posted June 13, 2017 04:21 AM            

Anyway, I just wanted to open this thread to see what other people think of this aspect and what your experiences are living with this aspect if you carry it in your natal.

ALSO, how does this aspect affect your looks/does it? People tell me I look older lately (i think the square ages you badly)

posted June 13, 2017 06:13 AM            

Its been ok for me. I think it makes me hard(Sat) to please(Ven). So "love" is something i don't quite understand.

posted June 13, 2017 08:59 AM            

Venus in 4th, saturn in 7th (hysterical laughter). It's tough. I have realised that I have made some very very bad decisions in love and have opened myself up to being abused over and over again.

I've now realised this pattern, so I'm working to change it. Being aware and conscious helps you to work (saturn) at change.

Aries23's point about the key to loving yourself is interesting. Self-care is especially difficult for me because there's that inner battle of being worthy which i have doubly reinforced by a near-exact sun-moon square in fixed planets.

I think you'll find sunpixie007 that your saturn return will start shifting things for you in this regard. I see things differently now - I've now had one and a quarter (ie it's just gone square again) - and with every saturn transit, I'm learning more and more.

posted June 13, 2017 01:44 PM            

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Originally posted by florence:
a benefit that shows itself over time, as per Saturn, I've found is having discernment. I've had many heartbreaks but I can look back and be glad - they wouldn't have been right for me,

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posted June 13, 2017 02:22 PM            

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Originally posted by sunpixie007:
The key with this aspect is to learn to love yourself but its like how can one with this aspect love themselves when love itself was starved from them growing up?

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That's the whole point. Elevate your standard and develop your own self-esteem rather than have it given to you.

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I sometimes envy those with charts riddled with easy aspects.

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Trust me, that is almost certainly a biased reading on your part.

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ALSO, how does this aspect affect your looks/does it? People tell me I look older lately (i think the square ages you badly)

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Worry and strain age us badly, not particular astrological aspects.

Venus square Saturn urges us out of superficial values and affections to work on lasting values and deeper self-esteem. It can mean delays in close relationships until priorities are better aligned.

Think of this aspect as one you chose because you desired it for the growth of your soul and to reshape personality to align with it. Because society pushes a superficial standard of beauty and values, it is necessary for many of us to periodically (in some lifetimes) go through this planet combination.

It is a challenge for both love (Venus) and responsibility (Saturn) to press into each other and exert their energies simultaneously. Saturn molds the Venusian, but it is not necessarily a pleasurable process so long as we are focused on the negative or taking it too seriously.

I had only one actual girlfriend before I found my mate at age 39, and I have no Venus-Saturn aspect (just Saturn conjunct Sun, trine Moon/Asc). You still have plenty of time to find a kindred soul.

posted June 13, 2017 03:24 PM            

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Originally posted by florence:
a benefit that shows itself over time, as per Saturn, I've found is having discernment. I've had many heartbreaks but I can look back and be glad - they wouldn't have been right for me,

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Yes to this for sure!

posted June 13, 2017 04:38 PM            

It will drain a lot of effort for you
  I got venus in trine saturn, have bothered me long for feeling that the world was looking to take me and that I did not fit anywhere among people,
But even if it's in my charts I try to ignore it, hoping the best way out than
over thinking

I hope the best for you, and that the good things will appear fast. hug

posted June 14, 2017 12:44 AM            

For reference, I was a late bloomer romantically. Did not have my first long term boyfriend until I was 22. I felt I was unattractive and wondered why it was so hard for me, romantically speaking. And I got to say its all about your outlook and self esteem. Playing the victim card, makes things worse, and if you do find someone, and haven't worked on yourself and boosted your self esteem, you'll make concessions for people that, honestly are not right for you. I've done this repeatedly.

There is no quick fix for feeling pain in regards to romance, it really does take time. And they say that once you have your Saturn return - so ages 28-29, is when things romantically get better with Venus-Saturn hard aspect people.

posted June 14, 2017 09:55 AM            

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
Physical pain suggests you're suppressing affection/feminine self. Look into that, as to how you can relieve yourself of that pressure.

Worry and strain age us badly, not particular astrological aspects.

Venus square Saturn urges us out of superficial values and affections to work on lasting values and deeper self-esteem. It can mean delays in close relationships until priorities are better aligned.

Think of this aspect as one you chose because you desired it for the growth of your soul and to reshape personality to align with it. Because society pushes a superficial standard of beauty and values, it is necessary for many of us to periodically (in some lifetimes) go through this planet combination.

