posted April 08, 2017 09:41 PM            

1, Chiron conjunct the ASC- –I seem to specialize in this because I seem to have “discovered” that it means severe bullying. I am not saying I discovered this, per se . I just have never seen it stated by anyone else and I found it by doing charts. Hence, I tried to understand why and came upon some conclusions. If humans see pain, they attack. Why is this? Fear, probably. Not all humans are bullies but enough are that a person with this placement will go through a version of hell on earth.

2. Moon conjunct the ASC–this is said to give a person good looks. In my experience, this is true. They may have an adorable baby face. This person will wear his heart on his sleeve, no matter what else he has in his charrt, even a strong secretive Pluto. The Moon conjunct the ASC or MC will show his heart to the world. I have the Moon conjunct the MC, so know about this. The ASC is slightly different, in that it relates to his normal life and not his career life. Trying to separate these is artificial . Both placements show their hearts. However, the ASC placement shows his heart more in daily life. The MC placement shows his heart more in his career and to society, in general. I do agree about this. I am not as open in my daily life as I am in my career. The chart never lies down to the very details.

3. Neptune conjunct the ASC–I have heard that people with this get bullied. I have 2 accounts of this but that is all. I do know that it gives a glamorous sense to the person as in a Jackie O. She may have had this or not, I don't know, but she exemplifies it. For the native, it gives an amorphous sense of self, which is HARD. I have Neptune in the 1st House and I struggle to feel whole and not fragmented. Conjunct the ASC is very much stronger and so they struggle to feel solid. If people see this, that could bring out bullying.

4. Pluto conjunct the ASC is very different from any of the above. It is a powerhouse and comes by it naturally. You will love him or hate him, but you WON”T miss him. He is large. He walks and talks large. If it is a woman, she walks and talks large, even if she is petite. Pluto conj the ASC is the sign of the leader. He will not be bullied into taking a sheeple position so he can fit in. He was not made to fit in but to stand out. I love this position as you know where you stand and that means a lot in this day of airy, fairy political correctness.

5.Mars conjunct the ASC—This is a wonderful placement and horrible placement. I think we can say that about this. It gives the person get up and go and great assertiveness. However, these traits may make the person obnoxious. If you have Mars conjunct the ASC, be careful you are not obnoxious and alienate people. These people do not seem to realize that they are alienating people until everyone leaves and they don’t know why. Check yourself before you wreck yourself as Ali G says.

6.Venus conjunct the ASC–Just as Mars conjunct the ASC may be obnoxious, Venus conjunct the ASC is charming. This placement confers beauty and grace. You will feel it from the person and you will enjoy being in his/her presence. This placement is a pure gift.

7.Mercury conjunct the ASC—This placement gives a warm, friendly, chatty vibe to the native. They are good listeners and curious about all things. They may have an impish look to them, as if they are conjuring up mischief and they probably are.

8. Sun Conjunct ASC–these natives have a natural self confidence. It is a gift but they have to be careful that they are not too self centered. There is a balance. Self confidence is needed. However, there is a fine line between self centered and self confidence. This is a struggle for every human being but more so for the person with Sun conjunct the ASC. In this case, look to the house in which Leo is on the cusp. That sphere of life will be what the native brings to the world.

9. Jupiter conj the ASC–I have saved the best for last. Jupiter is opening presents on Christmas day. Jupiter just feels good. We all like to be near a “feel-good” person. This native is popular because he spreads feel good vibes like fairy dust. He does not have to try. They exude from him. He may have a hard time controlling his weight. Jupiter enlarges what it touches. It gives him a big spirit in the manner of Santa Claus but santa had a weight problem, too.

10. Uranus conjunct the ASC–We can say weird-o in one word. Does weird have to be bad? No, only weirdos take risks to provide growth for the rest of us. Any great reformer was a weirdo until time caught up with him. That may have been long after his death, as isthe case with many great musicians, poets and artists. Uranus conjunct the ASC will show his individuality, somehow. He may dress weird, wear strange make-up or have an opinion that makes everyone spill his drink at the cocktail party. The Unaspected Uranus is the most beautiful Unaspected Planet, in my opinion. Here is a person who is totally himself. Don’t we all want that?

11. Saturn conjunct the ASC–This can be a mixed bag but mostly hard. The good part would be that they can have beautiful facial structure in the way of an Angelica Huston. It will be strong and very dignified looking. The bad part is that they can have bone and teeth problems. I know one Saturn conjunct the ASC who had a dentist break his baby tooth such that the adult tooth grew in weird. I know several Capricorn ASC’s ( which is similar) who have had long beak like noses and many got nose jobs.

Emotionally, Saturn conjunct the ASC can make a person grow up fast. He will have the persona of an old man when he is a child. Do you know those children who look like wise old men. I bet they have Saturn conjunct the ASC or a Capricorn ASC.

PS If famous people are used as examples, I am using them for purposes of illustration and am not saying they have the placement in their charts, necessarily.

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posted April 09, 2017 02:01 PM            

Question - what kind of orb would you expect to see these effects at?

I have a few examples. One girl at work, she is beautiful in a completely unexpected way; she's a bona fide genius (actual), is definitely a bit quirky, and suffers with low confidence due to rough rides in the past - I'm pretty sure she was bullied as a child.

She has Neptune conjunct Asc at 2deg, and Uranus conjunct Asc at 4deg, both in the 12th.

I think the world of her - she has the sweet innocence along with deadly smarts. Incidentally, my Amor is exact conjunct her Asc, and her Amor conjuncts my Venus ha.

