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posted June 17, 2017 01:09 PM            

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What do you guys think of his natal chart!?
http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Escobar,_Pablo

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posted June 17, 2017 01:48 PM            

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He's a fire Sun and Moon. That gives him bravery and confidence to go into that dark world.

Add to that, his Pisces rising, he can 'blend in' and maybe be invisible, for a little while. And maybe this Pisces Ascendant makes him believe there's a mystique to that dark world he chose to be in.

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posted June 17, 2017 02:42 PM            

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Pilot trailor
http://youtu.be/U7elNhHwgBU

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posted June 17, 2017 08:30 PM            

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Well I know three people who have moon in Aries and dream a lot about wars and fighting. I guess instead of dreaming about it he lived a life of violence and a martian moon gave him the balls to take high risks....

His mars which rules his moon conjuncts saturn.... What do you guys think about that??

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posted June 18, 2017 12:38 AM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Well I know three people who have moon in Aries and dream a lot about wars and fighting. I guess instead of dreaming about it he lived a life of violence and a martian moon gave him the balls to take high risks....

His mars which rules his moon conjuncts saturn.... What do you guys think about that??

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Yes! Risks is very Aries!!!

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posted June 18, 2017 03:08 AM            

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I just noticed that he has Uranus unaspected and Uranus is the only planet he has in a water sign, cancer, ruled by moon in aries.

His uranus is disposited by moon in aries in the 2H which is disposited by mars which is disposited by mercury which is disposited by Jupiter, jupiter its last dispositer in aquarius at aries point. Jupiter co rules his chart and MC and is well positioned falling in the 11th house conjunct venus.

I think he thought he was untouchable and that he will never run out of luck.

Uranus unaspected and as a singleton ruled by moon and his moon ruled by mars with jupiter as its last dispositer explain a lot..

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posted June 19, 2017 11:50 AM            

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He has ERIS Conjunct LUCIFER in ARIES by 3d and his ERIS squares his Sun by almost 3d, then add moon in aries.

He has an exact conjunction between BML and his Moon in Aries actually but I don't know if I would attribute his violent nature to BML.

What is fascinating is that he has Ixion conjunct Neptune and Southnode in the 8TH very tight and he become one of the richest men on earth breaking all the rules including murdering many people and making money as a drug dealer.

His mentality, "you are either with me or not and if you are not its war" is very ERIS and Moon in ARIES.

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posted June 19, 2017 12:47 PM            

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I also wonder if his Mars conjunct Saturn in Virgo made it easy for him to rationalize his violence and take the emotion completely out of it.

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posted June 22, 2017 12:28 PM            

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Testing...

So is just the chiron thread that my posts are not posting...must have a glitch.

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posted June 29, 2017 06:06 AM            

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moon in 2nd in aries - stubborn ass , money oriented,luxury lover who does not need anyones advice,he knows the best in his mind.

Him being pisces rising with neptune in libra in 8th is "Pablo Escobar, the narco boss " - narcotics are both pisces and 8th house reon , while libra is his legal buisness...ilegall

Pluto ruler of 9th in 6th in leo - working with foreigners, luxury workplace

Sun and mercury (rulers of 6,7 and 4) in 10th - hes el patron, THE boss - coworkers are family

saturn and mars (rulers of 2 and 11) in 7 - friends are coworkers, money is earned in marrige - friends are his coworkers because of money - social institutions brought to marrige

mother wore the pants in his family,she was money orianted and influenced him twords it (moon in aries in 2nd)

Father absent due to work or remarried ? (sun in sagg in 10 conjunct merc)

oportunistic wife

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posted June 29, 2017 02:24 PM            

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Questionable moral values;
Moon square Jupiter
Moon square Venus

Pluto in 6th can work in dangerous environments
Mars/Saturn conjunct can also suggest this

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posted June 30, 2017 12:05 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Questionable moral values;
Moon square Jupiter
Moon square Venus

Pluto in 6th can work in dangerous environments
Mars/Saturn conjunct can also suggest this

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Good catch about pluto in the 6th house and add that it forms a grand trine in his career houses 2nd, 6th, and 10th between pluto, sun conjunct mercury and his moon along with his moon in aries and mars conjunct saturn would make him highly ambitious, he wanted to be president.

