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Topic: Magi Astrology Question
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TheTruthIsTheWay11 Knowflake Posts: 202 From: Registered: Jul 2014
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posted March 19, 2017 08:15 PM
Magi Astrology can be a bit difficult to understand at times, so I'm hoping that someone with a greater understanding of Magi can help clarify this for me. I see that Cinderella Transits can be from Transiting Chiron to Natal Venus, Neptune, or Jupiter. Or, it could alternatively be from Transiting Venus, Neptune, or Jupiter to Natal Chiron. They have made this clear from the articles posted online. However, what about Nuclear and Heartbreak transits? From all of the articles I've seen, it's always from Transiting Saturn to Natal Chiron or Natal Jupiter. Does that mean that Transiting Chiron and Transiting Jupiter can't create Heartbreak or Nuclear Transits (respectively)? Thanks in advance!!
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 122726 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 20, 2017 10:49 AM
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TheTruthIsTheWay11 Knowflake Posts: 202 From: Registered: Jul 2014
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posted March 20, 2017 06:46 PM
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mir Knowflake Posts: 2837 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted March 21, 2017 11:24 PM
NO, indeed it's only from transit Saturn to Chiron and Jupiter (nucleair / heartbreak).Transit chiron square to natal Saturn is also a very significant period, you might even marry with the right person or lose a partner as that's simply not a fit; the non fitting ones will leave your life but that's only a pre isn't it ;d (although it might hurt yea ofcourse). IP: Logged |
TheTruthIsTheWay11 Knowflake Posts: 202 From: Registered: Jul 2014
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posted March 23, 2017 12:41 AM
quote: Originally posted by mir: NO, indeed it's only from transit Saturn to Chiron and Jupiter (nucleair / heartbreak).Transit chiron square to natal Saturn is also a very significant period, you might even marry with the right person or lose a partner as that's simply not a fit; the non fitting ones will leave your life but that's only a pre isn't it ;d (although it might hurt yea ofcourse).
Thanks so much for your reply! In which case, I'm in luck. I had a Soulmate encounter last month (which I might post about in-detail on the forum at some point). Western Astrology provides plentiful amounts of evidence to support it. Magi Astrology does too (we met under Cinderella Transits, without any Nuclear/Heartbreak transits, and we have 4 strong Romantic Super Linkages, with few negative Magi aspects -- No Nuclear or Heartbreak clashes). Numerologically, we have compatible Life Path numbers. AND, I had two dreams about her (one two years ago, one Wednesday morning, to confirm the encounter). A very exciting time indeed!!! I'm sure everyone reading this reply is dying to know what's in our charts. I have it all written out, but I'm waiting until the two of us are "officially" together, to make the post. IP: Logged |
girlwiththerainysoul Knowflake Posts: 2412 From: Into the wormhole on Saturn's ring Registered: Jul 2016
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posted March 23, 2017 07:53 AM
question @mir and TheTruthso, these cindrella transits, are they only the trines, sextiles (smooth aspects) or do hard aspects (square, conjunct, opposite) count too? and what if contradicting transits happen simultaneously? for instance the transiting chiron is trining the natal jupiter and at the same time squaring natal venus?! IP: Logged |
TheTruthIsTheWay11 Knowflake Posts: 202 From: Registered: Jul 2014
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posted March 23, 2017 01:36 PM
quote: Originally posted by girlwiththerainysoul: question @mir and TheTruthso, these cindrella transits, are they only the trines, sextiles (smooth aspects) or do hard aspects (square, conjunct, opposite) count too? and what if contradicting transits happen simultaneously? for instance the transiting chiron is trining the natal jupiter and at the same time squaring natal venus?!
There are specific aspects which count as a Cinderella Transit. It must make what Magi calls a "Magical Angle", which is defined as: "Two planets which form a Trine, Conjunction or Parallel. A Quincunx, Contra-Parallel or Contra-Latitude may also be a Magical Angle unless one planet is Saturn." So, transiting Chiron needs to make one of these aspects to Jupiter, Venus, or Neptune. OR, transiting Jupiter, transiting Venus and transiting Neptune can be making these aspects to your natal Chiron. In terms of transits, from my understanding, there isn't really a negative Chiron transit, other than the Heartbreak Transit. However, that can only occur (as Mir clarified for me) when transiting Saturn makes a square, opposition, quincunx, or contraparallel/contralatitude with Chiron. Or, when the Saturn/Chiron midpoint "clashes" with the Sun or Chiron. There is also the Nuclear Transit, which is from transiting Saturn to natal Jupiter (but doesn't apply when it's the other way around, as Mir clarified). According to Magi, you don't want to have any Heartbreak Transits or Nuclear Transits when you meet a romantic partner, and you want as many Cinderella Transits as possible. Even if you have a Cinderella Transit, if you have Heartbreak Transits or Nuclear Transits, the relationship is likely to end horribly (according to Magi). Magi Astrology is a bit complicated. There are a lot of very specific rules. I recommend checking out their free E-Book, and some articles online, if you have an interest. I'm still not entirely sure if I agree with everything they say. However, from my own personal experience, Cinderella Transits appear to indicate that a Soulmate encounter is going to occur (provided there aren't any Heartbreak or Nuclear Transits). Although, we also had a number of positive aspects/interesting alignments in Western Astrology too, so I don't know if this necessarily is evidence of Magi Astrology being accurate. But, I'm willing to consider it as a possibility.
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girlwiththerainysoul Knowflake Posts: 2412 From: Into the wormhole on Saturn's ring Registered: Jul 2016
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posted March 23, 2017 02:20 PM
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vansio Knowflake Posts: 774 From: ICQ# = discord# Registered: Dec 2017
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Kannon McAfee Moderator Posts: 4205 From: Portland, OR - USA Registered: Oct 2011
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posted September 25, 2019 02:00 PM
I studied Magi Astrology over 20 years ago. I had their ephemeris. Other than declinations, I don't think their approach is very helpful. I don't use any of their ideas today, and haven't for, well most of two decades. I think they're more brand/marketing as they are astrology, because they've come up with their own terms like "Cinderella periods", etc, attempting to lure people in with appeals to fantasy and romance. The main problem is that they do natal astrology while attempting to work around birth times and properly timed horoscopes. They could have used well timed birth charts to study, but relied instead on a more statistical, mass data approach with celebrity examples that waters things down. Their research on basic things like planetary meanings has been based heavily if not entirely on the responses of astrologers to their survey questionnaires, which they then portray as if it were something new only they had discovered. Planetary meanings was done pretty well already by Rex Bills in his volume The Rulership Book. I prefer it. ------------------ Soul Stars Astrology by The Declinations Guy Expert birth chart rectification IP: Logged | |