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Empty Spaces
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posted August 12, 2017 04:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Empty Spaces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tpluto conjunct sun
Tsaturn opposite moon

I'm trying to find hope on this hopeless situation 🌸🍃🍃🌸🍃🍃

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posted August 12, 2017 06:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CapriciousCapricorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So Saturn is depressing. What about Pluto?

Well, the good thing is that nothing lasts forever.

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posted August 12, 2017 06:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's like we're going through a 'peel' ... an exfoliation.

If (and when) you can't feel where any joy is, that's when you can think, and remind yourself with your head that 'this too shall pass'... Know this, and think back to times when things were 'different' and Better. The sober/somber/hard won't always be like this. The energies will eventually break apart.

There will be incremental, increasing Refined energies to come and replace what is 'stripped'... {general sky patterns right now}

I understand how easy it is to be in touch with what you 'don't' want as part of your life (emotional, ~whatever) anymore...

What might be harder for some, is imagining "what" you want to come in and Replace anything (negative, old worn out baggage, hurts, angers, ~whatevers) you want to 'simply' and very purely 'just let go of'..


Processing is EXTRA enhanced right now because of the special eclipses.... Like playing board-game of Chutes and Ladders. Accelerated Growth and Evolution-- your soul is being processed. Your job is to just 'be' in it.

That's part of the design from Aug 7 last Lunar Eclipse.. through to New Moon Solar Eclipse coming Aug 21.

That might be why you are feeling things a bit stronger right now?

Stay in your Core. Be as soft and still and centered-Calm as you can be. And, Wait......

BTW..
Saturn bites!.
I've got tSaturn to come back in to square my Moon, while tChiron opposes her.

Everyone is experiencing the Saturn square Chiron for the rest of this year, too. (shadow work energy).

Saturn and Moon .... ugh!!

Shift your focus (as much as you can) to the finer~higher fire frequencies way up and maybe 'background' to you right now.

It's available.... Process what's hard, but then too, TUNE to the straighter, cleaner, higher, brighter energies available 'at the same time'... 'shift' your focus. Sense it, and TAP INTO IT.

(music) Feeling Good (Nina Simone) [2:55] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfJRX-8SXOs

lyrics
Birds flying high you know how I feel
Sun in the sky you know how I feel
Breeze driftin' on by you know how I feel

(refrain x2
It's a new dawn
It's a new day
It's a new life
For me
And I'm feeling good

Fish in the sea you know how I feel
River running free you know how I feel
Blossom on the tree you know how I feel

(refrain)

Dragonfly out in the sun you know what I mean, don't you know
Butterflies all havin' fun you know what I mean
Sleep in peace when day is done
That's what I mean

And this old world is a new world
And a bold world
For me

Stars when you shine you know how I feel
Scent of the pine you know how I feel
Oh freedom is mine
And I know how I feel

This Too Shall Pass....
Ride it out
You Can Do This!

and

You Are Important!

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posted August 12, 2017 06:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Empty Spaces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I didn't know about all this Mirage.Tough times hun? Out!

I think is my whole chart though.It's been all touched by pluto and saturn.My T-square (5 planets) by Tpluto and my moon,my NN by Tsaturn.Only mercury and venus were spared lol but I feel like the pain is much bigger now ever since saturn started to hit my moon,much much bigger.It has to stop.Damn! I'm trying to focus on the lessons behind all this but I can't see it at this moment;unfortunally.

Thanks a lot for that song I need to sing it!!!!! I know I will feel a little better Today while I was listening to mumford and sons "home" I noticed how much I appreciate sad songs lol I love it but hey is not my fault, mumford is pure art.


PLEASE DON'T QUOTE

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posted August 12, 2017 07:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Empty Spaces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by CapriciousCapricorn:
So Saturn is depressing. What about Pluto?

Well, the good thing is that nothing lasts forever.


That's true

Tpluto is depressing too but kinda wake you up.Makes you more aware of your existence,your inner child.Saturn humm..I can't see yet,it is just depressing..it seems.

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posted August 12, 2017 08:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You've got LEO transits ON your Chiron opp Saturn.. Would enhance loneliness and some depression.

Things may brighten more when 'the party' shifts into Libra? ... at least, I really hope so for you.

(music) Things Are Gonna Get Better (David Archuleta, lyrics) [3:28] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rt0_BIV_Z_g

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posted August 12, 2017 09:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Empty Spaces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I hope so too thnx.

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posted August 12, 2017 09:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just know that combined Saturn and Pluto transits to the personal points of your birth chart are tough times. You get through them and it can be like just surviving, not necessarily thriving. You get stronger, but may not feel like it until later.

Pluto conjunct natal Sun is transit of empowerment, but you may not feel it if your self-worth is low. However, it can pull you into action, reactive latent will power and give you a few years in which to begin reshaping yourself and your life.

Saturn opposite natal Moon limits outward scattering of emotional energies so we can 'get ourselves together' inside. It is a time to recede a bit to a different internal balance so we can feel out those more difficult longer-lasting emotions that have been put on the shelf. Especially those emotions that create the foundations of our believes relating to our worth and getting our needs met. We may have to spend some time sorting out domestic issues and meeting our own needs for a while.

