscean vibe though

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MilaBirkin
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posted February 24, 2017 07:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MilaBirkin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MarsSaturnDelight:
He looks like an aqua ascendant. That would put his sun in his first house which makes sense with the leonine vibe.

I would bet my yatch on it, if I had one.


yeah, I think he looks like an aqua.
It makes more sense to me. Really.

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MilaBirkin
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posted February 24, 2017 07:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MilaBirkin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Leo-Cancer98:
He has the same ovate face shape as my nephew who's a Libra Rising, sooo ... I'm going with Libra ASC indeed. Can't say I don't see a Piscean vibe though

Well, nobody can doubt he has Venus traits: Moon in Libra, Sun conjunct Venus, Moon trine Venus...
But if he has Ascendant in Libra he has Sun, Mercury, Venus, Saturn in 4th house and Moon in 12th house and I don't see him like that. If you know what I mean.

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posted February 24, 2017 08:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Empty Spaces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My sister is aqua rising.I don't think they have anything in common to be honest.

Btw Harry is soo cute.I love his weirdness ❤

Moon in 5th makes perfect sense.He is a huge defensor of animals.He put his heart on art and he loves children

Plus Harry isn't self centered as a 1st house sun can be.He's very selfless.That's cutest thing about him,in my opinion. I'm looking like a fan lol I don't like his music or 1D but I love his persona.

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posted February 24, 2017 10:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MilaBirkin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Empty Spaces:
My sister is aqua rising.I don't think they have anything in common to be honest.

Btw Harry is soo cute.I love his weirdness ❤

Moon in 5th makes perfect sense.He is a huge defensor of animals.He put his heart on art and he loves children

Plus Harry isn't self centered as a 1st house sun can be.He's very selfless.That's cutest thing about him,in my opinion. I'm looking like a fan lol I don't like his music or 1D but I love his persona.


Lol, I understand you: his Sun-Venus conj. my Venus-MC-Eros, opp. my Mars and sextile my Jupiter. So yeah, I understand .
Because of he is so slow and calm, I wouldn't be surprised if he has Ascendant in Taurus.

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posted February 26, 2017 07:56 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i always thought astrotheme had his true time.

but i checked and it said "original source not known" so they dont have an official time.

anyways i did a bit of comparing with pictures, aqua sun's in all the houses, and he really seemed more like a water house. finally i decided that yeah i'm pretty sure he is a 4th house sun. might be wrong though. i would show you pics but it's too much of a thing.

but good call on noticing the time is not official.

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posted February 26, 2017 07:57 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
the way he is showing off his chest in the pajama pic shows cancer. i noticed this before for cancer or 4th, that they have a connection to their chest, they like to show it off. they feel connected to it.

i'm a first house sun. when i show off my chest, it's to look strong. but i dont get any kind of stimulation by having my chest stick out a bit. lol but i think he does, which is a cancer thing (4th)

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posted February 27, 2017 12:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MilaBirkin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by soren:
the way he is showing off his chest in the pajama pic shows cancer. i noticed this before for cancer or 4th, that they have a connection to their chest, they like to show it off. they feel connected to it.

i'm a first house sun. when i show off my chest, it's to look strong. but i dont get any kind of stimulation by having my chest stick out a bit. lol but i think he does, which is a cancer thing (4th)


I get surprised by the way you write. Idk, I find it different than others in this forum, lol.

You are very sure about the Sun in 4th house? Don't you think he probably could have Ascendant in Cancer?

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posted February 27, 2017 12:34 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thanks. i find your writing very innocent

actually this crossed my mind an hour ago, when i came here to compare to the thread above rising, i saw his asc is late libra (according to the unknkown source). he might be a scorp riser, the rising wasn't important to me, i just found the likely sun house.

he might be a scorp riser >

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posted February 27, 2017 12:35 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i didnt want to shoot down or make you feel bad for bringing it up though. you are 100% right that the time is not sure. so it's good to guess. no one knows for sure.

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posted February 27, 2017 12:43 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i have a theory that the asc is not the eclpitic "node" crosses the horizon. i dont think that little spot would be very significant. though apparently the MH (sun daily path's highest curve) is very very noticeable.. in the pics i had..

so maybe the little node is that significant...

if you do synastry comparisons, when someone's planet conjuncts your north or south node (similar to the eclpitic node) it is not very strong. it is definitely noticeable, but it doesnt phaze or effect you like staring at a person with their venus conjunct your saturn. or a row of them ( i use multiple rows)

so i dont believe a node can be as powerful as the rising is.

i think it's the cutting of the horizon into you, is so profound, that it is the horizon that falls in a sign.

if that is so, then, i might be wrong, i'd have to test many cusp risings, but perhaps if you were nearby a cusp, half your rising would be in one sign, half in the other.

the whole big rising edge

:------:

there

might be wrong. so he might be a bit libra and scorp.

