posted February 26, 2017 09:55 PM            

however, i do have an experience with a friend, always dismissing my thoughts and saying i'm crazy. meanwhile i know i'm right.

i dont hang around him.

posted February 26, 2017 10:00 PM            

the connections from astro are much more intertwined than what entanglement suggests. i know we are intertwined to the whole entire universe. that's what makes this realm special, everything is connected, if there were a bit of aparthood, this wouldnt be "one".

posted February 27, 2017 01:37 AM            

If you can't tell me what your Sun Moon and Ascendant are in astrology, that's the equivalent of not knowing who God Jesus and Mary are when speaking of Christianity. If you don't know then perhaps you shouldn't be speaking about it because you are only promoting the facts that (1) you are easily brainwashed to speak boldly and negatively about things you have never studied nor seem to have even tried to figure out, and (2) you show no respect for things that give people divine comfort in life, which is the equivalent of having no respect for others...

People usually back down when you speak like that because they really have shown their lack of both intelligence and lack of awareness of how easily brainwashed they are. You do have to adjust the commentary based on who you are speaking to though.

posted February 27, 2017 11:46 AM            

Our self-worth does not depend on everyone thinking well of us, or admiring us.

You could simply say something like, "I've found it very helpful in understanding myself and others, and I prefer to keep my mind open."

posted February 27, 2017 12:32 PM            

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
You don't have to say anything to them. Their derision is theirs and can simply be left for them to deal with.

Our self-worth does not depend on everyone thinking well of us, or admiring us.

You could simply say something like, "I've found it very helpful in understanding myself and others, and I prefer to keep my mind open."

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posted February 28, 2017 08:01 AM            

I'm the kind of person who is drawn to ANYTHING other-worldly. I love to watch Conspiracy Theory videos and can ALWAYS find a possibility for some kind of spiritual/crazy spin on a story. I have a vivid and intense imagination. So, I own that without forcing or expecting others to go along with it. I tend to bring it all up as if I'm telling a ghost story around the camp fire.

IME, if people are VEHEMENTLY against it, there's something deep in them causing that. They usually just get squeamish about the subject of spirituality on the whole. Or, on the flip side, they're devout in some religion and find astrology "sinful". In those cases, obviously I avoid talking about it with them because it's not like I have to push my views on everyone and make them uncomfortable, right? Not saving lives.

posted April 06, 2017 02:11 AM            

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Originally posted by MilaBirkin:
People say astrology is b#llsh#t because they only know about horoscopes and their sun.

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A logical non-aggressive response is:

Do you agree that we get energy from the Sun and that sunlight helps with depression?
Do you agree that we get vitamins and nutrients from the Sun?

Well now is it far fetch to imagine that we are affected physically and emotionally by the other planets.

To take it a step further astrology is simply a belief system that believes that we are affected physically and emotionally by the other planets in present, future times and at the direct moment/location/time of our birth. We use zodiac signs as representations of the different planets energy.

Now you may think that astrology is bs. But just remember it's an accepted fact that we are affected physically and emotionally by the Sun. Apply that to the other planets.

This method is not that foolproof but it should make someone think.

posted April 06, 2017 05:48 AM            

So, when someone clearly isn't into it, I simply don't talk about it with them. Not a big deal. Just like I wouldn't expect my Muslim friends to be all that into me spouting off Biblical passages, expecting them to contribute. Sure, I'll mention something that caught my interest, but I'm not going to be offended if they don't go into the topic deeply with me or don't study/believe in it.

posted April 06, 2017 05:54 AM            

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Originally posted by MilaBirkin:
Thanks for your replies!

I wanted to know because I was watching a video on youtube about a guy making fun of other people's beliefs and one of those "beliefs" was astrology and he was talking like he was the only person in this world who can be right. When he talked about "astrology" he actually was talking about those stupid horoscopes.

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actually richard dawkins, "proved" astrology false and is a bunch of placebo effects. then later on i proved it was real.

posted April 06, 2017 11:22 AM            

It helps people to think outside the box because there is worse in this world besides someone who studies astrology like astrology compared to someone who has a hobby as being a stalker or serial killer, child molester etc.

The best thing, at least you have the advantage of knowing this before other people and not ending up in a statistics somewhere vs others who seeming mock you who one day very well may run into it. Yep, I'll take my weird, I'm good!

posted April 06, 2017 02:11 PM            

There is no reason to cause animosity, but it is important to remind people that they don't understand it so they shouldn't judge it. But most of all, it is important that people not be allowed to continue to downgrade something that identifies others as different. Because in the end, that will lead people to believe that it is OK to oppress the followers of that culture and spirituality.

This has happened so many times in the past, and that what is happening now with many cultures and spiritualities. They say that even the Salem witch hunt was condemning people like us--wise women and men who practise esoteric arts (even the real meaning of the word witch is "wise woman". So, we shouldn't be apathetic or afraid to confront people--the world is becoming very volatile towards those who are different and our culture could cause us to be the next victims if we don't fight the mindset that oppresses us.

If you don't fight to keep this culture and spirituality positive in people's minds, and prevent them from being brainwashed by other people who would like to oppress this spirituality and culture, then that apathy will allow people permission to oppresss and attack.

