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Topic: Astrology of Netflix’s 13 Reasons Why Main characters
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Astrofiend Knowflake Posts: 234 From: Registered: May 2017
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posted May 19, 2017 04:35 PM
Here's my take on the astrology of Netflix’s 13 Reasons Why two main characters. I have a blog post explaining my reasons why check it out: Hannah Libra sun Pisces Moon Cancer Rising Mars Water Mars such as Mars in Scorpio or Pisces or “Libra Mars Aspects: Mars square Pluto or Mars square Neptune Clay Sun in Capricorn
Mercury in Scorpio Mars and Venus in Aquarius Earth Moon: Capricorn, Taurus, or Virgo. Maybe Leo moon Others Characters Signs (don’t remember most of their names, so I gave them nicknames which are better). Army Brat “BFF” Who Slapped Her- Pisces Cheri- Libra Rapist Jock- Aries Asian Leso girl- Virgo Bleach blonde- Scorpio Whiny ***** boy Mom's a Methhead Jock- Scorpio Little Felipe- Sagittarius Black kid with wide head and Egyptian eyebrows- Capricorn Rude Gay Capote wannabe dude- Leo Future school shooter camboy-Gemini Asian jock- Aquarius If you are interested in knowing my reasons why for Clay and Hannah, check out my blog. ------------------ Hi everyone, I am blogger known as Astrofiend or @strofiend Here’s my blog link: https://theastrofiend.blogspot.com/ I also have a Facebook page. If you like this blog and wanna follow me on Facebook search for Theastrofiend IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 11321 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 19, 2017 04:51 PM
The rapist isn't an Aries. I knew someone would list him as such, though. :/I could see Hannah being an Aries, actually. IP: Logged |
polkadotstars Knowflake Posts: 1143 From: Registered: Feb 2015
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posted May 19, 2017 05:22 PM
The girl who played the character who hit the stop sign is a Pisces. I saw her Pisces tattoo in the show IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 11321 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 19, 2017 10:51 PM
Katherine Langford is a Taurus, according to IMDB. Dylan Minnette a Capricorn. I can see those fitting both characters. The actor who plays Zach is a Taurus. That one actor is an Aries, but the character - nah. I just hate that Aries gets lumped with that, when any sign can do what he did, can be aggressive. You might want to be wary of spoilers, as well. IP: Logged |
Astrofiend Knowflake Posts: 234 From: Registered: May 2017
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posted May 23, 2017 05:54 AM
@teasel:Why do you see Hannah as an Aries? I googled the main characters signs. I was a little bit surprised by the actress that plays Hannah's sign I thought she'll be a Cancer or Libra. I thought the actor that plays Clay would be Scorpio. I saw Capricorn and I thought it really fits his sign so kept it. I don't see sun sign Taurus alone as a suicidal sign. In my opinion I see the rapist as an Aries. It's funny because the actor (Justin Prentice) that plays the rapist is an Aries in real life. I normally hate when Aries gets lumped into stuff being an Aries myself but sometimes the shoe fits. #stereotypes.
------------------ Hi everyone, I am blogger known as Astrofiend or @strofiend Here’s my blog link: http://theastrofiend.blogspot.com/ I also have a Facebook page. If you like this blog and wanna follow me on Facebook search for Theastrofiend IP: Logged |
Astrofiend Knowflake Posts: 234 From: Registered: May 2017
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posted May 23, 2017 05:56 AM
quote: Originally posted by polkadotstars: The girl who played the character who hit the stop sign is a Pisces. I saw her Pisces tattoo in the show
I missed that! IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 11321 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 23, 2017 10:04 AM
quote: Originally posted by Astrofiend: @teasel:Why do you see Hannah as an Aries? I googled the main characters signs. I was a little bit surprised by the actress that plays Hannah's sign I thought she'll be a Cancer or Libra. I thought the actor that plays Clay would be Scorpio. I saw Capricorn and I thought it really fits his sign so kept it. I don't see sun sign Taurus alone as a suicidal sign. In my opinion I see the rapist as an Aries. It's funny because the actor (Justin Prentice) that plays the rapist is an Aries in real life. I normally hate when Aries gets lumped into stuff being an Aries myself but sometimes the shoe fits. #stereotypes.
Because Aries aren't jock douchebags. I've known more aggressive Capricorns, Sagittarians, even Libra. A member of my family was raped by a Libra. Rape comes from insecurity, and a need for power.
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Astrofiend Knowflake Posts: 234 From: Registered: May 2017
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posted May 23, 2017 10:27 AM
quote: Originally posted by teasel: Because Aries aren't jock douchebags. I've known more aggressive Capricorns, Sagittarians, even Libra. A member of my family was raped by a Libra. Rape comes from insecurity, and a need for power.
