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CapriciousCapricorn
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posted April 10, 2017 03:59 PM
  
Here's a theory of mine on similarities in natal charts. I would like to ask for your feedback. Tell me how it works for you. I will explain what I have observed in my life, then you can tell me about yours.I think many here know a lot about affinity in synastry - attraction based on similarities by 1) element 2) aspect 3) natal chart itself. So if for example you are an Aquarius Sun in 11H then you will find an affinity with someone who's 1) by element - has planets in Aquarius (your sign) or signs of air and fire 2) by aspect - their planets favourably aspect your Sun 3) by natal chart - they have something that's similar to your Aquarius sign energy. They can, for example have Sun conjunct Uranus or Venus in 11H. They can also have similar aspects to yours in their natal chart etc etc. I would like to ask you about the third one - similarity of natal charts. People come into each others' lives because of both differences that they have and similarities too. Let's think about similarities here. There seems to be a consensus that similarities are enjoyed by both people equally. Tell me what you think about it. I think it's definitely not the same feeling for both people, it's not equal. If we take the above example, I think it's Aquarius Sun who is more attracted to Sun conjunct Uranus person. Basically 'the original' gets 'fooled' by 'a copycat'. The original is the person who really is Aquarius. A copycat is the person who makes the Aquarius Sun person think they have Aquarian energy too. They don't of course, meaning that it's not a pure Aquarius energy. That's what affinity is. It's a similarity. There will be a lot in common but Aquarius Sun is not a Sun conjunct Uranus and Sun conjunct Uranus person is not really an Aquarius. So to me this means that it's the original who gets pulled in/attracted first. It's them who feels the affinity. The copycat does not mind and also benefits from relationship. They both enjoy the interaction. People look for points of connection to another person. I have a Sun conjunct Neptune in my chart. Mars in Pisces too. That's all the Pisces I have. Nothing in 12H, Pisces on the cusp of 12H. Yet about 70% of my friends have Pisces in their chart. My Moon and Venus are in Aquarius. You'd think my friends would have this sign in their charts but NO, VERY FEW do. I am much more likely to attract someone who has Pisces in their chart than Aquarius. Now if I go and check the charts of these same friends (with Pisces in their charts), they have the Aquarius copycat aspects and placements - Venus in 11H, Mercury conjunct Uranus, Uranus opposite Sun, Uranus conjunct Venus etc. I haven't mentioned the synastry house overlay. This really matters too. Your copycat is also someone who casts their planets (in this example) in your 11H (Aquarius). So this works both ways. With best friends you can observe 2 people being each other's copycats. Each has what the other wants. A lot of similarities between them. Harmony. But in situations when it's a one way street I assume that the original is the one who goes after the copycat. So if you ask something like 'I am a Scorpio Venus and this new guy I like has his Sun in 8H. What does it look like for us?' then based on this information alone I will say 'YOU will be attracted to him' because YOU are the one who is fooled into thinking they have a Scorpio energy, not the other way round. Check if that guy has aspects/placements that 'copy'/mimic something in your chart, this in turn will make them attracted to you. This post is actually inspired by a recent post where someone was asking about Moon in Aries versus Moon conjunct Mars. I started thinking about it. I should really like Aries Moon because I have a Moon Mars conjunction. My Moon is in Aquarius. That should be another reason why I should like Aries Moon because Aquarius and Aries get along just fine (sextile). But no, I am not crazy about Aries Moon. Yes, Aries are impatient just like my own Moon Mars conjunction is but Aries are a little egocentric and they crave energy-high activities (both things I don't like)..So it made me think deeper and the conclusion was that it's the Aries Moon who is attracted to me rather than the other way round. I like them OK but they just like me more in the beginning  Anyways, this is not a perfect example because any Aries Moon will fall in my 7H so romantically interested Aries Moon will find out that admiration is mutual. But you get the idea. IP: Logged |
Libracorn
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posted April 10, 2017 04:21 PM
This is very good CapriciousCapricorn! In my opinion, it makes sense. I would also like to add Sun-Asc aspects in synastry are VERY important. It's literally the astrological handshake in meeting people for the first time. First impressions are a biggie! It's people's first judgement of you (ie: should I really try to get to know this person or not? - AKA; try to notice their Sun/Moon traits). If your Sun is at odds with the other party's Asc, you may not really care much for their mannerisms or their outer personality, therefore you won't really try to get to know them.
