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FatedCinderella
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posted July 06, 2017 03:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FatedCinderella     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If yes,how is that for you?what do you imagine?

Do you struggle to deal with "reality"?

I know this is a hard thing to talk about and I know is not easy to expose some pieces,but if you decide to tell me I won't quote,of course

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racole12
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posted July 06, 2017 03:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for racole12     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It depends on the chart...

I have Neptune conj my Sun, and exact inconj my Moon... BUT, Saturn is almost aspected to every planet in my chart including squ to Sun, trine to Moon... and I feel like I'm balanced/realistic ...

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posted July 06, 2017 03:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As a Neptune-Sun conjunct person natally, I think that Moon-Neptune individual immerse themselves far deeper in Neverland than most people.


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posted July 06, 2017 03:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FatedCinderella     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes saturn is great for that!
I think I should have asked what people that feels like that have on their charts

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posted July 06, 2017 03:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Empty Spaces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aries23

Do you have strong saturn aspects?
Because I have a neptune/sun and I absoultely hate it.Some aspects are like simple to deal with,is like those that people say "your chart doesn't have power over you" or "that is just an excuse" I gree but this one FOR ME I feel is like a disease.Like a.. disease.Neverland check! Craziness double check.

I would exchange it any day,any time!
I noticed that Racole talked about saturn and though I'm capricorn I barely have saturn aspects,maybe is that or maybe is not,we are unique lol

Please don't quote ♡♡♡♡

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FatedCinderella
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posted July 06, 2017 04:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FatedCinderella     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aries23Degrees

Yeah that must be really tough! Depending of the rest of the chart as Racole said but honestly I dislike most aspects to the luminaries. (Pluto/uranus/neptune) it can mess with someone else deeply.

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posted July 06, 2017 04:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nope I deal with reality just fine, do I wish things were different yes but everyone does. Everyone knows life is painful and wishes the world was better.

Neptune squares my Sun Virgo opposite Moon in Pisces.

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posted July 06, 2017 04:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YellowGerbera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Neptune in 1st house, in sextile with Pisces stellium (sun, moon, mercury) in 3rd. However, this stellium also received a tight square from Saturn.

I can let myself daydream a lot but I don't find it difficult to deal with the reality, nor do I have or live in a fantasy world. I'm more logical and idealistic/realistic.

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posted July 06, 2017 04:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DannyCappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was born on 93 (PLEASE DON'T QUOTE) and unfortunally I also gained that little gift called neptune/sun.Conjunction/tight aspect,I guess.

I don't have problems with reality by itself is not that.However it makes me ever since I was a child to imagine things and stay there for a while.It's like having crisis! Where you go to this "fantasy world" as you call so I agree with someone here that mentioned "disease".Like a mental disorder,however sun isn't responsible for the mind right? Beyond weird.

Hope it helps you FC!!!

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posted July 06, 2017 04:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for florence     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes moon conjunct Neptune

I've curtailed it somewhat because I think it impedes making dreams actuality but Saturn is also trine my Neptune which helps.

I have to be able to do something creative though

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posted July 06, 2017 05:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for squirrel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yes. not coping that well with reality, prone to escapism. but i do have a vivid imagination, i can detach myself from my surrondings and drift away easily. i'm a good liar and deceiver can come up with best excuses in a moment and i can also easily detect if someone is telling lies.
but i do not have a firm sense of identity, it is almost fluid and is influenced by people around me.

I've never taken any drugs nor do i drink alcohol.

neptune squares my sun mercury conjunction in virgo.

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posted July 06, 2017 06:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for polkadotstars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I daydream a lot and have a crazy imagination I don't mind it!

pisces sun, moon, mercury conjunct

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posted July 06, 2017 08:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vertiver     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by polkadotstars:
I daydream a lot and have a crazy imagination I don't mind it!

pisces sun, moon, mercury conjunct


Exactly, its one of the most therapeutic things to do, daydream and fantasize. I'm a romantic at heart and honestly I am far happier with my daydream fantasies of romance verses the reality because reality can be a disappointment. Especially when you tend to be in your head far more than others.

