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sarahhm
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posted June 20, 2017 07:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sarahhm     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So a lot of what I've noticed about astrology in practice is a lot different than what I've been reading in theory on these forums and the books. Here are some observations:

Lets start with the most controversial:

1. The Ascendant. I think the place of birth means more than the time. I've started putting the time for everyone to 12 pm noon and that has been the most accurate. With this method people that I've guessed to be a sign because they give off the energy so strongly - that's actually their ascendant. Moving forward with it -It's been the most accurate for predictions and the most accurate for looking at behaviour.

I know what you're thinking - so everyone born on the same day, 12 pm, same place's personality is the same?

No. I have friends who are triplets. They couldn't be more different - and yet they all personify their sun, moon and ascendant perfectly.

One definitely is a cancer ascendant because she has the classic defensive shell, one sister looks like the Cancer Asc and the other sister is more stereotypical soft emotional cancer ascendant.

All are Taurus moon, one acts like it through her tastes in clothing and career, the other in the drive for security, the other unfortunately in terms of health problems.

They're all Aries Sun but it again manifests in different ways. One looks like a classic Aries, the other a classic Taurus, and the other classic cancer. Very interesting.

2. Keep in mind the 4th house. For example, a Neptune in the 4th house may mean a rich imagination in childhood, a family of musicians and artists, or alcoholism. The orbs don't matter too much I've found - looking at the family member's charts count to see for example whether the child will have the alcoholic parent or the musician matter more. Whatever the manifestation that will affect the family dynamics - especially the role the child plays in the family which affects how they personify their chart. All 3 sisters had a different role in the family despite being triplets and that had a lasting effect. It's almost like you can't look at just the person's chart alone, you have to ask for their parent's details too.

3. In practice I've found the Sun to be less significant. The Ascendant I have found to show how the person goes through life, their instinctual behaviour, the moon is the reason that they do what they do. The sun turns out to be how the Ascendant and the Moon gets reconciled and joined together. Psychology wise - the Ascendant is the Self we're born with, Moon is what we strive and aim for and the Sun, therefore, is the Ego that is developed to attain what the Moon whats. So looking at the Sun without the Moon is useless. You won't figure out why a person does what they do unless you look at the Moon - the why. So I don't really bother with the Sun unless it's to fill in the blanks. I'm straight to the Moon and the Ascendant.

4. Don't ignore the 12th house. I take the Ascendant sign and the 12th House sign as one. Virgo Ascendants with their stereotyped pickiness and criticism - why? Wel,l think about the subconscious 12 house - Leo. Their subconscious thinks they're entitled to be as they are because they believe themselves to be 'royal'/'special.' 1st house - conscious mind, 12th house - the subconscious mind. We know how powerful the subconscious can be. It's almost like the second moon.

5. I've found Leo Ascendants to be massive criers - Cancer 12th house.

6. All Aquarius Ascendants I've found to be massive in their career -Capricorn 12th house, why? Because career success leads to money and money, to many Aquarians they don't see it as a way to power. money to them is freedom - Aquarius.

7. Pay attention to planets out of bounds - they really manifest and parents - make sure it's channelled in a healthy way in kids or it can really spiral.

8. Intercepted signs and houses in Placidus are not voids. Articles make it seem like you were missing something in childhood or life or whatever. No - I found irl that Intercepted signs are signs where you have an excess of something. Duplicated is when there's not enough. This is because transits over those houses take longer - sometimes twice as long. You have twice as long to deal with that energy, twice as long to learn the lessons, twice as long to have it incorporated into your personality and life. Once the person gets into their 20s the intercepted signs and houses have a very strong manifestation. It becomes palpable to the point where it can come off as strong as the Ascendant.

9. I've noticed those in healthcare that don't have the classic stereotyped house or sign placements will have intercepted 12/6th houses. They'll dedicate their whole lives and define their personality by intercepted signs and houses.

10. Want to be more attractive - dress and act like your descendant. If you're a Cancer Asc - you're looking for a Cap sort of guy. Dress and act like a Cap Asc. That will get the initial attraction because you look like what they're looking for and you're looking for them. Then over the course of the date or so on the Cancer Asc will come out on its own to balance things out.

11. Relocation chart are for real. Pay attention to them, I've found they kick in at about 1 year give or take a few months. Especially if you lived through some crucial years in another country. I'm not talking like 6 months study abroad, i'm talking like I lived half my life in a country that put my Ascendant opposite what it is. It's Aries Asc but where I moved to I had a Libra Asc. My Libra chart is honestly imo as valid as my Aries chart. Half my life! During the years when my personality was developing! the 4th house checks out for both! So pay attention to those many many years in another country. It should be taken into consideration.


Let me know your thoughts and thank you for taking the time to read and consider

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Aries23Degrees
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posted June 20, 2017 07:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very interesting. Especially the part about the Asc/12th house relationship and intercepted houses.

I have found the midpoints worth a look-for example if Mars=Moon/Merc,the individual is likely to be more argumentative and use emotionally fuelled words when asserting themselves.

This is different from one who has Mars=Sun/Sat ,as this individual represses their impulses and often acts in a seemingly calculated or restrained manner.

I found this insight quite revealing.

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hypatia238
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posted June 20, 2017 11:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes intercepted houses means there are two signs that are duplicated in your chart that fall in two houses, those are your strengths but the sign that is locked in a house is an indication of a blind sight or weakness, developmental issue.

I agree that the signs that are duplicated feel very strongly in the person like an ascendant but the intercepted house is definitely a big issue in their life, in a sense an area were they are stuck.

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posted June 20, 2017 11:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I did purchase my first home while Pluto was conjuncting my Colorado relocation chart's IC exact. Also I moved back to Colorado from Miami while Pluto was conjuncting my Colorado's IC relocation chart exact and I was living with my mother in Miami at the time to save money, it felt like breaking up with her to make that change, saying goodbye was intense. I did also have Tr Soutnode on my Moon when I made this move.

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posted June 20, 2017 11:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Further Tr Jupiter has been on my relocation AC for a few months now and my mood has been pretty good overall in spite of saturn hitting my luminaries. Since jupiter started to conjunct my relocation chart AC exact my mood improved a lot thankfully. The effects of Saturn hitting my luminaries faded more to the background, it helps my recolation AC quintiles my Eros so activated by Tr Jupiter feels very lovely, makes me feel more passion for life which tr saturn was completely sucking it out of me.

I wish Jupiter will stay around 14d in Libra all the time! Just go a month back from when my mood improved drastically and Jupiter was in libra at 19d and my mood was better than earlier that year but still not great, it was when it started to conjunct exact my relocation AC that my mood shifted and jupiter has been close to my AC since May 1, late April till now still.

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posted June 20, 2017 08:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for goatcat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I loved 3.

"the Self we're born with, Moon is what we strive and aim for and the Sun, therefore, is the Ego that is developed to attain what the Moon whats."

This is so true

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llewsacm
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posted June 21, 2017 10:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for llewsacm     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sarahhm this is great that you have shared your observations. These are the types of things that help us all who are looking to learn see a different perspective.

Would you mind elaborating on item #7?

I really think the 12th house interpretation has some weight as well. I'm a little thrown off tho on the reference to 12 on the time because the two go hand in hand.

Also on relocation charts...yes! I did a reading for someone who moved cross country and she called me to announce that everything I predicted rang true.

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Free Leon
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posted June 22, 2017 12:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Free Leon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very interesting post. Thank you.

How do you interpret Aries Ascendant, Aries Moon in 1st House and Leo Sun in 5th House?

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