@teasel: You know I am talking about a FICTIONAL SHOW AND A FICTIONAL CHARACTER RIGHT? IN THIS CASE I STICK BY WHAT I SAID. IF YOU WANT TO TALK ASTROLOGY GO AHEAD. IF YOU DON'T THAT'S UP TO YOU.
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bananaz Knowflake Posts: 900 From: Orlando, FL USA Registered: Feb 2015
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posted May 23, 2017 11:29 AM
Yes, it's a fictional show, but unless you're also talking about fictional astrology, then teasel makes a good point. Aries doesn't define the energy of rape. Maybe a plutonian affliction. But I actually saw the guy as more of a Sag.I agree with your assessment of the Libra sun for Hannah though. Her core needs were not being met, and Libra needs relationships. IP: Logged |
Astrofiend Knowflake Posts: 234 From: Registered: May 2017
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posted May 23, 2017 11:43 AM
@teasel and @bananaz: let's get one thing straight. I never said that Aries is a "jock douchebags" nor that Aries define the energy of rape.I said that I saw the Raptist Jock an an Aries. That's my assessment of the character's sign who happens to be played by an actual Aries. This is literally all I said You guys are really annoying me, putting words in my mouth. It's one thing to disagree it's another thing to jump to wild conclusions and assumptions IP: Logged |
Empty Spaces Knowflake Posts: 1949 From: Registered: Jun 2015
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posted May 23, 2017 12:12 PM
It is sad to see what the message from this show became! People turned Hanna into the villain! Definitely many ain't prepared to deal with the word "suicide",there's absolutely no understading.(I saw many blaming her,surreal) I see Hanna as pisces moon too/ still thinking about the sun sign. I see clay as sun in pisces or sun in cancer Earth moon IP: Logged |
bananaz Knowflake Posts: 900 From: Orlando, FL USA Registered: Feb 2015
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posted May 23, 2017 12:19 PM
Whoops, sorry astro. Sometimes I read too fast and miss things. Assumed the assessment was based on stereotyping of that one event. He may be an Aries, but I still see his character as Sag. IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 11321 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 23, 2017 12:24 PM
quote: Originally posted by Astrofiend: @teasel and @bananaz: let's get one thing straight. I never said that Aries is a "jock douchebags" nor that Aries define the energy of rape.I said that I saw the Raptist Jock an an Aries. That's my assessment of the character's sign who happens to be played by an actual Aries. This is literally all I said You guys are really annoying me, putting words in my mouth. It's one thing to disagree it's another thing to jump to wild conclusions and assumptions
And you annoyed me with this response. I said the character was a jock douchebag, and that he didn't act like Aries I know (including myself). Thanks, Bananaz, for your comment above. IP: Logged |
Astrofiend Knowflake Posts: 234 From: Registered: May 2017
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posted May 23, 2017 12:42 PM
@Empty Spaces:Hannah's character was very nuanced. I would say in a lot of ways I was annoyed by her actions but I also definitely didn't see her as a villain. It's too complex for that In the last tape she definitely acknowledged her role and responsibility in her death. I think people just saw the tapes as petty and revengy. Ultimately it was her decision and I guess for that reason people vilify her I could definitely see Clay as Cancer/ Cardinal Sun too IP: Logged |
Astrofiend Knowflake Posts: 234 From: Registered: May 2017
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posted May 23, 2017 12:46 PM
@bananaz: It's all good. It's nice that we can have a civilized discussion. Though my first choice for the rapist jock is ARIES. I can definitely see Sag or even Leo as a possible sun sign.
I picked Aries because of that scene where he quickly gets mad then beats Clay up and then proceeds to offer him a drink, which was kinda funny. I guess I am picking up on the actor energy who's an actual Aries. Perhaps the actor is subconsciously projecting his Aries sun onto his character. IP: Logged |
polkadotstars Knowflake Posts: 1143 From: Registered: Feb 2015
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posted May 23, 2017 01:13 PM
I could see Hannah as having a Pisces moon. She's very sensitive. At times I'd get annoyed at how sensitive and dramatic she would be. I feel like she would get hurt if someone even looked at her wrong. Clay- def Capricorn vibe. Alex- Aqua IP: Logged |
Astrofiend Knowflake Posts: 234 From: Registered: May 2017
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posted May 23, 2017 02:36 PM
@polkadotstars: Yea I was annoyed too. I'm like Hannah girl protect yourself, protect your energy. I got Venus in Pisces and Moon sextile Neptune so I kinda get her sensitivity but still she's on some next level shite that my Aries sun conjunct Mercury and Scorpio moon don’t get.I can see Alex as an Aquarius too. He looks very different and when I first saw him I thought he’ll be their gay friend. I chose Scorpio cuss he's very emotional and self aware. Plus he was tryna get revenge on Jessica for not giving him sex by messing with Hannah and making Jessica jealous of Hannah. Which is pretty dirty/dark Why do you see him as an Aquarius?
