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Topic: What aspects point to death by the hands of a spouse?
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SunAscendant
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posted June 25, 2017 04:18 PM
  
I've always had this fear that I might die at the hands of whomever my future husband is. I don't have a history of domestic abuse by guys in relationships nor do I know of anyone personally who has, but I've just always been worried about it. You see, I'm convinced somehow that my 7th house ruler Saturn sitting in my 8th house of Aquarius means that my husband (7th) would be the reason for my ultimate demise (8th house). It's not COMPLETELY implausible since astrologically it makes sense... I just hope I'm wrong, dead wrong, no pun intended.  IP: Logged |
GrandFireT
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posted June 25, 2017 09:16 PM
Sun, I wouldn't worry about it if I were you. I can think of a few women who would have gladly terminated me had I ever married them. They were all over the chart, so to speak. IP: Logged |
Kannon McAfee
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posted June 25, 2017 10:40 PM
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Originally posted by SunAscendant:
I've always had this fear that I might die at the hands of whomever my future husband is. I don't have a history of domestic abuse by guys in relationships nor do I know of anyone personally who has, but I've just always been worried about it.
I suggest you deal with that fear as it will be far more empowering if you do, rather than if you become 'educated' in symbolic ways of promoting others' anxiety. ------------------
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Kannon McAfee
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posted June 26, 2017 10:27 AM
I have Saturn in the 8th house of my natal chart as well. I have had an underlying fear of losing my mate. Some astrologers may want to pin this to having Moon in Capricorn, but I don't pin it to anything as if astrology scheduled such an experience for me.It is still a fear I have to deal with at times, but it can be done. Truth is, if it were to happen there's nothing I can do to change it and I will survive and move on. When we change our attitudes and vision of our lives we change our reality. Many of these fears bleed through the barrier between conscious/subconscious because of experiences we've had in past lives. That does not mean they will repeat again, but if we hold onto the fear instead of releasing it then we are wasting the mental and imaginative ability to see and create better outcomes. Fear of rejection and loss were big ones I had to get over in order to even approach relationships. Best thing -- co-create with the Universe that you have a mate that accepts and appreciates you as you are. Such a person will honor you, not wound you. Visualize it and verbalize it authoritatively. It will override the fear, even if it tries to come back. ------------------
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colorful butterfly
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posted June 26, 2017 01:28 PM
I read that Saturn in the 8th house gives the person a long life. IP: Logged |
hypatia238
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posted June 26, 2017 02:05 PM
Since Saturn rules your 7H and it falls in the 8th house in aquarius is possible your husband will die of old age unexpectedly maybe.Then Uranus rules your 8th house but it falls in your 7th conjunct Neptune so again maybe your spouse will die unexpectedly, not the other way around!. I dont see any indications in your chart of you dying unexpectedly in his arms but perhaps that fear is in your chart since Uranus rules your 8th house and falls in the 7H conjunct Neptune, Neptune can lead to unknown fears were you dont' know were the origin comes from and can let your imagination go wild. IP: Logged |
hypatia238
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posted June 26, 2017 02:08 PM
Neptune conjuncting the ruler of your 8th can lead to fears around death and since it Uranus conjunct Neptune falls in the 7th house the fear is manifested in the context of a significant other.IP: Logged |
hypatia238
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posted June 26, 2017 02:16 PM
My husband has a strong fear of death period and a fear of losing me while I give birth due to birth complications..He has Neptune in the 8th house squaring ruler of his 8th house Jupiter, his 8 house is also very small. Further Neptune in the 8th sextiles Pluto in the 6th house and Pluto rules his DC, that is were his fear of losing me due to birth complications kicks in. He also has Mars conjunct Uranus in Scorpio right on his DC. OMG maybe I will die unexpectedly on him. He gets tremors every time he thinks about death! Tremors are a PTSD symptom. He says he wants to shake off the possibility of him dying. He says is like his body wants to stop death from happening by shaking it off. IP: Logged |
SunAscendant
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posted June 26, 2017 04:31 PM
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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
I have Saturn in the 8th house of my natal chart as well. I have had an underlying fear of losing my mate. Some astrologers may want to pin this to having Moon in Capricorn, but I don't pin it to anything as if astrology scheduled such an experience for me.It is still a fear I have to deal with at times, but it can be done. Truth is, if it were to happen there's nothing I can do to change it and I will survive and move on. When we change our attitudes and vision of our lives we change our reality. Many of these fears bleed through the barrier between conscious/subconscious because of experiences we've had in past lives. That does not mean they will repeat again, but if we hold onto the fear instead of releasing it then we are wasting the mental and imaginative ability to see and create better outcomes. Fear of rejection and loss were big ones I had to get over in order to even approach relationships. [b]Best thing -- co-create with the Universe that you have a mate that accepts and appreciates you as you are. Such a person will honor you, not wound you. Visualize it and verbalize it authoritatively. It will override the fear, even if it tries to come back. [/B]
I totally feel like my 8th house Saturn makes me have this unwarranted belief that my future spouse will hurt me. You're right about that feeling. It is hard to get over the fears that Saturn in the 8th instills in me. I've always been an overly cautious scaredy cat. Also, I have always had so much anxiety before sex because I'm always worried that something might happen even though I've always taken the necessary precautions to prevent pregnancy and diseases. Sigh. You're right though, it's something I have to deal with. IP: Logged |
SunAscendant
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posted June 26, 2017 04:33 PM
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Originally posted by colorful butterfly:
I read that Saturn in the 8th house gives the person a long life.
