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colorful butterfly
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posted April 10, 2017 03:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for colorful butterfly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Recently , a co worker of mine neighbor was stabbed infont of her child by the child's father. She was leaving him and he killed her. From what I understand is that he was very controlling of her and when he couldn't do that anymore he killed her.

Another story that was on the news was a man thought that his kids were not his, told the mother that he was going to kill them and stabbed them. He stabbed his infant son and the other child was 4. The guy had issues with drugs from what I was told.

A few years back, a man shot a woman that he was cheating on with his girlfriend. The girl wanted out of the triangle and he shot her.

So I was wandering what aspects would cause another to kill the other person outside astroids. Also what in someones chart would cause them to kill someone?

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Nine
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posted April 10, 2017 03:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sun-Mars hard aspects. Often with Mars as the killer.

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soren
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posted April 10, 2017 04:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
actually zebras do that, when their GF has a kid, they can somehow just sense its not theirs and they stomp it to death, most of the time.

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athenaia
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posted April 10, 2017 04:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenaia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sometimes I'm more interested in looking at a victim's chart rather than the serial killers chart.

Because of this, a pattern I noticed was Chiron tightly conjunct the Sun in the natal, or Chiron tightly conjunct a major luminary (Chiron/Venus was another).

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colorful butterfly
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posted April 10, 2017 05:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for colorful butterfly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by athenaia:
Sometimes I'm more interested in looking at a victim's chart rather than the serial killers chart.

Because of this, a pattern I noticed was Chiron tightly conjunct the Sun in the natal, or Chiron tightly conjunct a major luminary (Chiron/Venus was another).


Oh dear God, the girl at work that told me about her neighbor has her Chiron conjunct her sun. I have my Ceres conjunct to this, I am going to teach her how to shoot a gun and not miss.

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colorful butterfly
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posted April 10, 2017 05:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for colorful butterfly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Nine:
Sun-Mars hard aspects. Often with Mars as the killer.

Woooahhhhh!!!! I dated a guy and we both has sun conjunct mars dw. Also my pluto to his mars. Also venus\ sun conjunctions dw. A lot of other things that would cause love but also it could be very toxic.

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posted April 10, 2017 08:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by athenaia:
Sometimes I'm more interested in looking at a victim's chart rather than the serial killers chart.

Because of this, a pattern I noticed was Chiron tightly conjunct the Sun in the natal, or Chiron tightly conjunct a major luminary (Chiron/Venus was another).


I was strangled by someone when I was five. I have Chiron tightly conjunct my Ceres/Sun, and he was engaged to my mother. She had Moon, Jupiter, Chiron, and Neptune, all grouped together in Libra (and Mars conjunct Pluto in Leo - they didn't know who they were messing with).

I've just put a book down, that I bought for mum, unfortunately on the day that she died. There is a character that the book is based on - a boyfriend of the main character - who sounds just like the sociopath she was also engaged to, after the previous guy. She had a bad run of things, for several years there (and consequently, so did we). I've been trying to avoid men like that, my whole life. People, really, but especially men. I can be pretty soft, and I've known people to try to take advantage of that.

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posted April 10, 2017 08:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for colorful butterfly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by teasel:

I was strangled by someone when I was five. I have Chiron tightly conjunct my Ceres/Sun, and he was engaged to my mother. She had Moon, Jupiter, Chiron, and Neptune, all grouped together in Libra (and Mars conjunct Pluto in Leo - they didn't know who they were messing with).

I've just put a book down, that I bought for mum, unfortunately on the day that she died. There is a character that the book is based on - a boyfriend of the main character - who sounds just like the sociopath she was also engaged to, after the previous guy. She had a bad run of things, for several years there (and consequently, so did we). I've been trying to avoid men like that, my whole life. People, really, but especially men. I can be pretty soft, and I've known people to try to take advantage of that.


Sorry to hear that Teasel, some people in this world are truly evil, selfish and greedy unable to see others as people.I don't blame you for avoiding men like that and maybe in some way these things were there in the past for that very reason, maybe whatever your life's purpose is to help save others threw your story.

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Aries23Degrees
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posted April 11, 2017 01:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
These stories are shocking.

Some males believe strongly in their own "divine" right to do as they please to others.

No person hurts another who is not hurt themselves. I am looking at outer planet Pluto in Houses 1 through to 8.

Pluto in aspect to Sun/Moon/Mer/Ven/Mars
Pluto in aspect to 1st,4th,7th or ruler of those houses especially

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posted April 11, 2017 12:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for colorful butterfly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
These stories are shocking.

Some males believe strongly in their own "divine" right to do as they please to others.

No person hurts another who is not hurt themselves. I am looking at outer planet Pluto in Houses 1 through to 8.

Pluto in aspect to Sun/Moon/Mer/Ven/Mars
Pluto in aspect to 1st,4th,7th or ruler of those houses especially


I have Pluto natal conjunct to my Moon in my 1st house. Even though I am Plutonian , I still don't understand stalkers and killers. There are way too many people in this world than to just get fixed on one person.

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posted April 11, 2017 12:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for colorful butterfly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The only story in my personal experience with people I know is there use to be a guy that I liked. We didn't make it to the boyfriend and girlfriend stage and at the time, it sucked. I later married my ex husband but the girl the other guy did end up with. He saw her one day talking to this guy or something and he beat her with a baseball bat putting her in the hospital. She was in love with this guy, would do anything for him etc. I don't know about the guy she was talking to at the time but my understanding he was just someone she knew and there was nothing to it outside of being friendly.

I Thank God for unanswered prayers!!!! Sometimes what you want is not always what is best for you was the lesson I learned from that.

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Aries23Degrees
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posted April 11, 2017 10:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^^ ,That story is outrageous

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Kannon McAfee
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posted April 11, 2017 10:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nothing. People are responsible for their own actions.

NO planet 'causes' anyone to murder.

People who have compulsions to violence may have serious lessons to learn regarding temper, control, dominance, anger, etc, but planets do not compel.

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Sulkyarcher
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posted April 12, 2017 12:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sulkyarcher     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Virgos and Pisces tend to be the victims in horror movies!

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hallowseve
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posted April 12, 2017 02:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hallowseve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
Nothing. People are responsible for their own actions.

[b]NO planet 'causes' anyone to murder.

People who have compulsions to violence may have serious lessons to learn regarding temper, control, dominance, anger, etc, but planets do not compel.

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I completely agree. We have free will.

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