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Franco
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posted August 16, 2017 06:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Franco     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello community

When it is said that on a natal chart you have a prominent Saturn, things take time...

Okay, what kinds of things are the ones that take a long time? Talk in general? In personal changes? goals?


Example my case: Saturn in Capricorn 19 º 50 'on the ascendant (22 º 29') add that makes conjunctions to neptune / uranus and sextiles to the moon and pluton. As you can see it is powerful and dominant in my natal chart along with pluton.

I ask this question because about 8 years ago I feel the same person as always, I have a hard time changing some attitudes, mistakes I always make ... it's like I'm having trouble growing up. Currently pluton transits the 12th house and is in conjunction with my natal saturn, and very soon will pass through my ascendant, .. also add that Saturn is back and is also entering my house XII. Then .. the change should be imminent here?


Thanks!!

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Kannon McAfee
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posted August 16, 2017 06:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Saturn (Cronus) generally relates to time, often meaning that success or recognition may take longer to achieve. It generally indicates an ambitious person more careful to aim themselves towards a standard of excellence. So it can apply to personal development or worldly success.

With Pluto passing over it and the other natal planets you mentioned, your standards, expectations, and life structures will be transformed. This can be as much psychological as material, but will involved both.

Saturn represents father, the authority of seniority and earned by experience.

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Randall
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posted August 21, 2017 05:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, Kannon.

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Nine
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posted August 21, 2017 09:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Okay, what kinds of things are the ones that take a long time?

Material things that give you pleasure....

Saturn also rules rewards, and hard work. You could see early success with Saturn, but you will have to work really hard, while sacrificing gratification. Twice as hard as others even.

quote:
Talk in general? In personal changes? goals?

Yeah, goals.

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Nine
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posted August 21, 2017 09:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Okay, what kinds of things are the ones that take a long time?

Material things that give you pleasure....

Saturn also rules rewards, and hard work. You could see early success with Saturn, but you will have to work really hard, while sacrificing gratification. Twice as hard as others even.

quote:
Talk in general? In personal changes? goals?

Yeah, goals.

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Franco
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posted August 22, 2017 06:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Franco     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks kannon and Nine

The change of personality can come with the transit pluto on the ascendant?

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sarahhm
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posted August 22, 2017 11:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sarahhm     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Another perspective on Saturn:

It doesn't make things difficult really - what it does is strip away your sense of entitlement in that area of your chart.

It's something you have to work for. Saturn going through my 7/8th house was getting rid of that sense of entitlement to how other people treated me, the money that I thought they should spend on me. Things like that. Stuff that came easy before the transit - resulting in the entitlement then gets stripped away.

So yes Saturn is like the father, the disciplinarian but at the same time there's another way of looking at Saturn which is looking at it's sign - Capricorn which is a feminine sign. Saturn has been seen, old old old times, as an grandmother.

So I prefer to see Saturn as that old tough love wisdom matriarch like Olenna Tyrell.

I see this discipline 'The Father' actually to be Uranian energy. Aquarius is masculine also ruled by Saturn.

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