I hope so, especially since it's the traditional ruler of my 8th house!! IP: Logged |
SunAscendant
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posted June 26, 2017 04:36 PM
I think another reason I got this whole "my future husband will kill me" thing is because my modern 8th house ruler Uranus is in my 7th house lol. Also, my 2nd house cusp has Chiron almost exactly conjunct it by 3 minutes thus meaning it exactly opposes my 8th house cusp. This is also why I have a fear of being hurt (Chiron) that results in my untimely demise (opposes 8th house cusp). But again, such fears are unwarranted.IP: Logged |
Orange
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posted June 26, 2017 08:25 PM
"Ruler of the 7th house in the 8th house
The 8th house is the house of eternal longings.
You feel attracted to people who will not (never) let you go. Your partner should be a tower of strength, even if life changes.
This position can point to a very stable union, whatever happens in your life.
Encounters can be highly impressive and intense and leave you with deep and often painful (unfulfilled) desires.
Relationships should be built on fidelity, stability and reliability.
In case these principles cannot be attained, relationships tend to become a cruel and destructive war.
Competition may be an issue." http://www.cosmitec-astrological-compatibility-advice.com/ruler-of-the-7th-house.html so , that's all about it.
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SunAscendant
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posted June 26, 2017 08:47 PM
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Originally posted by Orange:
"Ruler of the 7th house in the 8th house
The 8th house is the house of eternal longings.
You feel attracted to people who will not (never) let you go. Your partner should be a tower of strength, even if life changes.
This position can point to a very stable union, whatever happens in your life.
Encounters can be highly impressive and intense and leave you with deep and often painful (unfulfilled) desires.
Relationships should be built on fidelity, stability and reliability.
In case these principles cannot be attained, relationships tend to become a cruel and destructive war.
Competition may be an issue." [URL=http://www.cosmitec-astrological-compatibility-advice.com/ruler-of-the-7th-house.html]http://www.cosmitec-astrological-compatibility-advice.com/ruler-of-the-7th-house.html[/UR L] so , that's all about it.
Doesn't explain why I fear death by a partner, also, I said that I have never been in an abusive relationship.
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Orange
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posted June 26, 2017 09:47 PM
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Originally posted by SunAscendant:
Doesn't explain why I fear death by a partner.
Exactly my point IP: Logged |
hypatia238
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posted June 26, 2017 10:13 PM
The 8th house also rules death and endings is not just about eternal longings unfortunately... That energy can manifest in different ways. Pluto does rule death. IP: Logged |
Orange
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posted June 26, 2017 10:22 PM
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
The 8th house also rules death and endings is not just about eternal longings unfortunately... That energy can manifest in different ways. Pluto does rule death.
we all know that... why are you reinforcing her fears and anxiety? That's kinda ominous of you.
You even bumped a thread about it. UGH
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hypatia238
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posted June 26, 2017 10:58 PM
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Originally posted by Orange:
we all know that...why are you reinforcing her fears and anxiety? That's kinda ominous of you.
You even bumped a thread about it. UGH
That is not my intention, she wants information on it and I am providing it, she is curious and so am I. You are reading into my behavior and interpreting it in a sadistic way when I am simply acting like the sun and mercury in virgo that I am with Scorpio Rising and jupiter conjunct uranus in the 1H. Death fascinates me, I see it as a natural part of life and I believe strongly in confronting your fears so you can grow. She asked a question and I respect her enough to give her all the info out there and not sugercoat it. In fact I find astrologers who sugercoat things very unhelpful and annoying. IP: Logged |
hypatia238
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posted June 26, 2017 10:58 PM
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Originally posted by Orange:
we all know that...why are you reinforcing her fears and anxiety? That's kinda ominous of you.
