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Solar_Leo_Queen
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posted April 27, 2017 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Solar_Leo_Queen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello, everyone. I just have a very quick question for you. This question is geared towards the older folks more (no offense). See, I am only 19, and every since I started studying astrology, I have come to know more about myself. However, it feels like I am stuck with what I already know and what I think I already am.

I know for sure astrology is a tool you can use for self-improvement. I was just wondering, have you guys gotten over your difficult placements/aspects (or at least in the process of)? If so, I'd like to hear your stories and which placement it was that you had struggles with.

Thank you!

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Sun in Leo (2nd house)
Moon in Cancer (1st house)
Mercury in Virgo (3rd house conj.)
Venus in Virgo (3rd house)
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MoonMystic
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posted April 27, 2017 01:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonMystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
(Probably not the reply you hoped for, sorry)


I'm interested in reading the replies to you, as I 'am older'. I just thought I'd say, you are blessed to have this tool of understanding 'you' @19! If only I had this back then, so much difficulty might have been much easier.
(Not marrying until afer 30 was an inner awareness I had. I had 2 potential marriages before 30, I ruined both. Now I believe I knew I had to).
Your natal chart is important; however life is about lessons and gut feelings too, without those we might not grow, spiritually. There are people decades older than me (I'm in my 4th fourth decade) that may never learn and repeat the same mistakes over and over, even beyond their 60s. Knowing ourselves + learning from our mistakes is extremely important. We are much like the baby put on the floor to begin walking but to fall until walla, getting the hang of it!

You have a very wonderful journey ahead of you, much because you care enough to inquire of your path and the possible hindrances.
All the best to you.


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mirage29
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posted April 27, 2017 05:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
MoonMystic! Wonderful thoughts, great advice.

Solar_Leo_Queen
Like MoonMystic said-- You're trying to understand your own personality and astrology NOW, which can help you aim your life towards more accurate and better spaces. Help you avert some pot-holes and gullies, hint at your hidden talents-- gain an awareness of ways you could continually short-change yourself.

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Sulkyarcher
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posted April 28, 2017 11:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sulkyarcher     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If we are to believe in reincarnation, some souls need more than one lesson to 'get it'.

The older the soul, I'm just guessing here, the faster the soul learns.

If a person with a heavily Saturnian chart, like me, makes a mistake, the consequences are swift and sometimes heavy.

Perhaps those, like me, with heavy Saturn in our charts, have gotten away with enough. So this lifetime, the consequences are faster and more blatant. Whereas in other lifetimes, if I pushed someone, I would get no punishment, or just a slap on the wrist.

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bananaz
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posted April 28, 2017 11:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bananaz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I believe so. I think you have to want it, too. Not that you have to necessarily follow astrology to understand your demons.

Saturn square Venus has hit me hard in this lifetime, and if there is any *one* aspect I've grown from, it would be that one. I don't think I've mastered it. I still struggle with those issues, but it's not nearly as overwhelming as it was in my teens/ early twenties.

There are other challenging aspects I would say I haven't learned what I should've. Sulky could easily be right about it taking more than one lifetime^^^

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colorful butterfly
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posted April 29, 2017 01:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for colorful butterfly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, from what I have learned is that planets die down with age. So like in my chart I have Saturn square mars. Saturn dies down by the age of 39, peaks at 36. When I was younger my temper was horrible but as I have gotten older, the temper is still there, I just have learned lessons on dealing with anger and how to manage it.

Currently at my job, we are working on a therapeutic method about the action that someone takes and how to not over or under react to a situation that someone would consider a crisis. Learning the evaluation of is this a high threat vs a low threat. How to determine these things etc. ~ Saturns lessons

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DualGemV2
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posted April 29, 2017 01:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DualGemV2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your millage may very.

For most people I would say they eventually learn to correct there faults, its a part of life.

Your only stuck in a job, relationship and etc until you learn from it and can finally move on. This corresponds to learning how to deal with difficult placements in your chart.

That is for most people, a small majority of people will never be able to overcome there negative placements.

As per me I use to manipulate people into doing things. I don't do it so much anymore since I've seen it backfire.

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Kannon McAfee
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posted April 30, 2017 06:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good question!

