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soren
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posted May 15, 2017 07:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Snow Dragon:
Its not a little eclipse. its a portal with the sun, moon, earth, and black hole in the center of the galaxy.

i didn't know magical portals opened up like that. can you explain the science behind it?

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posted May 15, 2017 07:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
and no other numerical of the set (where the other ages begin) have an exact solar eclipse. just 1.

so apart from that, you're evidence is that the earth and light years of the galaxy are the same 26000 number.

you found one similarity out of 10s of thousands that could be found. how about the diameter of the earth. how about the amount of days winter lasts. how about the distance from the earth to the sun.

just because the moon's diameter is equal to a divisible of 25920, doesnt mean that it magically formed that way.

there's thousands of numbers that can be similar. millions on earth.

so even if those 2 were similar, that doesn't show anything astrological anyway.

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posted May 15, 2017 07:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
width of our galaxy, width of the known universe, distance from our galaxy to another, the amount of time it takes for lava to cool, how long it takes for grass bud to sprout, millions upon millions

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posted May 15, 2017 07:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
so to insinuate 2 similar numbers you found somehow magically corresponds to a great thing taht changes the energy of the whole planet, without any evidence besides taht they are similar numbers, like i said, is not rational, nor have any kind of proof

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posted May 15, 2017 07:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

anyway, i did a tiny bit of research on the dendera subject.

New age pseudo-scientists prescribe a significance for the Dendera Zodiac as grave as that of the Maya Long Count Calendar, which is popularly said to be ticking towards Armageddon in December 2012. One such eccentric is John Lamb Lash, an author and "exponent of the practice of mythology." In an article on his website titled, with Dan Brown-esque flourish, "The Dendera Revelation: Our Moment in the Mythic Order of the Ages," he describes the Dendera Zodiac as a "time-scanning dial," revealing the mythic pattern of humanity's experience over a cycle of 26 millennia, a cycle which is due to end very soon (around the same time as the Maya calendar times out, conveniently enough).

"Densely encoded with myth and historical allusion, this artefact preserves the wisdom of forgotten ancestors who saw into the secrets of time," he adds, quite fancifully. As the end of a 26,000-year cycle approaches, and "endtime triggers" such as mad cow disease and swine flu are flicked, "Dendera decoded can teach us how to live in the present with more wisdom and more wonderment," reckons Lash.

Marc Étienne of the Department of Egyptian Antiquities at the Louvre entertains no such wild and doomy notions. On the Louvre website, he writes that the Dendera Zodiac should be interpreted simply as "a map of the sky rather than a giant horoscope or a perpetual astrological tool."

The great bas-relief freezes, quite literally in stone, a very specific moment for the movements of the heavens, by displaying a certain configuration of the planets among the constellations that occurs only once every thousand years or so. An astrophysicist has dated this point to between 15 June and 15 August 50 BC (further proving just how clever Champollion was in his accurate dating of the zodiac).

hm, so there isnt any info about the center of the galaxy, when the ages actually began, if there was any ages. they mentioned 2 specific dates of a solar and lunar eclipse taht happened. and that is all.

and yet you seemed as if you just found out that a solar eclipse occurs on 2216, as if you didnt know. maybe you didnt. and that date was calculated by some random guy, who said "my calculation of the end count of the denderic zodiac" where there is no end mentioned on the glyph. that glyph you posted is all anyone knows about it.

so his calculations had no validity anyway. and like i said no other solar eclipses occurs on the mulitples of 2160 from that date.

just goes to show you as you research, these random coincedences, don't happen every time. cause that's not how reality works. they happened once and you pin some creation of energy.

even though you are just one person

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anyway i got curious about the true north/south falling into a sign

i was about to check what sign this red dot would fall in, where on the earth what sign would occur right there, but then i realized, the signs arent fixed to earth, they are fixed to an area outside of earth. so the north pole is constantly cycling through the signs like our daily horizon.

so phew. looks like no sign is better. we are all equal

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posted May 15, 2017 09:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
anyway, yes the dates for the dendera zodiac, based from the planets/sun/moon positioned on it, were traced to 2 specific dates, likely dates that occured in the days of its making, showing when it was built. those are both in 50 BC.

so 2077 years ago. the interesting thing is, the western zodiac is moved over a little from the sidereal.

