posted August 17, 2017 05:46 AM            

My 12th house is Libra, and it's more that I have the rug pulled out from under me, when it comes to other people. I finally start to relax and trust someone, and then they pull the rug out. Not everyone, thank goodness. They also rarely admit to being at fault for anything.

posted August 17, 2017 05:13 PM            

But I have experienced that my own colleague has a secret affair with my (ex) boyfriend.

I didn't know her at all, but I remembered her when I felt really awkward someone looking at me intensely while I was walking in the hallway alone, I thought she maybe a lesbian. No, she wasn't. She then added me on Facebook, I saw her name and I didn't remember if I had a friend with her name. So I did picking up a little bit information from her profile and saw one of the mutual friend is my (ex) boyfriend. So I thought, okay, she was not a creepy stranger. -- I completely forgot about the hallway situation.

I never suspicious in my relationship at the time, of course, because he has moon/venus conjunction, a sweetheart in the eyes of the outsiders. He showed me he got jealous, a little bit possessive, showed others how he looked fall in love with me. -- which later I have found some of his actions just want to win other people's attention/approval.

until I had a very strange dream where, it was kind of blurred, but the dream showed me some women and they were all associated with him, the dream told me I knew one or two women but the dream more focused on this one blurred girl like it zoomed out. I told him about the strange dream because it felt real and painful but I didn't know who and why and what it meant and I said it like a casual talk. I remembered he was just in silent.

Then I got more similar dreams which made me thinking what kind of message it tried to tell me? Short story, I did some research/investigation and found out he was cheating with her. Then the relationship became a hell. lol.

I think she got jealous of me because I got so many attention from the opposite sex (she is a Leo sun woman, so, yeah, you know what happen if you are at the same table and you get all the attention), and he was one of well-liked and creative person in the group. Our relationship kind of attract the attention of our colleagues, even after our bad break up.

Is she one of the secret enemy? I don't know, what would you call it?

posted August 20, 2017 12:58 AM            

I've had serious disputes with female Scorpio suns and Scorpio risers.

With the males both sun/ascendant...were on the same page and end things fairly.

I think its because Scorpio males know Gemini's evil twin and Gemini knows Scorpios nasty sting.

Scorpio females are a little different, there are some sweet ones and I can name a couple sweet Scorpio Females on lindaland but there are also some nasty ones too. Its very important I make that distinction.

Being a fixed sign they always have to have there own way even if its not possible. That's were I've won my arguments against a Scorpio female. Were I'm willing to adjust to admit the situation has changed there still going on with the same "gameplan".

When ticked there atrocious and there's no secret about it when Gemini is ticked most people will have only seen the good twin... and not the nasty one so there's an element of surprise or disbelief.

Off topic I'm also partly watching my Grandma, my family is terrified or tired of dealing with my Scorpio aunt that has taken control of her care.

I'm the only one brave enough to step up to my Scorpio aunt. If she does anything wrong with my grandmas care or I don't agree on what shes doing she will be in for a surprise from my other twin.

I know how nasty she can be and how nice she can be since shes displayed it. So I know how to deal with her but she hasn't seen my bad side.

I have two great stories which I will save for another day how I dealt with a Scorpio female colleague and a Leo Sun/ Scorpio ascendant colleague.

All I will say is karama is a pain in the a$$ so treat your colleagues fairly, if you have issues later no one will support or watch your back later leaving you isolated and vulnerable.

posted August 20, 2017 01:58 AM            

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Originally posted by DualGemV2:

All I will say is karama is a pain in the a$$ so treat your colleagues fairly, if you have issues later no one will support or watch your back later leaving you isolated and vulnerable.

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It hasn't been karma, for me. I've always wondered what brought something on, and done my best to be fair. I've been a lot like Libra is supposed to be, I guess.

It definitely isn't karma that was earned. I dealt with an attack out of nowhere a few weeks ago, I mentioned that in another thread, and then deleted it. When I freaked out and responded - because it was a direct, unexpected attack - they apologized immediately. I was so upset, I was sick. Over the next couple of days, I got angry, as I felt better.

