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posted May 08, 2017 06:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Empty Spaces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My chart have strong masculine energy and even though I have a hard shell and I seldom cry etc all I want is to feel safe and have someone there for me who take the lead.I have that tradional view of male and female and I strongly feel my venus in pisces.

How do you feel?
What kind of man/relationship you seek?

Everyone is welcome to leave a comment about it too,of course

Please don't quote

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LaceyLeigh
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posted May 08, 2017 06:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LaceyLeigh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello, I also have a pretty masculine chart. Made up of mostly fire.

I wrestle with wanting someone to see me as their equal, but also wanting someone to be a bit protective of me.

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posted May 08, 2017 06:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Empty Spaces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for sharing Lacey

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PixieJane
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posted May 08, 2017 09:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Leo ASC, 3H Libra sun and stellium, and 5H Sag and stellium. Only 4H Scorpio Jupiter is female.

I come from a place where even girls weren't supposed to cry (much). And to admit to being hurt was to invite more to hurt you rather than getting some Oprah-like hug (and some would say that it was a sign that God didn't think you were worth taking care of), nor were lawyers of much use (so no suing over some wrong), so one generally worked hard to show a tough exterior, at least to the public regardless of your gender (women weren't quite as restricted as men in this matter, but they generally leaned this way as well).

As for myself, I got shunned by girls at age 6 and thus mostly mixed with boys until I was 10, and I'm sure that had an affect on me (from the media I indulged in to just interacting as "one of the boys"). Even after I got to mixing with other girls again I found it easy to be friends with males, and because I got along with males so well the other girls tended to be jealous and threatened by me which caused most of them to continue to shun me.

I do not have the traditional view of male and female dynamics, and glad for it. My mother has a view that a woman's only strength is her physical body (looks, etc) and that it's a man's world, and it has severely limited her and her potential, and made her life even more painful than it had to be. I've also seen women suffer because they take a more passive role (and hoping others take care of it or even rescue her), and don't want to make that mistake.

That said...I generally don't have a hard time crying. I can cry over a cartoon (again with my background, I don't expect people to give me a hug as I cry, and while it's allowed, even appreciated at times, it's not something I require). I can and will put off crying if I can't afford it at the moment, however. (And is crying unmanly anyway? Because that was something Glenn Beck did a lot on FOX News and it seemed to appeal to his audience. I know plenty of men wish they could cry more, however, which some find difficult even when they feel in a safe enough space to do so.)

I have adapted to many forms of relationships (and after one is over I seek something new rather than a repeat of what I had last time, even if it ended amicably). This includes establishing what is my "sphere of influence" and what is my partners, and getting each other's input is also expected. I want a partner, not a parental figure, and that means we're roughly equal with concessions to each other.

I had one very masculine girlfriend (Aries sun, ASC, stellium, with many Sag planets as well) who was dominant, but I bucked her many ways throughout the years we had together (I suspect she'd have hated it if I truly submitted to her, as that would make me boring to her). I had one very submissive male that I had a fling with for about 6 months that was fun (both of us were 19 and still experimenting with the people we wanted to be as well as sexually, and that he was a pretty boy who spent more time on his appearance than I did cracked me up), and in retrospect I think had I chosen a polyamorous path over a monogamous one then he and I could still be together today. But my "domination" of him was very much like a protective big sister, and I took his desires into account when deciding what we'd do next. What I loved best about him was his outrageous sense of humor...he brought me to tears from laughing so hard (like me, he had a lot of Sag in his chart).

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posted May 08, 2017 09:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think another factor for me, though, is that I raised myself on a lot of scifi and fantasy in which gender roles were typically muted, and romance was usually on the side, a woman's identity more on what she did than who she was dating or married to.

And I recall the first book featuring a romance that I loved called The Cat Who Wished to Be a Man when I was about 9-10, and I read that one over and over for years. In it, the man is formerly the cat of a wizard transformed into a man who then goes to a town where he stays at the inn owned by Gillian, a tough woman who is resisting the corrupt mayor trying to take her inn. A scene that moved me every time I read it is where Lionel (the cat turned into a man) is kidnapped by thugs hired by the major, wrapped in a sack and tossed into the river. Lionel is able to get at the magic wishbone his wizard owner had given him and he thought of all the love that wizard gave him, eager to escape the brutal human civilization, but as he breaks the bone he instead wishes to be with Gillian...and then finds himself having to save her from a fire set by the same thugs (though Gillian saved him other times as well).

They end up in a relationship, and rather than him taking her to some castle or manor, they live in the inn SHE owns, and he pretty much is an easy going sweetie who goes along with whatever she wants (though he expresses his own desires). And that story was how I came to picture romance over and over again that surely has influenced me as an adult while other girls were reading about beasts & bad boys turned into princes by the enduring love of the protagonist, or wealthy and powerful father figures to whisk them away, which trained their minds to picture romance in a different way than I did.

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posted May 08, 2017 10:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Empty Spaces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for sharing Pixie,I'm glad to hear how is it for you

Just clarifying...I don't want a father lol that reminds me women calling their boyfriends "daaaddy" by the way

and I also don't expect man to handle everything alone (like financially) etc

I love my free space (in fact I needed it in order to breathe) and I want to have my own life and goals for sure and I want him to have his own life as well but I just don't like to be always the supportive one,the one who take the reigns of the relationship you know?and I feel like I attract those types.The ones who want me to take that role! Although I'm though a like to be protected for a while and I like feeling safe.

I think I should say I would like a more equal relationship then right? and not a 8 or 80 relationship especially not one when I'm the man lol

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posted May 10, 2017 12:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for girlwiththerainysoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Masculine placements in my chart are the AC, Mercury, jupiter and saturn (also vertex and a bunch of asteroids like juno, vesta and ceres)

the placements that I attract and am attracted to the most are capricorn. My cap north node, saturn on dc, sun in the 10th and cancer venus and mars create these strong attractions for capricorn sun, moon, ac, venus and mars...2 rlships with saturn in the 1st people also were influential in my life

I'm very very attacted to the cold/classy vibe that caps give off...it's the biggest turn on for me, and yes I consider them daddies and I have yet to find a man who comes off daddy like at first and stays like that (for the most part!)...my own father is a very childish person (he was the last born and my grandmother spoiled him as a child)

My first big love at 16, was a pisces sun (opp my mother's sun, exact) with cap venus and mars

second biggest love at 24, a taurus sun (opposite my fathers' s sun, not exact) with pisces AC and saturn conjunct AC (also conjunct my moon with a tight orb)

Third biggest love at 25, a pisces sun (conjunct my moon, tight orb) with a cap AC (conjunct my node)

Someone I dated from 19 to 22 and almost married has saturn in 1st and nothingin cap but neptune

2 close male friends both have cap moons, so does my cousin whom I consider a brother I don't have

my first famous person crush at age 8-9 was Enrique Iglesias, taurus sun (opposite my father's sun, not exact)

Second one, at age 10, the king of pop MJ, virgo sun (conjunct my mother's, not exact), pisces AC and moon...it's so funny I dated three people with suns around this degree!

I have pisces moon and taurus sun, and think that when it comes to feelings of pure and unconditional love, my sun and moon signs play the biggest part

but for an enduring rlship where I want to feel secure, I need the person to have prominent cap/saturn...even those three big loves as well as the celeb crushes all have prominent saturns

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Soulsjourney
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posted May 10, 2017 01:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soulsjourney     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am mostly fire and air, and in 5th and 7th house, and Gemini rising, MC in Aquarius.

I find that my thinking style and my self-imagine is very gender neutral. I don't particularly dress female or male...short of in the middle.

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