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posted February 27, 2017 12:51 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
here, look. the top are libra risers, pretty sure their times were right. you can tell. the bottom 2 rows are all scorp risers.

harry seems not as cold/harsh as the libra risers. they dont seem soft. yet he's a bit more exciting/social than the scorpio risings.
i think i may be onto something when i say, it's not the node. (not that anyone thought it was)

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posted February 27, 2017 12:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for girlwiththerainysoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
he's goofness overload lol, so very jupiter in the 1st

but I get cardinal, so the libra AC is more probable for me than the scorpio AC

girliness, sun in the 4th, added to the sun/venus conjunction

in the red suit he looks a lot like kendall jenner (an aries AC) like wt..!

opposite signs of the AC can look very similar, difference being in the manners (element).

my mom says she thinks beyonce and shakira look exactly the same! (one is Aries AC and the other libra)..I personally don't get any similarity between those two though, but she's sun/uranus/mercury/pluto conjunct in virgo! is pretty great in attention to subtle things

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posted March 01, 2017 07:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hemilla     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He is way too fasshion and style oriented not to be a llibra - he's libra

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posted March 01, 2017 08:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hemilla     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Libra asc - and his aqua sun shows his style better - rock and roll - in 4th house '50- '60s (history,old reps 4th house)

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MilaBirkin
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posted June 10, 2018 03:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MilaBirkin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the replies! 💞

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posted June 10, 2018 06:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Saturn on Mercury- thorough thinker. Slow speaker

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posted June 10, 2018 01:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MilaBirkin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Saturn on Mercury- thorough thinker. Slow speaker

Thanks for your reply.
I'm like that but I don't have Saturn/Mercury .

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posted June 10, 2018 01:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for capricorncheriscty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He is probably a Libra ASC, I do not see Gemini in him at all. His voice is also too mellow for a Gemini. His former bandmate Louis Tomlinson is a Gemini ASC and has the very typical features and personality of an annoying Gemini (I should know, I'm a Gem ASC). Harry looks and acts very much like a Libra moon and ASC person. I see a little Taurus in him sometimes but probably because Libra and Taurus are both Venusian. I would trust this Libra ASC birth time.

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posted June 10, 2018 02:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MilaBirkin:
Thanks for your reply.
I'm like that but I don't have Saturn/Mercury .

I see "slowness" in speech with Mo/Mer/ Mars mostly either in Cap,Tau or in aspect to Saturn.

Is your Saturn in 3rd?Mars/Merc in Tau? Sat on Mars?

My father speaks slowly. His Mer conj Ura in Leo. But he also has Saturn conjunct Moon,Saturn trine Mars.

Tau, Cap and Sat slow things down.

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posted June 10, 2018 03:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MilaBirkin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by capricorncheriscty:
He is probably a Libra ASC, I do not see Gemini in him at all. His voice is also too mellow for a Gemini. His former bandmate Louis Tomlinson is a Gemini ASC and has the very typical features and personality of an annoying Gemini (I should know, I'm a Gem ASC). Harry looks and acts very much like a Libra moon and ASC person. I see a little Taurus in him sometimes but probably because Libra and Taurus are both Venusian. I would trust this Libra ASC birth time.

Thanks for the reply! Yes, maybe it is like that. But my doubts aren't really about the Ascendant, I'm thinking about the houses ... I can't see him as Sun in 4H and Moon in 12H. I can be wrong though but still... I don't know.

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posted June 10, 2018 03:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MilaBirkin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
I see "slowness" in speech with Mo/Mer/ Mars mostly either in Cap,Tau or in aspect to Saturn.

Is your Saturn in 3rd?Mars/Merc in Tau? Sat on Mars?

My father speaks slowly. His Mer conj Ura in Leo. But he also has Saturn conjunct Moon,Saturn trine Mars.

Tau, Cap and Sat slow things down.


No, I have Mercury in 10th house in Aquarius square Pluto. I only have Moon in 3rd house.

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posted June 10, 2018 03:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey there fellow Moon in 3rd.

Your "slowness" is not so much "slowness" but caution. You are always on the lookout for the right word to attach to the sentence in order to convey the right feeling.

For moon in 3rd, its about talking about how you feel. So this caution is applied to not misrepresent oneself or be misunderstood by others.

That Pluto square Mercury also recognizes the power of words and how they can build or destroy. So it dissects words said by others and presumes others do the same with what they say.

My father is a slow talker. But he is very harsh(Uranus/Mercury conj). He is also not very careful to build with words, he can destroy because his words are extremely fatalistic i.e " You will never amount to anything of value" or "education is lost on your lot" etc.

I think with Saturn, there is a cold cynical approach to talking that colours everything (esp when Sat is on Moon/Mer/Mars).

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