You even bumped a thread about it. UGH
That is not my intention, she wants information on it and I am providing it, she is curious and so am I. You are reading into my behavior and interpreting it in a sadistic way when I am simply acting like the sun and mercury in virgo that I am with Scorpio Rising and jupiter conjunct uranus in the 1H. Death fascinates me, I see it as a natural part of life and I believe strongly in confronting your fears so you can grow. She asked a question and I respect her enough to give her all the info out there and not sugercoat it. In fact I find astrologers who sugercoat things very unhelpful and annoying. IP: Logged |
Orange
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posted June 26, 2017 11:33 PM
its not about sugarcoating, as her expectations are hyperbolic.
You are feeding her fears on being murdered by an eventual future husband and are even providing her with facts that she is indeed right.
This is not what an astrologer would do, and definitely not what a psychologist should do.
I know you are not doing it intentionally, but come on..aanyway IP: Logged |
SunAscendant
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posted June 26, 2017 11:46 PM
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
The 8th house also rules death and endings is not just about eternal longings unfortunately... That energy can manifest in different ways. Pluto does rule death.
I think if Pluto was in my 8th or I had an 8th Scorpio I'd completely agree. I understand that you're trying to help, don't worry. IP: Logged |
SunAscendant
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posted June 26, 2017 11:48 PM
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Originally posted by Orange:
we all know that...why are you reinforcing her fears and anxiety? That's kinda ominous of you.
You even bumped a thread about it. UGH,
I don't think she was trying to necessarily reinforce my worries, but I appreciate what you were trying to do. The 8th house is a sensitive topic because death in general is very taboo. IP: Logged |
hypatia238
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posted June 27, 2017 12:34 PM
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Originally posted by Orange:
its not about sugarcoating, as her expectations are hyperbolic.
You are feeding her fears on being murdered by an eventual future husband and are even providing her with facts that she is indeed right.
This is not what an astrologer would do, and definitely not what a psychologist should do.
I know you are not doing it intentionally, but come on..aanyway
I didnt realize she was talking about been "murdered" by her husband geezzz. I thought she meant just dying in their arms, she never used the word murdered but the information I was providing is not with the intention you are thinking at all. I see her posts frequently and I know she is the type to value information period, similar to me in that sense; more detached. Her post is more curious than anything, I have read her personality and knew she can handle me sharing information like that to her and that she would value it. She said herself she has not suffered from domestic violence but is a fear she has, we all have fears, she didn't say its a fear that consumed her, you over dramatized the emotion behind her post. I want to be clear about what I am going to say next. I am counselor and how I behave in my office with clients has nothing to do with how I carry myself in Lindaland. Lindaland is a hobby and a place for me to just let go and not worry about having my "counseling" hat on. I do that all day enough as it is and often then have to go home and do that some more with my husband so don't ever make assumptions about how I carry myself professionally based on Lindaland which is my outlet, not my second job (that goes to everyone here). I may put my counseling hat here sometimes very briefly if I choose to out of my own free will but is definitely not something I want anybody here to expect from me and be keeping tabs on and judging me over. IP: Logged |
hypatia238
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posted June 27, 2017 12:35 PM
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Originally posted by SunAscendant:
I don't think she was trying to necessarily reinforce my worries, but I appreciate what you were trying to do. The 8th house is a sensitive topic because death in general is very taboo.
Thank you! IP: Logged |
SunAscendant
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posted June 27, 2017 07:07 PM
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
I didnt realize she was talking about been "murdered" by her husband geezzz. I thought she meant just dying in their arms, she never used the word murdered but the information I was providing is not with the intention you are thinking at all. I see her posts frequently and I know she is the type to value information period, similar to me in that sense; more detached. Her post is more curious than anything, I have read her personality and knew she can handle me sharing information like that to her and that she would value it. She said herself she has not suffered from domestic violence but is a fear she has, we all have fears, she didn't say its a fear that consumed her, you over dramatized the emotion behind her post. I want to be clear about what I am going to say next. I am counselor and how I behave in my office with clients has nothing to do with how I carry myself in Lindaland. Lindaland is a hobby and a place for me to just let go and not worry about having my "counseling" hat on. I do that all day enough as it is and often then have to go home and do that some more with my husband so don't ever make assumptions about how I carry myself professionally based on Lindaland which is my outlet, not my second job (that goes to everyone here). I may put my counseling hat here sometimes very briefly if I choose to out of my own free will but is definitely not something I want anybody here to expect from me and be keeping tabs on and judging me over.
Yeah I meant murdered :[. I am worried that through my own interpretation of the chart (which could be wrong) that my future husband would kill me/try to kill me. I appreciate your comments though. I see your comments on other posts and notice how helpful and honest you are. Thank you for the help  IP: Logged |
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