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hypatia238
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posted August 12, 2017 02:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
November....

Apparently November generates the most serial killers lol ok, this can include Sagittarius....

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This is some of the data I came across that supports more serial killers are born in November:

"November

Seventeen serial killers were born in November, compared with an average of nine for other months, out of a total of more than 100 in the study.

Those born in November are most likely to believe they get a raw deal. A 2005 study found that they grow up to be the most pessimistic.

CELEB BIRTHS: Gordon Ramsay, Leonardo DiCaprio, P Diddy, Bjork."

https://uber-facts.com/2012/12/11/the-month-your-born-in-affects-your-life-experience/

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posted August 12, 2017 02:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yikes!! Maybe thats why I avoid Scorpios lol

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posted August 12, 2017 03:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well November is Sagittarius too and serial killers are really really rare so the intensity of how scorpio loves is worth the small tiny risk and unlikelihood they are serial killers lol....

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posted August 12, 2017 05:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 9thScorpio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
https://thoughtcatalog.com/lorenzo-jensen-iii/2016/08/famous-serial-killers-arranged-according-to-their-zodiac-sign/

Mind if I mention Ed Gein who was inspiration for Texas Chainsaw Massacre and Psycho? He has Virgo Sun, Sagittarius Moon and Gemini Rising.

Also, I've read somewhere that mutable signs produce the most serial killers out of all the signs.

https://tonylouis.wordpress.com/2012/01/16/the-ideal-serial-killer-an-exercise-in-electional-astrology/
http://www.astrologyresearchjournal.org/article110603/

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posted August 12, 2017 05:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I will assume you are trying to say most people who kill others are born in November. However, that is not true.

As said above, Serial killers are rare, and that act is but one form of murder.

How about other types of killers, say Murder-Suicide. Which sign is most likely to do that?

I read somewhere that Libra men count high in domestic violence cases.

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posted August 12, 2017 06:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Nine:
I will assume you are trying to say most people who kill others are born in November. However, that is not true.

As said above, Serial killers are rare, and that act is but one form of murder.

How about other types of killers, say Murder-Suicide. Which sign is most likely to do that?

I read somewhere that Libra men count high in domestic violence cases.


No, I am referring specifically to serial killers which I said are rare to start with.

Cancers are more famous for murders period bc they are usually motivated by crimes of passions, I believe this about male cancers.

Interesting input about libras..

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posted August 12, 2017 06:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 9thScorpio:
https://thoughtcatalog.com/lorenzo-jensen-iii/2016/08/famous-serial-killers-arranged-according-to-their-zodiac-sign/

Mind if I mention Ed Gein who was inspiration for Texas Chainsaw Massacre and Psycho? He has Virgo Sun, Sagittarius Moon and Gemini Rising.

Also, I've read somewhere that mutable signs produce the most serial killers out of all the signs.

https://tonylouis.wordpress.com/2012/01/16/the-ideal-serial-killer-an-exercise-in-electional-astrology/
http://www.astrologyresearchjournal.org/article110603/


FBI data contradicts what you are saying about mutable signs and violent crimes:

Cancers are those who have the vastest majority of criminal among all the zodiac signs, and they can also be the most violent ones, while the Scorpio as well as the Pisces are also very irritable.

So, according to the records of the FBI, the absolute most dangerous criminals are Cancer, then they are followed by Taurus in the second place, the third place is reserved for Sagittarius, and the fourth place is for the Aries, and the order after that is the following – Capricorn, Virgo, Libra, Pisces, Scorpio, Leo, Aquarius and then Gemini.

The Gemini are at the last place because their crimes are usually not connected to violence, but are connected with frauds and scams.

Cancer are the passion killers, because they can kill almost normally and even leave some marks on the body in order to sign their crime. Taurus are involved in laundering money and they usually act alone on it, without any accomplices at all.

Sagittarius are thieves and crooks, but they rarely do some harm to the victims unless it poses some danger on their lives. Aries are usually hired to commit crimes for other people, and the Capricorn is mostly involved in an organized crime.

Scorpios have emerged as the most sadistic sign and the sign that commits the most murders, and the Virgos are known to be hackers or burglars, Libra are those who are steeped in corruption, and they get involved in crimes connected to drugs very often.