by almost a full 30 degrees.

the stars were set in stone. but when the earth wobbled, the equinox point, (aries) it did line up exactly with the start of aries constellation during this time 2000 years ago.

exactly at the start.

but with the wobbled earth, the equinox point, is now 30 degrees over.

so it's strange, a lot of people believe it's the sun's yearly motion crossing the equator which creates the zodiac.

and the location of this, was exactly, factually, occured right at the aries constellation- but 2000 years ago - when many of the zodiacs encryptions (on stone) were done.

so western astrologers believe it's the aries point (crossing) that makes up the zodiac.

and there's many people that don't believe that, and they think the constellations are what the zodiac is.

but it would be a strange coincedence that the exact starting of the aries constellation, was exactly where the equinox (aries) point (beginning of the zodiac) was 2000 years ago.


so there's 1 of 2 true situations
1) the aries point is actually where the zodiac begins. it was located at the beginning of the aries constellation 2000 years ago, but no longer resides there

2) the constellations are where the signs are. the equator crossing the sun's daily path have no effect of us on earth. but stars thousands of light years away do. and it is a mere coincidence that when the constellations were engraved into stone, (2000 years ago) that the one they had as aries was exactly aligned with the equinox point which was exactly located at aries constellation 2000 years ago. so there is no correlation between the 2.

if 2) was true it would possibly discount all house systems, not to mention foster a unproven account that mere stars connecting in the sky, somehow effect us with an energy.

such as thinking orion over head would give you the energy of a warrior.

where as astrology, believes we feel the planets metaphysically, and the crossing of rings creates some grande energy around us, cross linking signs which are mathematical in their order (fix->cardinal->mutable->fixed-cardinal-mutable--fire-earth-air-water-fire-earth-air-water)

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posted May 15, 2017 10:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Snow Dragon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://grahamhancock.com/harpert1/

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posted May 15, 2017 10:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ok. i learned a couple things. the first thing well i didnt learn but it doesnt seem very impressive that the pyramid alone didn't fit into an earth sized circle, but what they did was cut the moon in half and add that to the height and there it is. doesnt seem that impressive

the next is, the dec 21 2012 (exactly at 0' Cap, found out while debating you earlier) was -1 degree on the galactic plane. (can calculate that using ecliptic-galactic coordinates conversion, galactic is a system)

so maybe that is all that dec 21 2012 meant. a simple "rare" yet to me, unextroardinary event. maybe nothing comes from dec 21 2012 after all.

not sure what else to get from that

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posted May 16, 2017 12:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Article on the topic by the founder of The Astrologer's Forum, Gene Ray:

http://astropost.blogspot.com/2008/06/age-of-aquarius-by-gene-ray.html

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posted May 16, 2017 03:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I was trying to get it through how obvious it seems to me

But didn't quite get there, pursuasive enough

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posted May 16, 2017 03:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So let's use the boundaries for the signs had 2000 years ago (which moved over)

and say they count as ages!

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posted May 16, 2017 10:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Snow Dragon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
you are right nothing significant happened on 12 21 12 at all. the north node was at 24 Scorpio, Sun at 0 Capricorn, Moon in Mid Aries.

The event everyone thought happened will be on 12 21 2215. this is an eclipse with the center of the milky way galaxy.. Sun will be at 28 Sag, Moon 28 Sag, NN 28 Sag, Center of Galaxy 27 Sag.

This event coincides with the shifting of the ages into a different sign. because the eclipse with the black hole in the center of the galaxy with the earth, moon, and sun is going to cause a pole shift.

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posted May 16, 2017 11:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Snow Dragon:

This event coincides with the shifting of the ages into a different sign. because the eclipse with the black hole in the center of the galaxy with the earth, moon, and sun is going to cause a pole shift.


nice logic. that's not how pole shifts shift

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posted May 16, 2017 11:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Snow Dragon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
how do they shift?

the last pole shift occurred 12,757 years ago when there was also an eclipse on the opposite end. which would be late gemini early cancer. it wasn't a solar eclipse, it was a lunar eclipse. this caused the pole shift then.