I know two other strong examples. My ex has Uranus rising -3degrees - in the 12th. He loved to be different, is deliberately counter-trend despite being introverted. He has scorp rising, too.

My good friend also has Uranus rising - less than 1 degree - in the 12th, also. But he also has Jupiter rising in the first, by 4 degrees. The Jupiter definitely warms up his charisma, but the combination of Uranus and Jupiter on a Sag Ascendant can make him blow hot and cold - and simply not care about what people think.

The weight element does hold true here - he does a huge amount of physical exercise, but can put weight on in a flash. He worries about it a lot - combined with a venus-mars conjunction in Virgo and chiron in the 6th, I do sometimes worry about him slipping into eating disorder territory.

posted April 09, 2017 02:43 PM            

My sis has an exact conj with chiron. I wouldn't say she is easily bullied but you do see her pain.

posted April 09, 2017 03:02 PM            

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Originally posted by bananaz:
Daughter has jupiter conj asc <3 She came to me during a time when I was grieving and she does feel like a gift.

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That is so beautiful. Have you seen The Good Dinosaur? For me that was the story, that when children come into your life, you discover your courage through the lessons they teach.

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posted April 09, 2017 08:28 PM            

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Originally posted by bananaz:
Daughter has jupiter conj asc <3 She came to me during a time when I was grieving and she does feel like a gift.

My sis has an exact conj with chiron. I wouldn't say she is easily bullied but you do see her pain.

What do you think of NN conj Asc?

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I wrote an article on that. The purpose of that person has something to do with how she is in her daily life, such as mannerisms, style, daily living in some way, B

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posted April 09, 2017 09:37 PM            

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Originally posted by Stellia:
That is so beautiful. Have you seen The Good Dinosaur? For me that was the story, that when children come into your life, you discover your courage through the lessons they teach.

NN conj Asc is a really good point. Maybe this is an individual whose life purpose is out in the open for all to see? I think it would depend a lot on whether it was a 1St or 12th house conjunction. Is it yours bananaz?

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Loved Good Dinosaur. Cried like a baby haha. Agree about learning through our children. It's such a cool thing re-experiencing their innocence.

NN conj Asc is also in my daughter's chart. She has NN hovering over it in the 12th and jupiter right below it in the 1st. I have Merc conj Asc but I think the orb is too wide to be considered an actual conjunction.

posted April 09, 2017 09:38 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I wrote an article on that. The purpose of that person has something to do with how she is in her daily life, such as mannerisms, style, daily living in some way, B

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posted April 10, 2017 11:09 AM            

He has done it for so long and so consistently that I hope he finds peace.

I read parts of his biography and even though he was not bullied, he had to confront a lot of situations where he felt threatened.

His Chiron is in warrior Aries.And i honestly think Aries Asc conjunct the Chiron in Aries fits ; with that Moon in 6th(difficult relationship with mom) and the "dark persona" (Mars/Venus conjunct in Scorpio).

posted April 10, 2017 03:07 PM            

Uranus conjunct ascendant. I think what you wrote about the retrograde was more like me, although there was one part that wasn't. I can't remember what that was. I am definitely my own person, but my life also hasn't entirely been my own. That reference to my signature again, applies here.

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posted April 10, 2017 03:18 PM            

You have a personal chemistry that never fails to stimulate people to be friendly toward you. No one should feel any discomfort with you because you project yourself freely and honestly.

posted May 12, 2017 05:07 PM            

Make that three, Ami.

10. Uranus conjunct the ASC–We can say weird-o in one word. Does weird have to be bad? No, only weirdos take risks to provide growth for the rest of us. Any great reformer was a weirdo until time caught up with him. That may have been long after his death, as isthe case with many great musicians, poets and artists. Uranus conjunct the ASC will show his individuality, somehow. He may dress weird, wear strange make-up or have an opinion that makes everyone spill his drink at the cocktail party. The Unaspected Uranus is the most beautiful Unaspected Planet, in my opinion. Here is a person who is totally himself. Don’t we all want that?

Neptune in 12th, Uranus in 1st.

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posted May 14, 2017 02:36 PM            

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Originally posted by Stellia:
I like these easy reference posts, Ami

Question - what kind of orb would you expect to see these effects at?

I have a few examples. One girl at work, she is beautiful in a completely unexpected way; she's a bona fide genius (actual), is definitely a bit quirky, and suffers with low confidence due to rough rides in the past - I'm pretty sure she was bullied as a child.

She has Neptune conjunct Asc at 2deg, and Uranus conjunct Asc at 4deg, both in the 12th.

I think the world of her - she has the sweet innocence along with deadly smarts. Incidentally, my Amor is exact conjunct her Asc, and her Amor conjuncts my Venus ha.

I know two other strong examples. My ex has Uranus rising -3degrees - in the 12th. He loved to be different, is deliberately counter-trend despite being introverted. He has scorp rising, too.

My good friend also has Uranus rising - less than 1 degree - in the 12th, also. But he also has Jupiter rising in the first, by 4 degrees. The Jupiter definitely warms up his charisma, but the combination of Uranus and Jupiter on a Sag Ascendant can make him blow hot and cold - and simply not care about what people think.

The weight element does hold true here - he does a huge amount of physical exercise, but can put weight on in a flash. He worries about it a lot - combined with a venus-mars conjunction in Virgo and chiron in the 6th, I do sometimes worry about him slipping into eating disorder territory.

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Fun fact - I attract a LOT of Uranus risings... That'll be my Aquarius ascendant pulling them in. I like weird, and they know their weird is safe with me, it seems 😊

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Would this be the same for Aquarius Descendant?

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