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polkadotstars Knowflake Posts: 1143 From: Registered: Feb 2015
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posted May 23, 2017 11:44 PM
I saw him as an Aqua because he seemed happy being a loner in the beginning. Additionally, he was very different with his style. Once he becomes popular with the in crowd, he seems to fit in fine, but he starts standing up for other's rights (humanitarian almost). Sure, he's a jerk, but he comes around to realizing it and flsesnt mind going against the grain to stand up for someone. Maybe he has a Scorpio moon? IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 11321 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 24, 2017 12:13 AM
quote: Originally posted by Astrofiend:
I picked Aries because of that scene where he quickly gets mad then beats Clay up and then proceeds to offer him a drink, which was kinda funny. I guess I am picking up on the actor energy who's an actual Aries. Perhaps the actor is subconsciously projecting his Aries sun onto his character.
If you'd said that in the first place, I would have seen your point. I was being civilized. Still am. I can relate a lot to Hannah, and dropped out of school, instead of killing myself. I'm an Aries with Mars in Pisces. Scorpio ascendant. I still deal with suicidal feelings. I saw myself in her, because I remember mum thinking I was handling things. She didn't know what was going on, but she figured something was, but that I was also handling it. That's what she told me. Hannah keeps trying, keeps getting to know people, tries to explain when someone really hurts her (writes it out, as I would), and then gets hurt when he has no reaction. She still keeps trying. Her friends move on to different circles, still tries, once she's over the initial hurt. Until things get so bad, and she talks to someone - and then, you know what happens. I haven't been raped, but I've been at that point. People keep calling her overly-sensitive - she dealt with it over and over, and was eventually shown to not be the only one struggling with something. She wasn't the only one who was self-destructive, but as she took it all on herself, the others punished her (and others), lashed out, and so on. She didn't just disappear: she made the tapes, so that people would understand why. They didn't care when she was alive, or didn't seem to. They just brushed her off, mocked her, spread lies about her, got angry with her for being so upset over things they deemed to be small (because it wasn't happening to them). You're ignoring me? Explanation from an actual suicidal person, and you're all "who cares?" IP: Logged |
Astrofiend Knowflake Posts: 234 From: Registered: May 2017
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posted May 24, 2017 12:52 AM
@polkadotstars: Yea I can see where you are coming from. He does rebel from the group towards the end.Aquarius with Scorpio Moon, sounds like The Weeknd Perhaps Scorpio with Aquarius Moon. Who knows if there's a second season we can figure it out! IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 11321 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 24, 2017 01:01 AM
See explanation above. IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 8583 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted May 28, 2017 09:41 PM
I totallly agree Hannah has to have cancer placements...She reminds me a lot of my best friend from highschool who was a sun cancer with moon in scorpio and scorpio rising with mars in cancer. I should look at the chart of the actress that plays her... Turns out she does not have any cancer placements, only lilith in cancer BUT if we knew her time of birth is possible she can have some things falling in her 4th house. Clay does feel like he has saturn influence with some aqua placements, I definitely sense he has an important saturn aspect in his chart with one Aquarius placement is my guess. IP: Logged |
Astrofiend Knowflake Posts: 234 From: Registered: May 2017
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posted May 30, 2017 06:56 AM
quote: Originally posted by hypatia238: I totallly agree Hannah has to have cancer placements...She reminds me a lot of my best friend from highschool who was a sun cancer with moon in scorpio and scorpio rising with mars in cancer. I should look at the chart of the actress that plays her... Turns out she does not have any cancer placements, only lilith in cancer BUT if we knew her time of birth is possible she can have some things falling in her 4th house. Clay does feel like he has saturn influence with some aqua placements, I definitely sense he has an important saturn aspect in his chart with one Aquarius placement is my guess.