On the other hand, the Gemini is not a very dangerous sign, and this sign is always connected to financial frauds and bloodless thefts. The Leo does not want to deal with any petty crime, so in order to gain fame, they get in a lot of enlarged and organized criminal activities.
http://secretnutritions.com/2017/04/zodiac-signs/

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posted August 12, 2017 08:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gemini30     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ted Bundy was the first to come to my mind before the thread uploaded on my computer lol

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posted August 12, 2017 08:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gemini30     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
FBI data contradicts what you are saying about mutable signs and violent crimes:

Cancers are those who have the vastest majority of criminal among all the zodiac signs, and they can also be the most violent ones, while the Scorpio as well as the Pisces are also very irritable.

So, according to the records of the FBI, the absolute most dangerous criminals are Cancer, then they are followed by Taurus in the second place, the third place is reserved for Sagittarius, and the fourth place is for the Aries, and the order after that is the following – Capricorn, Virgo, Libra, Pisces, Scorpio, Leo, Aquarius and then Gemini.

The Gemini are at the last place because their crimes are usually not connected to violence, but are connected with frauds and scams.

Cancer are the passion killers, because they can kill almost normally and even leave some marks on the body in order to sign their crime. Taurus are involved in laundering money and they usually act alone on it, without any accomplices at all.

Sagittarius are thieves and crooks, but they rarely do some harm to the victims unless it poses some danger on their lives. Aries are usually hired to commit crimes for other people, and the Capricorn is mostly involved in an organized crime.

Scorpios have emerged as the most sadistic sign and the sign that commits the most murders, and the Virgos are known to be hackers or burglars, Libra are those who are steeped in corruption, and they get involved in crimes connected to drugs very often.

On the other hand, the Gemini is not a very dangerous sign, and this sign is always connected to financial frauds and bloodless thefts. The Leo does not want to deal with any petty crime, so in order to gain fame, they get in a lot of enlarged and organized criminal activities.
http://secretnutritions.com/2017/04/zodiac-signs/



What about house placements? I'm a Gemini Sun in the 8th house lol

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posted August 12, 2017 08:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TaurusVenusGirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a Taurus Sun, and my Moon,Asc,Uranus are all in Scorpio.

After having an affair with a married man and having fallen in love with him, I then understood why someone would want to kill the spouse to get them out of the picture so the affair partner could be with the married person. I TOTTALLY got the whole crimes of passion scenario.

Not that I would actually do it though. I'm definitely more of a money laundering type person

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posted August 12, 2017 08:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by TaurusVenusGirl:
I have a Taurus Sun, and my Moon,Asc,Uranus are all in Scorpio.

After having an affair with a married man and having fallen in love with him, I then understood why someone would want to kill the spouse to get them out of the picture so the affair partner could be with the married person. I TOTTALLY got the whole crimes of passion scenario.

Not that I would actually do it though. I'm definitely more of a money laundering type person


Hahahahahahaha

Yes you can understand the desire to do something but not do it.

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posted August 12, 2017 08:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Gemini30:

What about house placements? I'm a Gemini Sun in the 8th house lol

Lol you tell me

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posted August 12, 2017 08:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yanmorg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I believe it.

if we're referring to Novmeber Scorpios instead of The Sagittarius ones..

We're the only sign that cares enough to commit such crimes. Other people would eventually move on and let it go.

Plus, I just think we experience life at a deeper level than everybody else. Extreme is our middle name, at either end of the spectrum.


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posted August 12, 2017 09:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DualGemV2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
.... The Leo does not want to deal with any petty crime, so in order to gain fame, they get in a lot of enlarged and organized criminal activities.

There was a famous case in Canada, the murderer Luka Magnotta (Leo) killed and sent the victims body to different political party offices.

How was he caught??? He was caught reading the headlines about himself in a Berlin Internet Cafe.

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posted August 12, 2017 09:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DualGemV2:
There was a famous case in Canada, the murderer Luka Magnotta (Leo) killed and sent the victims body to different political party offices.

How was he caught??? He was caught reading the headlines about himself in a Berlin Internet Cafe.

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OMG hahahaha that is hilarious.... Oh man
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posted August 12, 2017 10:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yes, I have heard before that the most often sign for serial killers/kidnappers are Cancers. I think it is because they suppress their volatile emotions to such a degree, it shows up in other dimensions. The latest one I have heard of, the kidnapper of the three girls in Cleveland Ohio a few years ago, Ariel Castro, was a Cancer male too. He kept them hostage for a decade.

