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TaurusVenusGirl
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posted July 03, 2017 09:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TaurusVenusGirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
https://bornunderablondesign.wordpress.com/2013/10/23/the-fourth-house-hi-honey-im-home/

I just had to comment on this article! I have an empty 4H. I have suffered from homelessness, I lived on the streets as a teenager and have been homeless again in my mid 30's having to have live in my car.

I am also a cat lady. Only 2. Trying to resist the urge of another one!

Also my ruler of the 4H is Aqua. So Im clearly detached from having a loving home and family life! HA!

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Aries23Degrees
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posted July 04, 2017 12:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Uranus/Aqua 4th house cusp ime seems to bring suggest challenges in establishing emotional security /consistency on the home front

Look into this as an empty 4th house doesn't always mean homelessness(as I use to assume) as it depends more on the aspects to it as well as the ruler of it.

How was ur relationship with your father?What was his nature like?

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TaurusVenusGirl
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posted July 04, 2017 05:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TaurusVenusGirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He blew hot and cold. He was also physically abusive, never sexually though.

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Aries23Degrees
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posted July 04, 2017 06:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah. Guessed as much. Aquarius on the 4th suggests that the native may seek independence from emotional relationships. Probably because the early environment was so erratic and unpredictable. They don't to be under someone's mercy again.

On the flip side the instability experienced early on could serve as a foreground from which one recreates/regurgitates the feeling of "home".

So one may tolerate/prefer living conditions that mirror that instability; moving from place to place, living with an unruly mate, renting and never buying and even living in a group home/shelter etc.

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TaurusVenusGirl
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posted July 04, 2017 07:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TaurusVenusGirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But my Sun is in my 7th house and my juno conjuncts my IC, so I want an emotional relationship, it just seems as though I'm only going to have them with cats.

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Aries23Degrees
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posted July 04, 2017 09:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What sign is your Sun in? Taurus/Aries?

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TaurusVenusGirl
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posted July 04, 2017 10:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TaurusVenusGirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Taurus..

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Aries23Degrees
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posted July 04, 2017 11:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When it comes to relationships, you could be drawn to people who are either financially secure or emotionally stable.

The 7th is about the partnerships and projections. And with your Sun in Taurus, this is the idealized version of you projected to your partner.

You could find yourself drawn to committing to someone who is sweet,stable,consistent and calm. They could also be financially astute/well off or at least economically wise.

The nature could be of someone very affectionate /sexual and very demonstrative when it comes to commitment. Not to mention physically attractive

Depending on where your Moon/Venus is, such a person could challenge your views on love/affection/intimacy and sex.

Uranus ruled Aquarius on the Ic definitely suggests that you may have some issues with closeness/ intimacy. Either you prefer lukewarm physical contact or you are more comfortable with emotional distance between you and the partner. Sometimes even insisting on personal space etc.

The thing is that with pets, the love/affection is unequal and there as imbalance i e you can pull away at any given time without explanation and come back whenever you want.(Uranus)

But with the 7th , you are dealing with an "equal". The individual talks back,is their own person and the balance of power is equal. You can't come and go if and when u choose. They want stability and consistency from you and force you to grow.

Pets are great as an instrument to demonstrate love. But you should ask yourself if you are avoiding human contact by using them as a substitute?

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Kannon McAfee
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posted July 04, 2017 06:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you post in Personal Readings you can put up your chart there and get a fuller, more informed response.

The author of the article you linked points out that an empty 4th house does not point to homelessness, etc. By itself a house not having planets in it does not have any particular meaning. The meaning is found where the planetary energies are. We interpret what the focus is with a particular chart and the relationships of the planets. Can't do that unless we can see them.

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TaurusVenusGirl
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posted July 05, 2017 05:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TaurusVenusGirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Aires, Thanks for your reply. You always reply back with much detail.

Yes I do want someone rich and good looking and demonstrative! Don't most of us

"Either you prefer lukewarm physical contact or you are more comfortable with emotional distance between you and the partner" I'd have to say, that I am more of an all or nothing person. If I am not truly in love, I dont want a part of it.

Im not using my pets as a substitute, I really just love animals

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Aries23Degrees
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posted July 05, 2017 06:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That is a relief lol.

Its interesting to read your response because as i said -depending on your Moon/Venus sign and aspects, more light could be shed as to your relationship style.

But that Uranus ruled Aqua Ic intrigues me-as its usually a spanner in the proverbial affection "works".

Similar to Aqua moon there is love you from a distant or prefer certain distance in love. The my space vs where the lover is allowed to inhabit etc. Plays itself out with this position.

The Leo 10th suggests the partners inner self may be a lot more demonstrative and passionate.

Yes many of us yearn for a rich/good looking partner. But for others it matters infinitely more than just a wish. I think in your case, it may actually occur

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