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hallowseve
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posted March 23, 2017 06:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hallowseve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This natal chart has 11 squares. Without Chiron it has 9 squares and only 2 trines.
http://i.imgur.com/EdONKwO.jpg

Locomotive Chart with lead planet Jupiter:

Mars conjunct Moon
Mars square Mercury
Saturn conjunct Venus
Uranus opposes Moon, Squares Soon, Trine Saturn
Chiron opposes Jupiter (lead planet), sextile Pluto
NN trine Mercury, conjunct Jupiter, opposes Chiron
SN opposes Jupiter (lead planet), conjunct Chiron
Asc square Moon, opposes Sun, squares Uranus, opposes Pluto, trine Chiron, trine SN
Mc squares Venus, trines Mars, conjunct Neptune


Thoughts? Does anyone else have a similar chart? Is this supposed to make a difficult life for someone?

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lalalinda
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posted March 23, 2017 07:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello hallowseve! Welcome to LL!

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Randall
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posted March 23, 2017 07:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome!

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Lerena
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posted March 23, 2017 09:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lerena     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Many squares do indicate a difficult life, especially if there aren't a lot of soft aspects. My chart has 9 squares in it, but it's also balanced by trines and sextiles, so I've had a difficult life along with some luxuries that are probably rare for people with a lot of squares.

My boyfriend has 10 squares within orb and his chart is mostly hard aspects. Although I won't go into the details, his life has been tougher than mine, which in theory could be indicated by him having less soft aspects in his chart.

Based on the chart you linked to, it is quite likely that it indicates a hard life.

Just my two cents. I think it's a good idea to seek a second opinion from someone more experienced though.

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hallowseve
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posted March 24, 2017 12:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hallowseve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for the replies everyone.

I've noticed the natal chart has a Grand Cross which is said to be one of the rarest patterns?

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hallowseve
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posted March 24, 2017 01:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hallowseve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The grand cross is in Air, Earth, Fire, and Water.

Libra Moon, Capricorn Pluto, Aries Uranus, Asc Cancer.

All Cardinal signs.

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posted March 24, 2017 02:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome to Lindaland!

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Beautiful_Light
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posted March 24, 2017 11:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Beautiful_Light     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A lot of challenges to overcome but I've heard these people have the potential for greatness.

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hallowseve
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posted March 29, 2017 03:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hallowseve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Beautiful_Light:
A lot of challenges to overcome but I've heard these people have the potential for greatness.

Thank you for your feedback.

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mirage29
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posted March 29, 2017 03:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you redo this chart using Placidus houses, (instead of Equal), I think the Grand Square might disappear?

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hallowseve
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posted March 29, 2017 09:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hallowseve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mirage29:
If you redo this chart using Placidus houses, (instead of Equal), I think the Grand Square might disappear?

I am still exploring the different house systems. The natal chart includes coordinates that are in Alaska and I've read that the Arctic Circle can clash with some of the house systems. I think the location is just outside of that circle though.

One more thing to add is that the Grand Cross includes the ascendant instead of a 4th planet, which makes it debatable on whether or not this a true Grand Cross.

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mirage29
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posted March 30, 2017 12:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Arctic circle.. ah yes, I remember reading something on problems using certain charts up at that latitude (long ago too).

Saw a blurb that Solar Fire can't calculate a Koch house system chart higher than 66 degrees Latitude.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_%28astrology%29
http://www.aquamoonlight.co.uk/systems.html
http://www.elsaelsa.com/astrology/when-your-ascendant-is-part-of-a-grand-cross/


An additional website to add to your curiosity and interests.
http://www.lynnkoiner.com/astrology-articles/the-kite-pattern

Stay Cozy and Warm!

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Randall
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posted April 01, 2017 09:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's a lot of squares.

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hallowseve
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posted April 02, 2017 01:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hallowseve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
That's a lot of squares.

I know! As a mother, it makes me worrisome. I am trying to get a realistic picture of what this could mean, while trying to stay positive.

Again, thanks everyone for the input.

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hallowseve
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posted April 02, 2017 01:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hallowseve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mirage29:
Arctic circle.. ah yes, I remember reading something on problems using certain charts up at that latitude (long ago too).

Saw a blurb that Solar Fire can't calculate a Koch house system chart higher than 66 degrees Latitude.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_%28astrology%29
http://www.aquamoonlight.co.uk/systems.html
http://www.elsaelsa.com/astrology/when-your-ascendant-is-part-of-a-grand-cross/


An additional website to add to your curiosity and interests.
http://www.lynnkoiner.com/astrology-articles/the-kite-pattern

Stay Cozy and Warm!


Thank you for sharing the links. After reading some of the information. The only true pattern (using planets alone) is a T-Square with Libra Moon, Capricorn Pluto, Aries Uranus. So, no grand cross. Whew! But, still a T-Square to deal with.

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