I'm a Lunar Pisces in the 3rd H sextile Neptune and Neptune in the first.

Right now my P moon is in Pisces, and this year and a half has been filled with short comings until I realized to just stay in my head and not actualize anything until my Saturn Return is over and P moon progresses to Aries.

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posted July 06, 2017 11:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There's a saying that some astrologers use...

“Imagination lays the tracks for the Reality Train to follow.”

~ Caroline Casey (author, astrologer)

Neptune trine Mercury, "The Inspirational Thinker"
Neptune trine Mars, "The Practical Idealist"
Neptune square Jupiter, "The Seeker of The Dream"

Neptune sextile NN/GalacticCenter

Generational aspects
Neptune square Uranus (early 1950s) ...
- Intuition challenges Illumination
Neptune sextile Pluto
(many from 1940s-early 1970s) ...
- Intuition flows with Regeneration
(This aspect is back in play in the youngest generations now.)
ref Alan Oken

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posted July 07, 2017 01:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hearttreasure     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pisces venus sextile neptune.

I was born from a mother who has Venus in pisces and a father who has mars in pisces. Both are having cancer as a mars and a venus, so they can be very protective at times. I grew up religiously and our home life kind of like living in a fantasy because it is all good ('till now). I never knew there was a dark side of the world as my Mom controlled the TV, no internet, no handphone, until we were all in a college, far away from home and living alone. So, yes, my venus in pisces lives this dream, a kindness, forgiveness, compassion, loyalty, honesty, innocent heart, helping others, smile to strangers etc, it's a kind world. I saw the world through rose glasses. I was very naive in the big city because I never knew the dark places exist even within our self (heart)..

I was forced to deal with reality when I was in my first real relationship. The darkest moment in my life. I loss 22 pounds in 2-3 months without any exercises, it crushed and burned the good things that I thought we all lived in. This is why I avoid plutonic relationship at all cost and the greatest lessons I have in life so I can avoid the same mistake. - I also have chiron in 7th house

I have realized the world inside my head was never exist, it only exists at my home that projected to the outside, but still it was hard to get out from those fantasy world you grew up into because the jupiter conjunct moon keeps the faith alive, keeps all the hopes alive, keeps the moral can not be crushed by dark people.

How I deal with it is separating the good and the bad. I never ever try to blend it anymore. That's the boundaries I have.

We all have different fantasy, and my fantasy world is my home life I grew up into where it is now hard to have in this era. Yes, I still have a struggle but at least I don't deny that sometimes those pisces influence believes there's another world.

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posted July 07, 2017 07:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hearttreasure
What was your synastry like? The plutonian one..

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Aries23Degrees
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posted July 07, 2017 07:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Empty spaces

Saturn on Moon,Mercury and Venus by trine,sextile and conjunction respectively.

Sun-Neptune conjunction has me try to live up to all sorts of personal ideals. In many ways this position can think itself "divinity personified".

I would love to relinquish all attachments to worldly things and live like a monk. And at some point in my life, I think I will.

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posted July 07, 2017 08:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for alludeu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
As a Neptune-Sun conjunct person natally, I think that Moon-Neptune individual immerse themselves far deeper in Neverland than most people.



As a moon conjunct (exact) neptune person I can back this up 100% lmao. I think it'd be hard for anyone (without strong neptune aspects) to understand how lost we get in our own fantasies. It can be scary at times for the neptune person themselves when they have moments of clarity and realise it's not safe to just idealise everyone & delude ourselves of reality.

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posted July 07, 2017 10:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selenite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moon square Neptune,
Yes I have a problem with wanting to escape reality. Lately I have less trouble with 'fantasy' and escapist behavior, and more trouble with whether my life goals are one big fantasy that will never manifest.. haha
We just need some discipline is all..