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posted August 12, 2017 10:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Empty Spaces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have no willpower now.Unfortunally Tpluto didn't change that.I'm feeling different thought,better than before.

I will be SUPERMAN when I restore...or should I say build my self worth lol

Wow Kannon your interpretation of saturn/moon is perfect.I'm crying my eyes out these days,I'm looking like a fish.I really hope I'm letting go those old emotions that were trapped for so many years.It has to be some healing on these tears amd sorrow.

Thanks a lot

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posted August 12, 2017 10:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The purpose is discovering our fullest empowered potential (Pluto/n.Sun) and draw in enough emotional energy to take an inventory and clear out some of the gunk we're carrying (Saturn/n.Moon).

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posted August 16, 2017 08:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Empty Spaces:
Tpluto conjunct sun
Tsaturn opposite moon

I'm trying to find hope on this hopeless situation 🌸🍃🍃🌸🍃🍃


I don't know. I've lost any spiritual ideas I had about improvements, since the last eight years have been more of a spiritual deadening, not awakening.

Hope: that planet will move on. It will leave you along for a little or a long white, depending on your chart.

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posted August 17, 2017 02:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sulkyarcher     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pluto is brutal.

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posted August 17, 2017 02:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Magikaal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, Pluto transits suck when you're going through them. And Saturn is no fun at all. When Pluto transited my 2nd house I thought I was going to die of poverty lol. EVERYTHING went wrong with my career, no matter how hard I tried.

But these transits will come to an end at some stage. Look forward to that (hold the vision) of the stronger and better you. *Purified*

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posted August 17, 2017 11:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Empty Spaces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by teasel:
I don't know. I've lost any spiritual ideas I had about improvements, since the last eight years have been more of a spiritual deadening, not awakening.

Hope: that planet will move on. It will leave you along for a little or a long white, depending on your chart.



Sorry to hear that! You've been through a pluto transit too?

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posted August 17, 2017 11:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Empty Spaces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Sulkyarcher:
Pluto is brutal.

Yeah

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posted August 18, 2017 12:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Empty Spaces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Magikaal:
Yeah, Pluto transits suck when you're going through them. And Saturn is no fun at all. When Pluto transited my 2nd house I thought I was going to die of poverty lol. EVERYTHING went wrong with my career, no matter how hard I tried.

But these transits will come to an end at some stage. Look forward to that (hold the vision) of the stronger and better you. *Purified*


Really?wow lol
Yeah that's true,thanks for the encouragement.I'm struggling to be a better person.I was depressed before the transit (numb) I just didn't know,I was lashing out on people I like,acting weird.This shake although painful was somehow good for my change. 🍃🍃🌸🌸

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posted August 18, 2017 12:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Empty Spaces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
The purpose is discovering our fullest empowered potential (Pluto/n.Sun) and draw in enough emotional energy to take an inventory and clear out some of the gunk we're carrying (Saturn/n.Moon).


Great definition!I'm looking forward to discover my potencial.

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posted August 18, 2017 02:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Empty Spaces:

Sorry to hear that! You've been through a pluto transit too?

Several. I currently have Pluto moving in and out of a square to my Mercury, and it will move forward to square my Ceres/Chiron/Sun. If I live through that, it will eventually trine my Moon/Venus, sextile my NN, but also square my Uranus/ascendant.

I've already lost my mother, and a lot of self-esteem and comfort in this world, over the last eight years - mainly the past five.

The Uranus-Pluto square, + Saturn, hit me hard from 2010 onwards.

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posted August 18, 2017 04:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sulkyarcher     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Magikaal:
Yeah, Pluto transits suck when you're going through them. And Saturn is no fun at all. When Pluto transited my 2nd house I thought I was going to die of poverty lol. EVERYTHING went wrong with my career, no matter how hard I tried.

But these transits will come to an end at some stage. Look forward to that (hold the vision) of the stronger and better you. *Purified*


Saturn is isolating and depressing!

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posted August 18, 2017 04:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sulkyarcher     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Empty Spaces:
Yeah

I had Pluto transits from 1995 to 2016.

Pluto transit my Sun in Sadge, and Pluto continued into my 10th house into 2016. Brutal!

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posted August 18, 2017 04:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have to stop reading. Saturn will be hitting everything Cardinal, when it moves into Capricorn.

I'd forgotten about Saturn conjunct my Neptune, and my mother's Sun, when she died. Saturn has been a bit easier on me this year, although I'm even more isolated, a lot of the time. Unfortunately, what could have been a better time, has been time for grief instead. And that hasn't ended.

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posted August 18, 2017 03:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sulkyarcher     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by teasel:
I have to stop reading. Saturn will be hitting everything Cardinal, when it moves into Capricorn.

I'd forgotten about Saturn conjunct my Neptune, and my mother's Sun, when she died. Saturn has been a bit easier on me this year, although I'm even more isolated, a lot of the time. Unfortunately, what could have been a better time, has been time for grief instead. And that hasn't ended.


I find that Saturn can be supportive, if you follow his/her signs.

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posted August 18, 2017 08:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Empty Spaces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Teasel


I'm so so sorry to hear that.I really is better for you to not read those things.I've been reading about transits too and I felt more sad.

If you need someone to vent,I'm here.I'm not good with words or advices but I can listen.

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