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Topic: transits - which one is harder
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curious girl Knowflake Posts: 123 From: Registered: Jul 2012
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posted May 01, 2017 12:35 PM
Hi everyone, I have a question that I donīt know the answer for.I have Mars/Pluto conjunction in Libra in 8th house (rule my 9th house), which was already tested by Uranus and Pluto transits. I am happy that it is over, as it has been hell. I also have Venus neer this conjunction, in Libra, in 8th and it is the ruler of these two (Taurus on the cusps of my 3rd house and Libra intercepted in my 8th). Uranus oposition to my Venus is also over. Now in two years I will have Pluto square Venus transit which is said to be dreadful. We had couple of deaths in the family - male members, we moved 3 times, our relationship is in ruins. My question is if the Pluto transit to Venus can be worse than what I have already gone through. Natal aspects: Mars/Pluto Libra conjunction sextiles Neptune. Venus Libra sextile Mercury Leo, square Black Moon Lilith in Cancer and wider square to Jupiter in Cancer. Thank you. https://ibb.co/dHSDGQ
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Kannon McAfee Moderator Posts: 2282 From: Portland, OR - USA Registered: Oct 2011
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posted May 01, 2017 04:38 PM
Actually, I don't consider Uranus to be out of range of conjunction to your natal Venus. Uranus 25ARI28 now is still very much opposite Venus at 23LIB00. I use an orb of 4-5° for transits. But it has certainly left its opposition to your Mars.The answer is that once Uranus has left the transit configuration to your natal Mars-Venus, things should clarify a bit, so that should allow the transit to get a bit easier. Combined Uranus-Pluto transits can be very disruptive, a real challenge to maintain balance. Hard Uranus-Pluto transits can feel complicated, like so much is out of your control, making it very hard to work through the issues rationally or one-by-one, since so many can be presented during that time of disruption. You still have some time to go with the Pluto transit square natal Mars (until early 2019 using a 5° orb). And a couple more years of its transit to natal Venus after that. Consider the focal point of Pluto's transit to your chart right now seen in the declinations. Pluto [21S12] is parallel natal Neptune [21S14], which is a period of transformation of your perception, spiritual growth, deepening of your imagination and/or creative perspective. Robert Hand describes this well on page 514 of his book Planets in Transit, Pluto conjunct Neptune [the parallel is interpreted in the same way]: quote:
This transit signifies a period of deep inward transformation that will be reflected in changed ideals, goals and many other aspects of your world view... You will find it necessary to question very deeply many beliefs you have held as a matter of course all your life. But at least you will not be alone, for this is one of the transits that affects everyone in one age group at the same time. In fact, the need to change your ideals may come through your peer group...
How hard the remainder of this transit is for you probably depends on your ability to enact the appropriate changes in these personal ideals and beliefs so that you can gain new spiritual life. Hand also recommends getting assistance from someone older who is not currently going through this same transit. That way their perspective is not similarly affected by the process. Study of astrology, metaphysics and/or depth psychology can help you better understand yourself and your life. Just don't leave it abstract. Make it practical and applicable. In fact, you have already been through this transit in the form of the conjunction (2000-04). Consider the changes in beliefs or expectations you experienced then. Look at this period similarly, expect possibly with much more real world testing since the transit is occurring simultaneous with Pluto's square to natal Mars-Venus. ------------------ The Declinations Guy Rising Sign Descriptions ♈ ♉ ♊ ♋ ♌ ♍ ♎ ♏ ♐ ♑ ♒ ♓ IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 6623 From: Registered: Sep 2014
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posted May 01, 2017 10:56 PM
quote: Originally posted by Kannon McAfee: Actually, I don't consider Uranus to be out of range of conjunction to your natal Venus. Uranus 25ARI28 now is still very much opposite Venus at 23LIB00. I use an orb of 4-5° for transits.
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curious girl Knowflake Posts: 123 From: Registered: Jul 2012
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posted May 02, 2017 11:00 AM
quote: Originally posted by Kannon McAfee: Actually, I don't consider Uranus to be out of range of conjunction to your natal Venus. Uranus 25ARI28 now is still very much opposite Venus at 23LIB00. I use an orb of 4-5° for transits. But it has certainly left its opposition to your Mars.
Thank you Kannon. Do you consider waxing/wanning aspects? quote: The answer is that once Uranus has left the transit configuration to your natal Mars-Venus, things should clarify a bit, so that should allow the transit to get a bit easier. Combined Uranus-Pluto transits can be very disruptive, a real challenge to maintain balance. Hard Uranus-Pluto transits can feel complicated, like so much is out of your control, making it very hard to work through the issues rationally or one-by-one, since so many can be presented during that time of disruption.[/B]
I hope things will be easier. Uranus on Mars/Pluto was very active, but things got quite bad last summer (exact Pluto to Pluto, Uranus to Venus) and culminated this January, where Uranus was away from exactness and the same for Pluto. Actually, it was 17 January, when Uranus formed trine to my Mercury, Jupiter conjcunted Venus and Saturn sextiled Venus and my husband told me that we need to split up... So strange with pleasing aspects... I donīt understand. quote: You still have some time to go with the Pluto transit square natal Mars (until early 2019 using a 5° orb). And a couple more years of its transit to natal Venus after that. Consider the focal point of Pluto's transit to your chart right now seen in the declinations. Pluto [21S12] is parallel natal Neptune [21S14], which is a period of transformation of your perception, spiritual growth, deepening of your imagination and/or creative perspective. Robert Hand describes this well on page 514 of his book Planets in Transit, Pluto conjunct Neptune [the parallel is interpreted in the same way]: How hard the remainder of this transit is for you probably depends on your ability to enact the appropriate changes in these personal ideals and beliefs so that you can gain new spiritual life. Hand also recommends getting assistance from someone older who is not currently going through this same transit. That way their perspective is not similarly affected by the process. Study of astrology, metaphysics and/or depth psychology can help you better understand yourself and your life. Just don't leave it abstract. Make it practical and applicable. In fact, you have already been through this transit in the form of the conjunction (2000-04). Consider the changes in beliefs or expectations you experienced then. Look at this period similarly, expect possibly with much more real world testing since the transit is occurring simultaneous with Pluto's square to natal Mars-Venus.[/B]
This is so very true... it leads me more and more into spirituality as if has been the only way out of this and not to get mad. IP: Logged |
Kannon McAfee Moderator Posts: 2282 From: Portland, OR - USA Registered: Oct 2011
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posted May 02, 2017 02:22 PM
I consider everything about a planet's movement. But you should know transits don't necessarily show their peak effect in your life (decisions, developments) when the transit itself is tightest. Sometimes it comes when the transit is separating. All astrological influences work in aggregate, not singly.------------------ The Declinations Guy Rising Sign Descriptions ♈ ♉ ♊ ♋ ♌ ♍ ♎ ♏ ♐ ♑ ♒ ♓ IP: Logged |
curious girl Knowflake Posts: 123 From: Registered: Jul 2012
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posted May 03, 2017 04:47 AM
quote: Originally posted by Kannon McAfee: I consider everything about a planet's movement. But you should know transits don't necessarily show their peak effect in your life (decisions, developments) when the transit itself is tightest. Sometimes it comes when the transit is separating. All astrological influences work in aggregate, not singly.
I wasnt aware that transits can have also influence after its peak... New experience to me that when everything should have gone smoother with trines and sextiles it actually went wrong from the subjective point of view. IP: Logged | |