You need to make an effort to demand respect for your culture and spirituality. You need to protect yourself when the problem is small--in the moment when protection works because the problem has not yet grown to insurmountable size. You need to fight when the negativity against you will not yet be insurmountable, and the negative mindset too deeply ingrained to change quickly enough before the worst case scenario revels itself.

It is very important to politely contest those who oppose astrology or anything related. We are not facing persecution at the moment, we feel safe. But, because we are different, and because we have beliefs that threaten the beliefs of others, the tide could easily change and we could be scrambling for safety.

Imagine if Trump found a reason to condemn us? Because we threatened his position or profit. He could easily sway his followers minds to turn against us and attack just as he has caused them to do to other cultures and spiritualities at the moment. People are dying for the things they are and the things they practice; that could be us.

We could not hide if they turned against us because we practise online--this makes hiding even impossible because you can be traced and online is forever. The only defender is prevention of the possibility of people going in that direction--the direction that makes them feel entitled to obliterate what opposes them.

You must fortify your security by planting seeds in people's minds that this is a good and healthy culture, that is is not sinful or satanic (or whatever they've been brainwashed to believe), and that it doesn't oppose anyone else's beliefs or way of life. We have an obligation to spread a good reputation for this culture.

If you are New Age, it is your duty to respond to those who seek enlightenment about this culture and spirituality. A challenge or condemnation is a form of seeking enlightenment, so you cannot walk away. You must educate them. It could easily be that their destiny has brought them to you to find guidance and entry into this culture and spirituality, so your karmic duty is to provide the guidance they seek.

Maybe it is just a hobby for some but your digital imprint reveals that you practise this culture and spirituality. For that reason, your obligation to protect yourself from future harm is just as important.

posted April 06, 2017 02:20 PM            

I apologize for using idioms but its similar to the saying "You and the Crowd".

You can care what the crowd says and you might get trampled by the crowd if you follow them, be influenced by them and care what they say.

Or be ahead of the crowd by seeing something that the crowd and everyone else missed.

It happens every time when a group of fouls(crowd) elects the wrong politicians and then other fools get influenced by them
But you know better.

The same concept applies to people that want to make astrology invalid. Do you want or care what those fools think? or do you want to take advantage of a tool there neglecting?.

posted April 06, 2017 03:24 PM            

if you notice around the world, russia was only getting competetive because they were worried US was gonna bomb them.

North Korea says they aren't going to attack anyone definitely not, but in case THEY are attacked, they want the weapons to defend themselves.

people were banned from america because supposedly they were in fear of those people. the only thing people are doing is trying to defend themselves.

no one would attack astrologers, unless they somehow started threatening to hurt thousands

posted April 06, 2017 04:36 PM            

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Originally posted by MilaBirkin:
Thanks for your replies!

I wanted to know because I was watching a video on youtube about a guy making fun of other people's beliefs and one of those "beliefs" was astrology and he was talking like he was the only person in this world who can be right. When he talked about "astrology" he actually was talking about those stupid horoscopes.

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LOL, technically he is right in one sense , it would be bad to look at the horoscope of a sign to predict your life and daily interactions. What you can laugh at is that he is not educated enough in astrology to understand those are just the outside events for a particular sign but if you take those and put them to your own personal natal chart you might get a more accurate idea of the energy that is coming and going in your life. SOOO in all that he knows that is right is sooo wrong.

posted April 06, 2017 04:47 PM            

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
You don't have to say anything to them. Their derision is theirs and can simply be left for them to deal with.

Our self-worth does not depend on everyone thinking well of us, or admiring us.

You could simply say something like, "I've found it very helpful in understanding myself and others, and I prefer to keep my mind open."

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Agree.

And, always remember... that people want to be 'right.' (I remember some I met in bookstores in the astrology section. They 'think' that by knowing a little, that they comprehend the 'whole' thing. But! That's Okay.... Let them HAVE that.)

I have found that with some people you interact with, it will stick in their head, that YOU know astrology. When they see you, they won't be able to help themselves from thinking about it. It's 'unusual' to meet a person who really knows some real astrology.

Every once in a while, (like if you're at work, etc, and you can), you can play a bit by saying an aspect out loud (for example) when a news item hits the public conversations around you. You can say, Yep, Mars in ~Aries!, etc. (Whatever is appropriate.)

They might not say anything, but you just planted a seed for their curiosity at some later date.

What you're doing, in a broad way, falls under the realms of evangelism, or learning to become aware and use 'natural sales techniques' that you may have laying dormant inside yourself.

Take some kind of sales marketing workshop or seminar. It will do double-duty for you. While you are learning 'business' tips for interacting with people, you could also learn skills that apply later to advancing any astrology professional interests. (Take toastmaster's courses, public speaking.)

Of course, the BEST thing you can always do is become better and better at astrology itself. When you're good at it, it will increase natural confidence, which other people can pick up on subliminally. It will add an unspoken validity (authority) to your presence, and to the things you actually say.

So... I'd say, try not to get into arguments and feuds. Win them over by remaining positive and non-threatening. Observe them instead, and notice what they do and say. (Pick your battles, too! People will always remember. You want to develop a 'good reputation'.... This will follow you, and if you want later on, turn into solid business customers for yourself. LOL)

But I have understood how that could feel for you.