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posted June 30, 2017 12:09 AM            

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Originally posted by Hemilla:

mother wore the pants in his family,she was money orianted and influenced him twords it (moon in aries in 2nd)

Father absent due to work or remarried ? (sun in sagg in 10 conjunct merc)

oportunistic wife

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Why is the father absence explained by sun conjunct mercury in Sag?

Why do you think his wife was opportunistic? I havent found much info on their marriage..

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posted June 30, 2017 02:20 AM            

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Because the moon in second would be the way he sees his mother,and he probably saw her as someone money oriented,and because its the matter of his personal possesions ,she probably urged him to attain money, to work .

For the father the fact its in sagg and conjuncting mercury - both sagg and gem are not grounded . He maybe was not absent in body,but could be the kind of father whos presence you dont feel because of lack of communication.

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posted June 30, 2017 02:55 PM            

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Because the moon in second would be the way he sees his mother,and he probably saw her as someone money oriented,and because its the matter of his personal possesions ,she probably urged him to attain money, to work .

For the father the fact its in sagg and conjuncting mercury - both sagg and gem are not grounded . He maybe was not absent in body,but could be the kind of father whos presence you dont feel because of lack of communication.

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Excellent analysis

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posted July 01, 2017 08:27 AM            

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Thank you

I watched South American version of the show that was created way before this American one (i prefere that onethe actor that played him was simply brilliant) , but i dont really remember the way his mother was presented,i do remember she played big part in his life,and his wife was if i remember quite suportive- he had good bond with his children, dont remember if father was in the show tho . He raped some women if i remember correctly, had a mistress who was a reporter also .

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posted March 14, 2018 02:16 PM            

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Very good movie. I enjoy binge watching. I think I saw this on Netflix.

Pablo seems to resonate with Pallas. http://zot.net/criminalastrology.htm

I can show my findings soon if anyone is still interested.

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posted March 14, 2018 02:24 PM            

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What is your theory on Pallas SecretGeek?

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posted March 14, 2018 02:39 PM            

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What is your theory on Pallas SecretGeek?

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It can show extreme passion. It seems to be related to Pluto, BML, Lilith (1181), Perse (26,399), etc. but research is ongoing.

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posted March 14, 2018 03:07 PM            

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Pablo had BML, NN, and Moon all in the 2nd. All are Moon related objects. There is a gap in there. I suspect something major hits the midpoint. It is not Pallas' NN because Pallas' SN is on his Mars.

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posted March 14, 2018 03:36 PM            

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It can show extreme passion. It seems to be related to Pluto, BML, Lilith (1181), Perse (26,399), etc. but research is ongoing.

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uhhh

I have pallas quintile moon exact trine Chaos exact hahaha and Chaos conjunct Juno by 2d...

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posted March 14, 2018 03:48 PM            

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uhhh

I have pallas quintile moon exact trine Chaos exact hahaha and Chaos conjunct Juno by 2d...

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I love passion because I can control it. If someone can't control it, it can be dangerous.

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posted March 14, 2018 03:57 PM            

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I love passion because I can control it. If someone can't control it, it can be dangerous.

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oh yeah like Pablo LOL

I can control it too..I feel having saturn in scorpio helps with self control.

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posted March 14, 2018 04:05 PM            

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I have pallas quintile moon exact trine Chaos exact hahaha and Chaos conjunct Juno by 2d...

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My Juno at Aries 1 is on Juno discovery location. My Pallas is in late Pisces 8th. Juno's Pallas in on Juno's Pluto. So I can relate to the Juno Pallas sense.

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posted March 14, 2018 04:13 PM            

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oh yeah like Pablo LOL

I can control it too..I feel having saturn in scorpio helps with self control.

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I can relate. Your Saturn is likely opposite to your Juno while my Saturn is sextile to my Pallas. I might have more control. It can be a passion to learn, sex, sports, competition, etc.

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