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posted May 16, 2017 12:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well thanks to my bit of knowledge in shifts, i can call you on your made up information, that you dont have to care to not lie about.

the last geomagnetic pole reversal was 40 000 years ago, as a fact. so sorry, you're made up date you found of a eclipse happening on 27 sag is not useful.

how they shift: The magnetic field of the Earth, and of other planets that have magnetic fields, is generated by dynamo action in which convection of molten iron in the planetary core generates electric currents which in turn give rise to magnetic fields. In simulations of planetary dynamos, reversals often emerge spontaneously from the underlying dynamics. For example, Gary Glatzmaier and collaborator Paul Roberts of UCLA ran a numerical model of the coupling between electromagnetism and fluid dynamics in the Earth's interior. Their simulation reproduced key features of the magnetic field over more than 40,000 years of simulated time and the computer-generated field reversed itself. Global field reversals at irregular intervals have also been observed in the laboratory liquid metal experiment "VKS2".

In some simulations, this leads to an instability in which the magnetic field spontaneously flips over into the opposite orientation. This scenario is supported by observations of the solar magnetic field, which undergoes spontaneous reversals every 9–12 years. However, with the Sun it is observed that the solar magnetic intensity greatly increases during a reversal, whereas reversals on Earth seem to occur during periods of low field strength.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geomagnetic_reversal

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posted May 16, 2017 12:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Snow Dragon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Soren, you are delusional. I am not making up anything, in fact you are. You cannot prove anything you are saying and are even going as far as to say ages don't exist when they do.


There was a global cataclysm in 10500 BC that is the same time frame I was referring to. This is a fact. The cataclysm was caused by a pole shift.

http://grahamhancock.com/phorum/read.php?1,245950,246379

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posted May 16, 2017 12:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
explain what a pole shift is

usually it refers to geomagnetic reversal. the reversal of the poles.

but wiki refers to it as a change of location of the geographical (square the equator) poles.

see:
The cataclysmic pole shift hypothesis suggests that there have been geologically rapid shifts in the relative positions of the modern-day geographic locations of the poles and the axis of rotation of the Earth, creating calamities such as floods and tectonic events.

There is evidence of precession and changes in axial tilt, but this change is on much longer time-scales and does not involve relative motion of the spin axis with respect to the planet. However, in what is known as true polar wander, the solid Earth can rotate with respect to a fixed spin axis. Research shows that during the last 200 million years a total true polar wander of some 30° has occurred, but that no super-rapid shifts in the Earth's pole were found during this period.
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here's something from your link:
"Ice Age Terminated by Pole Shift?

With the work of Dr Flavio Barbiero demonstrating how even a small asteroid impact striking one of the Earth's oceans can result in a shift of the Earth's axis, might it not be possible that such an occurrence took place circa 10,500BCE? Could this be the very same impact event that Firestone, West and Warwick-Smith are finding evidence of?"

so they are questioning what caused the ice to melt, and saying, maybe it was a pole shift from an asteroid hitting the earth

wow great evidence. i have evidence. i didn't necessarily say astrological ages didnt occur. i said if you believe the constellations aren't actually the signs,

then there is no astrology ages

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posted May 16, 2017 01:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i feel bad for the people who get their info from you cause it's all theoretical ideas yet you put it off as facts

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posted May 16, 2017 01:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Snow Dragon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7gxD38uxxw&t=4s

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posted May 16, 2017 01:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
so: the sphynx aligns exactly with the stars of the leo constellation, and that was made in 10500 BC.

they also have their 3 pyramids align with orions belt, which only aligns, in 10500 BC

10500 BC was 4.86 astro ages ago, which would have likely fell in cancer, but nevermind, that doesnt matte

the dendera zodiac of egypt, which has planets and 12 signs, was made in 50 BC (2000 years ago)

this is likely when they started believing in astrology.

this is when it became known somewhat worldwide thanks to babylonians learning it from egyptians, and spreading it 2400-2000 years ago.

just because the sphinx aligned with the leo constellation, doesnt mean anything. there is no proof.

it's an idea.

i made this thread because i thought the poles physically fell in the equinox signs. but then i realized that's impossible, as the signs are made from the earth's equator, meaning they are fixed to the EARTH itself. if the poles moved, then thus the equator moves over, then thus, the signs fixed to the equator itself, move, thus they are still at the same reference point to the poles.

i made this because i just found out that an age occurs by equinox points falling into a constellation... and judging by my drawing a few posts up, the constellations, are very very unlikely the signs.

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