What I've noticed is that I automatically seem to not pay attention to people that have their Ascendant square my Sun. It's not that I don't care about them, it's just that I don't really seem to 'notice' them much per say. However, some people with their Ascendant square my Sun have approached me first and once I get to know them and I do their chart, the "AHA!" moment comes to light. The same has worked vice-versa.
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CapriciousCapricorn
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posted April 10, 2017 05:17 PM
Libracorn,thank you! Asc is really important but unfortunately most people don't know their exact time of birth  and it's really skewing things if I only look at my Asc but don't take into account theirs (because I don't know it). So most of the time regarding Asc I only pay attention if I see conjunctions on my Asc/Dsc axis. What you said about Sun square Asc in synastry is very interesting. I'm going to look up some of my synastries to see how it worked for me in the past. Thanks for bringing it up! IP: Logged |
hearttreasure
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posted April 10, 2017 07:48 PM
I have sun in Aqua 2nd house.My two ex bf share similar natal chart, they have Sun opposite Uranus (and Saturn) and Mercury conjunct Mars. They are the one who get attracted to me fast. Their Sun opposite Uranus doesn't attract me because both are extrovert and loud and quite rebel, which I don't. But I have mercury and venus in 3rd house, and they have Gemini in their chart. My sun in 2nd house and they have Taurus in their chart. My moon in 4th house and one of them has Cancer in their chart. Maybe this explains why they get attracted to me? IP: Logged |
colorful butterfly
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posted April 11, 2017 01:15 PM
I have Sun in Cancer square my Libra moon conjunct pluto, Sextile my Saturn in Virgo and Trine my Uranus in Scorpio.I attract everybody( all signs) and I generally like everyone. I don't find too many people that I can't hang out with etc and have a cool time with. I have a knack for turning and foe into a friend, very well loved and liked once someone gets to know me. I can say usually if I don't like someone, their pretty evil. I see good and bad in everyone but understand most of the time that something created the bad. On a side note: I use to take things kind of personally when someone started to act funny\petty etc. but then learned that it is usually something to do with them and people 's projections. Most people actin out, it comes from a place of hurt or fear. I just try to figure out what the deal is and solve the problem without compremiseing my values or self. IP: Logged |
Stellia
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posted April 13, 2017 12:17 PM
I think this is really good work CapriciousCapricorn - I definitely agree there's something here. One really good example is that I keep attracting guys with uranus conjunct the ascendant; whereas I have Aquarius Rising. I think it 100% smooths the way in terms of accepting differences and strikes a certain tuning fork effect. IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees
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posted April 13, 2017 02:30 PM
I agree that people are most attracted to "similarities" they see in another. That is where the term "my type" is borne i.e "my typical expression".If there is a Moon/Mars aspect...yes
If there is a Venus/Mercury aspect...yes
If there is a Moon/Venus aspect...yes
If there is a Saturn/Moon aspect...yes
If there is a Saturn/Venus aspect.....yes
If there is a Merc/Moon aspect...hell yeah
If there is a Merc/Mars aspect...hell yeah.