Well Lilith in Cancer counts for something, also we still don't know her rising sign/tob. I did guessed that Hannah may have Mars square Neptune, and I am looking at Katherine Langford's chart on astrotheme for the first time and surprisingly she has Mars square Neptune. Btw Mars in Cancer can be impulsive, being cardinal water. IP: Logged |
PixieJane Moderator Posts: 9218 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted April 14, 2018 09:16 PM
Skipping the rant on the terrible writing and characters or how this show is gratuitous rather than genuinely helpful (and how I'm certain the screenwriter hasn't interacted with a teen save in the most superficial ways since he was one himself), I'll just say that it does not strike me as Libra to be so aggressively vindictive even in death, out the victim of a sexual assault (Jessica--speaking of which, a Libra is not spineless and plenty would intervene, and if he or she did not, then Libra wouldn't be out to blame others for the same inaction) in a way no one would forget (and I see it as a big FU to Jessica as much as everyone else), and leave such a gory corpse (unless that was part of her revenge as opposed to her escape or illness). She keeps telling Clay to leave and after like the fifth time he does. I'd think a Libra trait would be to see that as respectful, not want to take vengeance because he didn't divine what she really wanted (disrespecting her in the process by saying she didn't what she wanted, but he did). What a terrible message that women don't mean what they say and that you better ignore her words or you're a terrible person. While I can see some people saying that a man should ignore a woman's words and second guess everything she says, I'd like to think the default Libra position is not to be that unfair or desiring others to disrespect her by telling her he knows what she wants more than she herself does. (Sure, she cuts him some slack overall, but getting into him for that doesn't strike me as Libra.) x You know who I could see as a Libra? Veronica in the original Heathers movie (not the musical, and definitely not the new series, at least not so far). She had more of a Libra vibe to me with the way she talks, what she does (including her cruelty and vindictiveness and sometimes self-destructiveness) and why she does it, her loyalties to different groups at the same time that cause conflict and trouble, her way of writing, her behavior reminds me of how Libras can be a calm in a sea of chaos one moment and be freaking out over something small the next (it all depends on the internal Scales), and her thinly veiled rationalizations that even she can admit are BS after awhile at which point she tries to make amends if she can do so without ruining herself. The only discordant note for Veronica as Libra that I can think of offhand is that it defies many teen movies where the girl "wins" by scoring the unattainable guy and instead (finally) ejects the loser from her life (though Libra Bonnie didn't do that), which is one of the reasons I like that movie...but I think Libra's need for a romantic pairing is way overrated. I certainly have less need of one than the vast majority who post at LL, and you'll never hear me moaning in angst about not having a twin flame. (As a final note, I'm not saying Heathers was realistic, and it definitely leaned on metaphor...but it was a hell a lot closer to realistic than 13RW.) IP: Logged |
Sulkyarcher Knowflake Posts: 1635 From: Registered: Dec 2013
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posted April 14, 2018 09:59 PM
quote: Originally posted by PixieJane: Skipping the rant on the terrible writing and characters or how this show is gratuitous rather than genuinely helpful (and how I'm certain the screenwriter hasn't interacted with a teen save in the most superficial ways since he was one himself), I'll just say that it does not strike me as Libra to be so aggressively vindictive even in death, out the victim of a sexual assault (Jessica--speaking of which, a Libra is not spineless and plenty would intervene, and if he or she did not, then Libra wouldn't be out to blame others for the same inaction) in a way no one would forget (and I see it as a big FU to Jessica as much as everyone else), and leave such a gory corpse (unless that was part of her revenge as opposed to her escape or illness). She keeps telling Clay to leave and after like the fifth time he does. I'd think a Libra trait would be to see that as respectful, not want to take vengeance because he didn't divine what she really wanted (disrespecting her in the process by saying she didn't what she wanted, but he did). What a terrible message that women don't mean what they say and that you better ignore her words or you're a terrible person. While I can see some people saying that a man should ignore a woman's words and second guess everything she says, I'd like to think the default Libra position is not to be that unfair or desiring others to disrespect her by telling her he knows what she wants more than she herself does. (Sure, she cuts him some slack overall, but getting into him for that doesn't strike me as Libra.) x You know who I could see as a Libra? Veronica in the original Heathers movie (not the musical, and definitely not the new series, at least not so far). She had more of a Libra vibe to me with the way she talks, what she does (including her cruelty and vindictiveness and sometimes self-destructiveness) and why she does it, her loyalties to different groups at the same time that cause conflict and trouble, her way of writing, her behavior reminds me of how Libras can be a calm in a sea of chaos one moment and be freaking out over something small the next (it all depends on the internal Scales), and her thinly veiled rationalizations that even she can admit are BS after awhile at which point she tries to make amends if she can do so without ruining herself. The only discordant note for Veronica as Libra that I can think of offhand is that it defies many teen movies where the girl "wins" by scoring the unattainable guy and instead (finally) ejects the loser from her life (though Libra Bonnie didn't do that), which is one of the reasons I like that movie...but I think Libra's need for a romantic pairing is way overrated. I certainly have less need of one than the vast majority who post at LL, and you'll never hear me moaning in angst about not having a twin flame. (As a final note, I'm not saying Heathers was realistic, and it definitely leaned on metaphor...but it was a hell a lot closer to realistic than 13RW.)
I LOVE Heathers. The Veronica character is so Libra, I agree. IP: Logged |