Saggies are also notorious, I have no idea what motivates them other than Jupiter making them too sure in themselves, that they can get away with anything.

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posted August 12, 2017 10:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Saggies are also notorious, I have no idea what motivates them other than Jupiter making them too sure in themselves, that they can get away with anything.

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posted August 13, 2017 02:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrlyGirl200     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
November....

Now cancer commits the most murders due to crimes of passion but November generates the most serial killers lol ok....


Lol,I love you hypatia!! Seriously your posts always make me think or learn something new!! Esp as a Cancer female (eek). So astrologically do you think there are specific contacts that would occur that would make someone more likely to be a killer? I know you have an extensive knowledge of asteroids, do you do you think that there might be asteroids that might be attributed to this kind of behavior?

I'm not even sure how you could study this...

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posted August 13, 2017 06:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 9thScorpio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
FBI data contradicts what you are saying about mutable signs and violent crimes:

Cancers are those who have the vastest majority of criminal among all the zodiac signs, and they can also be the most violent ones, while the Scorpio as well as the Pisces are also very irritable.

So, according to the records of the FBI, the absolute most dangerous criminals are Cancer, then they are followed by Taurus in the second place, the third place is reserved for Sagittarius, and the fourth place is for the Aries, and the order after that is the following – Capricorn, Virgo, Libra, Pisces, Scorpio, Leo, Aquarius and then Gemini.

The Gemini are at the last place because their crimes are usually not connected to violence, but are connected with frauds and scams.

Cancer are the passion killers, because they can kill almost normally and even leave some marks on the body in order to sign their crime. Taurus are involved in laundering money and they usually act alone on it, without any accomplices at all.

Sagittarius are thieves and crooks, but they rarely do some harm to the victims unless it poses some danger on their lives. Aries are usually hired to commit crimes for other people, and the Capricorn is mostly involved in an organized crime.

Scorpios have emerged as the most sadistic sign and the sign that commits the most murders, and the Virgos are known to be hackers or burglars, Libra are those who are steeped in corruption, and they get involved in crimes connected to drugs very often.

On the other hand, the Gemini is not a very dangerous sign, and this sign is always connected to financial frauds and bloodless thefts. The Leo does not want to deal with any petty crime, so in order to gain fame, they get in a lot of enlarged and organized criminal activities.
http://secretnutritions.com/2017/04/zodiac-signs/


I mean, don't get me wrong, I do agree with what you are saying and I've heard about that list, but crimes out of passion are not the same like serial kills. Not saying there aren't any Cancer serial killers because there are. And my first hand experience can confirm your words. But I won't trash talk my ex boyfriends on the internet. All I can and will say is, when we broke up, it wasn't pretty. The other male Cancer I know was in prison because he was dealing drugs. But again, crimes out of passion and crimes in general are not serial kills.

Also, and I'm not saying Geminis are superior in intelligence department to any other sign, but they can be sneaky smart and they can avoid law just like that. Now, they can be hit or miss because I also know a Gemini who is extremely violent and is psychopath. If I'm not mistaken, his Moon is Aqua but since this is thread about Sun signs, we won't be bringing other placements into play.

Also, if we are speaking of Cancers, they have this Mr. Jekyll/Mr. Hyde moods and in one second they are stabbing you with the needle in the next, they continue to knit sweaters like nothing happened.

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posted August 13, 2017 09:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cappi112     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think there is a lot of confusion on the thread about killer vs. SERIAL killer, which has been clarified a few times already.

Obviously every sign has the potential to do evil. But it is interesting to hear Scorpios are the most sadistic and the types who could potentially become serial killers because in that case... a serial killer kills repeatedly because he/she ENJOYS it, generally. Rarely do they show remorse after, even if they do not want to be caught and lose their freedom.

This cold detached enjoyment of inflicting pain on others is something I actually could see more in a Capricorn or Aquarius than Scorpio. But that's personal experience. Most Scorpios I've met have been total mush on the inside. A mess of sensitivity and empathy for others - even guys. They could be ******** as a result, but not cold serial killer types. A lot of Caps and Aquas I've met in my life could swiftly turn to stone and be unbudging.

For crimes of passion, especially if female, I automatically think of Cancers. Jodi Arias comes to mind. Amanda Knox (I still think that girl is guilty of something in there,sorry), Casey Anthony. That list goes on....