But yeah, when I really, really believed in things, like fate and astrology and the universe, it was really bad. I lived my life through the occult, listening to strange entities talk to me, using crystals, etc. I think it can be good for people, and I'm still fascinated by all these ideas, but I personally had to step out of that because it was getting in the way of existence, I was no longer taking initiative. That's the dangerous side I think, definitely a Neptunian lesson

Oh.. and I have the quintile from Venus to Neptune.

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posted July 07, 2017 12:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for colorful butterfly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have neptune oppose venus and it is true in the past I have seen what I wanted to see when the whole time the person was telling me who they were, I just wanted to believe in them. I have to really be aware of what a person shows me vs tells me, also aware of their intentions with me.

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posted July 07, 2017 12:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Please we mustn't put ourselves down for aspects we were 'born' with....

Do you aspect-shame yourself???

I think society has missed somehow, and gone into a direction of NOT valuing and funding its artists. We missed 'educating' people on HOW to utilize and ground their more ethereal-spiritual talents. These are latent and valuable gifts in people. We need mentors that realize it, and can help people tap their inner-resource.

Perhaps in a differently structured society or culture, your Gifts would be a breath of fresh air upon the earth.

It may be true too, that through the incredible stresses right now, that having the capacity to be 'escapists' (without other outlets found, without finding your soul's purpose FOR having your Neptunes), that 'in this harsh world' where you haven't found the way to plug-in your giftings yet, that if drugs (or weird cults) are available, then, you might unconsciously (or, subconsciously-- meaning you know it's not the best for you and you override that inner knowing and self-sabotage), choose the lesser-expression over the Higher expression of what is within your soul.

Everything.... in context of different times and cultures are valued differently.

We CAN reshape and reframe society and find some way that this 'all' fits in.

Value your Neptunes!

If you would like?
I can draw up a list for you of the various descriptions of expressions of Neptune to specific planets (from the Alan Oken book I have).

The Keyword he uses for Neptune is Illumination.

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posted July 07, 2017 12:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for polkadotstars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There's both good and bad with having an overactive imagination.

On the plus side, I can always make myself laugh. I was in a boring meeting the other day at work, and the conference room doors were left open. I started imagining a parade of animals walking outside past the doors, dancing, and making funny faces to music.

On the down side, I can scare myself terribly with no effort at all. I don't like to look in the mirrors of a bathroom where the door is open behind me because I can easily believe that I'll see a scary face standing behind me. I often have to block out my imagination when I'm scared because I always imagine the worst!

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posted July 07, 2017 01:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hearttreasure     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Orange:
hearttreasure
What was your synastry like? The plutonian one..

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posted July 07, 2017 02:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ok, got it

one last , did you have Moon oppose Pluto in the synastry as well? Or the feromentioned aspect is only in the Composite? I am asking because this aspect is quite talked about here in these forums here

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posted July 07, 2017 07:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astrofiend     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If yes, how is that for you? what do you imagine?

Do you struggle to deal with "reality"?

I know this is a hard thing to talk about and I know is not easy to expose some pieces,but if you decide to tell me I won't quote,of course

I don't have strong Neptune. I'm Plutonian and Saturnian. That aside I have
Venus in Pisces in the 7th
Scorpio moon in the Pisces decan, moon sextile Neptune, Moon trine Venus

So I definitely vibes with the Neptunians. Regardless I got a friend that is more Neptunian but also not that Neptunian (she's got Venus conjunct Neptune and some minor aspect with her Sun).

Anyway when comparing my Venus in Pisces with her Venus conjunct Neptune. I feel like I am more Neptunian than her in a lot of ways. Mind you she has this Venus-Neptune conjunction in Capricorn which is like the direct opposite of Pisces/Neptune.

Whatever the case, noticing these differences help me see that it really depends. Not all neptune placements are unrealistic/living in fantasy. It depends on the Neptune.

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