If there is Saturn/Merc aspect....yes. Relationships are a mirror. So they mirror back to us who we think we are based on the people we gravitate towards or fall in like with. And many times i am amazed at how similar our charts are My best friend has Moon/merc conj
Moon/Mars conj
Merc/Mars conj
Venus/Saturn trine IP: Logged |
margym0o
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posted April 13, 2017 02:51 PM
I'm inclined to agree, as my partner has a lot of "mirrored" aspects to my natal chart, but...If we really dig hard enough, isn't it easy to find these sorts of connections even if they're far reaching? I mean, EVERYONE could be compatible with you in some way if we start trying to make these associations, especially when you're playing the odds. If someone has a very full natal chart with many aspects between their natal planets, there's a pretty good chance they will encounter MANY people with similar aspects to them because hey, there are only so many combinations... The really amazing thing would be to compare two people with very sparse charts...THEN the mirroring would be significant... IP: Logged |
CapriciousCapricorn
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posted April 13, 2017 06:05 PM
Thank you everyone for replies! quote:
Originally posted by margym0o:
If we really dig hard enough, isn't it easy to find these sorts of connections even if they're far reaching? I mean, EVERYONE could be compatible with you in some way if we start trying to make these associations, especially when you're playing the odds. If someone has a very full natal chart with many aspects between their natal planets, there's a pretty good chance they will encounter MANY people with similar aspects to them because hey, there are only so many combinations... The really amazing thing would be to compare two people with very sparse charts...THEN the mirroring would be significant...
YES, I thought about that too. Agree. But I guess the trick here is to see how much of this mirroring there's in their chart. After all, there probably are people who generally get along great with others, someone like colorful butterfly maybe and those with chart of many aspects are interesting people after all, they have so much to offer to so many people I guess! Also, think about single aspects like Moon trine Venus in a man's chart. He will generally get along great with women, unlike someone with Moon square Venus. Really, there are so many factors to take in when doing synastry. Everything matters. IP: Logged |
Ayelet
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posted April 13, 2017 07:08 PM
I have moon-Mars conjunction in Gemini and like Aries moon, which is mutual. I also have sun-Venus wide conjunction in the 7th house, but don't have many Librans as friends... though one of my best friends has a Libra moon. But he is a Gemini, and I usually have it easy with Geminis, regardless of their moon sign... I also have high chemistry with males with the moon in Scorpio, females with the sun in Scorpio,both male and female with thep sun in an earth sign and sun or ascendant in Saggitarius. And I guess there are other placements too, but these are the ones which come to mind.Scorpio - 8th house stellium, Uranus, the cusp of the 11th house. Pluto as the dominant planet.
Capricorn - ascendant. Taurus - 5th house, Virgo - 9th house - compatible. They are also compatible with my Cancer sun.
Saggitarius - Neptune - aspecting most of my planets. I hope you find this information beneficial for your investigation. IP: Logged |
nordicsoul
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posted April 15, 2017 04:57 PM
interesting ideas CC. thinking on my experience, I have sun conjunct venus mars and I attract aries (not much into them though) and libras (very much into them).. i suspect the reason i do not feel the pull from aries is that I am more aries than libra.. like i project venus and express mars.. I do not think it is the copycat thing, but the energy you express or project. maybe you express your aries energy through the moon (i also have mar-moon conjuntion) it is easy to express the energy of the moon as the moon is very instinctual. but, to your basic question, my experience confirm part of your theory. the fact that we attract people that are similar to us, although they tend to express the energy we dont express (but it is in our charts). like they complement that part of us that is THERE but not fully OWNED.. IP: Logged |
CapriciousCapricorn
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posted April 18, 2017 01:19 PM
Ayelet and Nordicsoul,Just wanted to say that I did read and found useful your replies so thank you very much for them! IP: Logged |
nordicsoul
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posted April 20, 2017 11:00 AM
You are welcome! thanks for bringing this interesting topicNS IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted April 23, 2017 03:44 PM
Interesting!IP: Logged |
Solar_Leo_Queen
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posted April 26, 2017 05:37 AM
My brain cells just got tickled. I'm gonna do my own research about this theory. I'll see if I can confirm! Thanks for this  I'll def get back to this post later on to let you know what I find.IP: Logged |
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