It is a challenge for both love (Venus) and responsibility (Saturn) to press into each other and exert their energies simultaneously. Saturn molds the Venusian, but it is not necessarily a pleasurable process so long as we are focused on the negative or taking it too seriously.

I had only one actual girlfriend before I found my mate at age 39, and I have no Venus-Saturn aspect (just Saturn conjunct Sun, trine Moon/Asc). You still have plenty of time to find a kindred soul.

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Yes to all of this.
I don't have the square, but an easy aspect and I still feel the adverse characteristics of it.

posted June 14, 2017 11:19 AM            

I have the square and I remember feeling the exact same way as you.

Saturn is like a fine wine. It gets better with age. And once you get past all those brutal lessons, it only gets easier to deal with. I KNOW I look better as I get older (currently 31) and Saturn has forced me to deal with a difficult disorder that affected my appearance for YEARS. Now I have overcome that completely.

Sidenote: Haven't you ever noticed how Capricorns get better looking as they get older? That's Saturn!

As far as relationships go, my first "real" adult one didn't start until I was 22. It was kind of mediocre at first, both of us immature. That, too, has only gotten better with age. We're going on 10 years, married with a baby He has Venus conjunct Saturn.

Moral of the story:
Saturn square Venus is hell in your youth. If you master the square, you can master your life.

posted June 14, 2017 11:29 AM            

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Leo Sun/Mercury
Sagittarius Moon
Cancer Venus/Mars/Rising

posted June 14, 2017 02:53 PM            

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Originally posted by bananaz:
DEFINTELY NOT.

I have the square and I remember feeling the exact same way as you.

Saturn is like a fine wine. It gets better with age. And once you get past all those brutal lessons, it only gets easier to deal with. I KNOW I look better as I get older (currently 31) and Saturn has forced me to deal with a difficult disorder that affected my appearance for YEARS. Now I have overcome that completely.

Sidenote: Haven't you ever noticed how Capricorns get better looking as they get older? That's Saturn!

As far as relationships go, my first "real" adult one didn't start until I was 22. It was kind of mediocre at first, both of us immature. That, too, has only gotten better with age. We're going on 10 years, married with a baby He has Venus conjunct Saturn.

Moral of the story:
Saturn square Venus is hell in your youth. If you master the square, you can master your life.

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posted June 14, 2017 04:30 PM            

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Originally posted by sunpixie007:

How did you learn to master it?

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The relationship aspect of Venus square Saturn is its own monster. I remember having those same feelings you described, looking around and wondering how certain couples came to meet, and wondering why it hadn't happened for me yet...

You may have a set of standards you don't realize exist, which is certainly not a bad thing. I believe the "big" relationships are fated/karmic. With Venus Square Saturn, your soul has definitely signed up for a course on relationships. That person or persons is/are coming, trust me. And then once you've found them, the struggle isn't over. You have a whole set of new problems when it comes to learning how to be in a healthy relationship. For me, I had to recognize that I was mimicking my parents in many ways, which was very toxic.

The disorder that affected my appearance is a little more case-specific. I mastered it by stopping my blind trust of the medical industry. I won't go into the details but to sum it up my disorder is classified as a form of OCD. So for years I believed I had mental problems Then after a little research and self-experimentation, I discovered it was food allergies of all things. I eliminated certain foods, got on some good supplements, and found my cure.

posted June 14, 2017 08:45 PM            

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Originally posted by bananaz:
The relationship aspect of Venus square Saturn is its own monster. I remember having those same feelings you described, looking around and wondering how certain couples came to meet, and wondering why it hadn't happened for me yet...

You may have a set of standards you don't realize exist, which is certainly not a bad thing. I believe the "big" relationships are fated/karmic. With Venus Square Saturn, your soul has definitely signed up for a course on relationships. That person or persons is/are coming, trust me. And then once you've found them, the struggle isn't over. You have a whole set of new problems when it comes to learning how to be in a healthy relationship. For me, I had to recognize that I was mimicking my parents in many ways, which was very toxic.

The disorder that affected my appearance is a little more case-specific. I mastered it by stopping my blind trust of the medical industry. I won't go into the details but to sum it up my disorder is classified as a form of OCD. So for years I believed I had mental problems Then after a little research and self-experimentation, I discovered it was food allergies of all things. I eliminated certain foods, got on some good supplements, and found my cure.

The whole thing was very Saturnine. I was so embarrassed/ self-conscious in my teenage years. Now I will openly talk about it which is pretty huge for me.

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