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I am a Cancer sun and I would kill to protect the ones I love with no question. Depends on the situation of coarse but if someone broke into my house with the objective to kill my family, I wouldn't hesitate to blow their head off with a shot gun. I would sleep well at night with no issues. I can't see myself sitting there sitting them down to talk about life choices as my Capricorn daughter puts it. I think Cancers are motivated to act vs thinking.


Regardless of sun sign, I think it has to do with someones moon in their chart and an affliction to it. Possibly mercury but moon is emotions, mind type thing.

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posted August 13, 2017 10:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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This cold detached enjoyment of inflicting pain on others is something I actually could see more in a Capricorn or Aquarius than Scorpio. But that's personal experience. Most Scorpios I've met have been total mush on the inside. A mess of sensitivity and empathy for others - even guys. They could be ******** as a result, but not cold serial killer types. A lot of Caps and Aquas I've met in my life could swiftly turn to stone and be unbudging.

I agree about Capricorn and Aquarius cold detachment. Scorpio is a sign of vengeance, read: reactive, they need an emotional charge to be activated. Serial rapist is more up their alley.

I remember there was story where a Libra w/ Aquarius moon killed his friend and the friend's mom. His motive: I just wanted to hurt somebody. I've also heard Aquarius rationalize their behavior thus; I just wanted to see what a hurt you looks like.

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posted August 13, 2017 11:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cappi112     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by colorful butterfly:
I am a Cancer sun and I would kill to protect the ones I love with no question. Depends on the situation of coarse but if someone broke into my house with the objective to kill my family, I wouldn't hesitate to blow their head off with a shot gun. I would sleep well at night with no issues. I can't see myself sitting there sitting them down to talk about life choices as my Capricorn daughter puts it. I think Cancers are motivated to act vs thinking.


Regardless of sun sign, I think it has to do with someones moon in their chart and an affliction to it. Possibly mercury but moon is emotions, mind type thing.


Au this is interesting. I have always actually FELT like a Cancer - obviously not in any kind of murderous way, lol, but in spite of being a Cap, I feel the emotional, perceptive, sometimes overly-protective maternal instinct over my loved ones that I associate fully with Cancer women.

Most cancers I know are FIERCE. In all the best ways. I think the way you describe it sums it up nicely. Wouldn't wish harm on anyone, but if someone were to threaten your loved ones you would get a shotgun. This is something I can understand.

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posted August 13, 2017 06:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Cappi112:

This cold detached enjoyment of inflicting pain on others is something I actually could see more in a Capricorn or Aquarius than Scorpio. But that's personal experience. Most Scorpios I've met have been total mush on the inside. A mess of sensitivity and empathy for others - even guys. They could be ******** as a result, but not cold serial killer types. A lot of Caps and Aquas I've met in my life could swiftly turn to stone and be unbudging.

For crimes of passion, especially if female, I automatically think of Cancers. Jodi Arias comes to mind. Amanda Knox (I still think that girl is guilty of something in there,sorry), Casey Anthony. That list goes on....


I Love your feedback...

When I think of scorpio killing I feel the motive would be love, to be with someone they love or to protect someone they love or avenge the death of a loved one but not pure enjoyment of killing or like in a war setting to protect its country...

The data I found specifically referred to serial killers which are very rare, in connection to been born in November. My guess is these are scorpios with an afflicted mars and moon but definitely not your average scorpio.

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posted August 13, 2017 10:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by GrlyGirl200:
Lol,I love you hypatia!! Seriously your posts always make me think or learn something new!! Esp as a Cancer female (eek). So astrologically do you think there are specific contacts that would occur that would make someone more likely to be a killer? I know you have an extensive knowledge of asteroids, do you do you think that there might be asteroids that might be attributed to this kind of behavior?

I'm not even sure how you could study this...


Girl I love you too! You are awesome!

I love cancer women, I love been around them. I have a very hard time picturing a female cancer killing anybody! (my sister, my maternal grandmother, best friend from high school and current closest female friend).

But I can see SOME cancer males bc of the testosterone losing it and doing something stupid as emotions take completely over and they are fully in reaction mode.

I would look for both a combination of an afflicted moon and mars and check the final dispositor of the moon and mars and see if that is afflicted or sticks out in some other way like it been a singleton planet or not aspecting anything.

We should post up some charts of serial killers and see what sticks out...

I will try to do that today and at least post one chart of a serial killer....

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