posted August 11, 2017 07:05 PM            

Hope you are enjoying your moderator job in the neighbouring forum

I would like to ask you for some info about the following transits:

1) tr. Venus opposite/conjunct n. Mars versus tr. Mars opposite/conjunct n. Venus

Could you give an example of how they're different?

Also, tr. Mercury in aspect to n. Mars versus tr. Mars in aspect to n. Mercury

The way I understand them:

tr. Mars to n. Venus ------ higher energy, sexual as well
tr. Venus to n. Mars -- no idea yet
tr. Mars to n. Mercury --- ease of verbal self-expression
tr. Mercury to n. Mars --- not sure..

posted August 12, 2017 12:54 AM            

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Originally posted by CapriciousCapricorn:
1) tr. Venus opposite/conjunct n. Mars versus tr. Mars opposite/conjunct n. Venus

Could you give an example of how they're different?

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Venus transiting natal planets is not activating. You're more likely to let it pass with an effect of internal feeling or initial attraction that you act on later -- unless there are stronger motivating transits coinciding pretty closely. It is there and you feel it, but it is not an activator for bringing energies out into external expression like Sun, Mercury, Mars, Jupiter. It is soft and it needs accompaniment that is sharper, louder. See?

Mars can be a 'soloist'. Venus not as much, more a wallflower.

Mars in transit to natal Venus is more motivating. There's more zip there that wants externalized expression. Attraction is more likely to be acted on; creative energies get acted on rather than just being passing ideas or enjoyments.

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Also, tr. Mercury in aspect to n. Mars versus tr. Mars in aspect to n. Mercury

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Less of a difference here, depending on what your basic communicative tendencies are (and depending on whether there is a long Rx/S/direct motion involved in the transit). By itself, Mercury transits can activate communicative expressions/events, but to Mars they are likely a time when things need to be more blunt and to the point. (Thoughts built up over time and now expressed all at once verbally or in writing.)

Similar with Mars to Mercury transits, but it really depends on how much you've left unsaid, how much you desire to write/communicate -- and how prone to irritability you are.

Sometimes people over-stimulate themselves during these types of transits (caffeine, etc) and worsen the effect. Or mental activities get brought to an often frantic climax so that you can either see what's been nagging you or what you're obsessing about.

posted August 12, 2017 11:40 AM            

So what surprised me is that all of you said that these aspects are actually similar. I expected quite the opposite and honestly I still don;t quite understand it but yeah, it's a start.

I recently had a tr. Mars trine n. Mercury and its influence was felt quite strongly. I can say now that I learned from experience what this transit is about, what it means.

I want to explain a little how I see transits and maybe you can correct me or simply give an alternative opinion if it differs from mine. Or just add you comments whatever they are please

Mars, Venus and Mercury are all different planets so their movements across natal chart should be all doing their own thing, right? For example, Mars - energising, Venus - soothing, comforting and facilitating, Mercury - planning, organising, managing, making something happen. I'm being vague, these are just words that I would use to describe partly what each planet causes as it transits. So partly why I can't understand how these pairs of aspects are similar is because the transiting planets have completely different jobs. Mars energises Venus - our amorous/caring side of personality - it will make us (Mars) want to love/care/enjoy/derive pleasure (Venus) more than usual (conjunction for better example). Venus Enables Mars - creates a situation/environment in which it is comfortable for Mars to be himself (meaning self-express without inhibition and hindrance). So can these aspects both be seen as sexual (among other things)? Because of the above reasons I don't understand why tr. Venus on n. Mars is sexual rather than the other way around. Because I see sex as something that Venus wants to do, not Mars, unless it's a man's Mars or.. the woman is horny )) But then..what if instead of have sex Venus just wants to have a cake in a romantic cafe or Mars instead of having sex wants to play footballs with mates.......Hmmm..No you're right, there really IS similarity! lol it can go either way with both. Ok I'm going to think about Mars-Mercury now but something's telling me it's going to be similar to this.

posted August 12, 2017 11:47 AM            

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Originally posted by Nine:
Mars is purely sexual in the Venus-Mars context. Thus a relationship started under this influence will be highly physical. Such a relationship will not last if sex is not a strong component.

Venus will bring a softer touch into a union with someone met under this influence.

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posted August 12, 2017 11:58 AM            

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
Venus transiting natal planets is not activating. You're more likely to let it pass with an effect of internal feeling or initial attraction that you act on later -- unless there are stronger motivating transits coinciding pretty closely. It is there and you feel it, but it is not an activator for bringing energies out into external expression like Sun, Mercury, Mars, Jupiter. It is soft and it needs accompaniment that is sharper, louder. See?

Mars can be a 'soloist'. Venus not as much, more a wallflower.

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What if she's an Aries Venus? For example, I have a lazy, passive Pisces Mars. Tr. Aries Venus conjunct it might be able to wake it up..? Or is this still a stretch since it's a Venus transit?

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Mars in transit to natal Venus is more motivating. There's more zip there that wants externalized expression. Attraction is more likely to be acted on; creative energies get acted on rather than just being passing ideas or enjoyments.

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posted August 12, 2017 12:32 PM            

Mars tends to heat things up. Watch your progressed Moon ib aspect to Mars(especially by declinations). It is not about the old but charging forward to the new.

Mars is like a knife. It can be used to cook or to kill. So its more the intent behind it that matters. But it acts.

Mars trans to natal Venus- brave new world in pursuits that have pleasure at their centre i.e new life in a relationship, new relationship,new creative endeavor, shopping spree, renewed sexual interest etc. It could also signify a breakup as one wants to open a new chapter and charge into new frontiers(similar to Uranus/Venus)

Trans Venus to natal Mars- calm after the storm, slow to anger, looking for win-win situations, investing energy in compromise, apologising for a wrong done, looking to smooth over past transgressions,forgiveness and healing etc.

Also can include a breakup but usually through some collapsed negotiation. This transit could want us to extend an olive branch in whatever the outcome. We come out with some measure of peace knowing that we tried to make it work etc.

Usually however, this transit suggests that you want to mend fences more than anything else. You want to get along again with those whom you had tension with.

I would say Mars to Venus is passionate and activates new interest. Venus to Mars is making peace with those whom you have had a notso smooth time with or tolerating tense conditions with your nerves in check.

posted August 12, 2017 06:13 PM            

Venus & Mars are understood to arouse sexual desire. Mars is pure sex. Venus is all things that gives you pleasure. Mars is self-gratification. Venus is gratification through others.

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'Mars is purely sexual' you mean tr. Mars

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The Martian principle, whether he's natal or transiting.

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and 'Venus will bring a softer touch' you mean tr. Mars, correct?

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Umm...ah..

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As Venus activates physicals sexual Mars... and Mars activates gentle loving Venus, yes?

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If Venus is the transiting planet in aspect to nMars, yes it will arouse sexual desire. However, the need here is to engage in activities that is pleasurable for both people. Thus it is possible to exchange affections with each other even in the absence of physical sex.

If Mars is the transiting planet in aspect to nVenus, again it will arouse sexual desire. What differentiates this from a Venus transit is, it is less about broader pleasurable activities, and more single mindedly about the sex act. Thus a relationship started under this influence minus sex won't last, or become rather acrimonious. While under a Venus transit affection could be a substitute for physical love making.

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Tell me because I can definitely understand it wrong

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There you have it.