I'm 47 and did not start studying astrology until age 26. So you're getting an earlier start and that can be to your advantage. Just don't take it too seriously, and take breaks from it. And don't confuse your chart with you. You are eternal. Your birth chart this lifetime is only your astrological influence -- for this lifetime. And that is all it ever was or is.

With lots of earth (5 planets + Asc) and Saturn influence (Sun conjunct/parallel Saturn, Moon/Cap and Asc/Virgo trine Saturn) I have a tendency to be too somber and take life seriously. That is fine up to a point.

About 10 years ago I read the first two books in the Kryon series that let readers know we can change anything about ourselves or our personalities that we don't like. The key is to understand those things developed as a result of many lifetimes of Earth experience. They can be earthly deviations from the pure Soul you were/are.

I realized that Moon in Capricorn in my birth chart represented colder, unresponsive, self-protecting aspects of my personality that no longer served me. So I began changing towards a more Moon in Libra personality as I began warming up to people again -- really more than ever. I'm still changing in that direction. Changing substantial parts of our personalities takes time -- years, even decades.

I also decided that the narrowness of the Virgo rising personality was not serving me as well as I like, and I wanted to become more like a Sagittarius rising personality. I think that may even take longer for me, but it is in process. I still tend to rely heavily on Virgoan tendencies for some things, but I'm opening up.

I will say that Moon in Capricorn helped me mature earlier with considerations of leadership in my teens. It made me more reserved emotionally and sexually so that I made it out of my teens (and twenties) without heartbreaks I was not ready for.

The challenge is in seeing the middle ground between being all one way or all another. The purpose is to learn balance and in that achieve fullness of expression and fullest experience of life.

Early in my study of astrology (first year or two) I did not like what Robert Pelletier's interpretations of my chart said related to Sun-Saturn, etc. I don't recall them anymore, something related to 'fate' or a sense of not getting a choice in certain things, etc. I just know I had to put astrology and the astral portrait aside for a while and experience life directly. That was also a really good period in my life (age 26-27 / 1996-97). Looking back I was learning a lot, made a lot of female friends, which was a big step forward for me.

Astrology gave me insights about myself, but I also knew I had to keep experiencing life directly, not relying too much on symbolic evaluations.

Since then I've had some Saturn/Pluto transits that were truly difficult. I would not wish them on anyone. Very little could have prepared me for them or for the more recent Uranus-Pluto square hitting my natal Moon for example. But here I am, just fine and in a healthy growing marriage, another thing long time coming for me.

They key is understanding astrological influence helps shape us towards Unconditional Love in all its wisdom, but not as the only influence. We also have the ideals and personal awareness we've developed that stand alone, apart from anything astrological.

A birth chart is not a final act of creation for who we are, but a starting place this lifetime.

What will we do with it?
It's a creative thing.

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Solar_Leo_Queen
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posted May 01, 2017 11:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Solar_Leo_Queen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks so much for all your replies, guys. I was really curious to see if life does unfold to eventually help you get over your difficult placements. I guess you kinda have to be aware your negative side exists in order to combat it. Well, I wish you all the best of luck with your experiences. It's never too early or too late

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teasel
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posted May 02, 2017 02:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't think so, and I don't think it's always a choice. I'm not in the mood to get into it further.

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girlwiththerainysoul
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posted May 02, 2017 03:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for girlwiththerainysoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
looking at myself, I think I was a better person when I was a child

I started getting more cruel than I like to be around the age 19...it was when I met a person who has pluto square my saturn, my pluto is also conjunct their saturn (neither exact), me and this person brought up a lot of dark and nasty sides in each other, which to this day I haven't been able to claim back the innocence I had before meeting them

looking at people around me, I only see people getting more cruel and ruthless, and greedy as they've gotten older

I think only those who have decided to dedicate their lives to servicing others, through their daily activities, whatever it is, turn into nice old people..they become childlike again as they get older

but God forbid if a person chooses to stick with selfishness, they'll turn into overbearing elderlies

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teasel
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posted May 02, 2017 03:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, I'm not on my way to being an overbearing elderly. That made me laugh. I've learned to express anger, rather than holding it in. To set boundaries, rather than let people trample them. In that way, I don't miss some of the softness that I've lost - I still have plenty of that inside of me.

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