This stuff always comes out of nowhere, or I'll sense that something is going to happen, try to figure out from where. I'm actually awake right now, after being up too long earlier, and falling asleep in a chair. I woke up to change out of my jeans, and turn the heating on, because I was freezing, and now I can't get back to sleep, because everything that worries me, or has upset me over the last so many years, crowded into my head. They're all there, partying away, so I got up to try to distract myself.

The one thing I can see when it comes to shooting myself in the foot, is that I'm so depressed, that I no longer care a lot of the time, what people think - especially if they have contributed to that depression. I've seen people so be so proud of their ability to lash out and hurt people - that wouldn't make me proud, at all. The situation I mentioned in my first post, was something so stupid that I couldn't believe it happened more than once, and finally stopped trusting the person who was always at the centre of it. I can't stand having my head messed with, or seeing it happen to others - people who contribute to paranoia like that.

Someone I know was talking about still having empathy, even when angry, and I'm the same way. It's weird to feel empathy and anger intertwined, but they're always there. I understand when someone is at fault and won't admit it, it's due to something they can't face about themselves. Paranoia, thanks to betrayal, is what led me to having less of a filter, and some might see me as batshit, but I don't care. I've spent my whole life trying to be understanding, and to not be offensive. To be kind, and leave people better than I found them - only to have the opposite done to me, either because someone couldn't take the truth about a relationship (a family thing), or because someone couldn't admit their own failing - or they just had fun causing trouble.

posted August 21, 2017 06:30 PM            

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Originally posted by aquagembaby:
thats interesting and very revealing with the dream you had^

maybe sometimes 'enemy' may not even be an actual person. it can even be addictions or vices we may have.

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Yes, I get traumatized by it. This repeatedly happens to my next relationship. After I wake up, I will feel very cold and start trembling although I get sweat.

It's hard for me to stop the trembling of my body if I don't force my brain to think something else, the good things, like my family, Mom and Dad, brother and sisters, nephews and niece, because my brain will spin faster and faster trying to find the missing puzzle of what message the dream want to tell me and it really hurts me in a way like my head in the dark clouds. In the past I couldn't stop it, I even didn't know how I then fell asleep, I think I got passed out. lol.

12th house may associate with spiritual thing too, may be?

posted August 23, 2017 06:59 PM            

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Originally posted by hearttreasure:
Yes, I get traumatized by it. This repeatedly happens to my next relationship. After I wake up, I will feel very cold and start trembling although I get sweat.

It's hard for me to stop the trembling of my body if I don't force my brain to think something else, the good things, like my family, Mom and Dad, brother and sisters, nephews and niece, because my brain will spin faster and faster trying to find the missing puzzle of what message the dream want to tell me and it really hurts me in a way like my head in the dark clouds. In the past I couldn't stop it, I even didn't know how I then fell asleep, I think I got passed out. lol.

12th house may associate with spiritual thing too, may be?

Hmm, I don't think I have some addiction, as I don't smoke, drink, or spend so much time online. Vices? I don't think I can do that as my moon/jupiter put so much high on morality things.

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posted August 30, 2017 12:08 PM            

My 12th house is empty in pladicus, but my Moon is in there in my equal chart.

I heard about being this the house of secret enemies, but I don't seem to have any problems with Virgos.

posted August 31, 2017 03:38 AM            

I've had several situations in the past where I've been working my butt off, literally giving a goal my all, and have found out that *someone* was attempting to undermine my goals. And while that's life, to some degree, in the sense that there is always going to be someone who is unhappy with the fact that someone is a go-getter and an overachiever, it's always really bothered me that someone could be lying to me and deceiving me while pretending to be my friend/ally. I've felt this way a lot recently, now that Pluto has started it's transit through my 12th house and is currently sitting on my Saturn. It's hard not to be paranoid and be secretive when you're not sure who you can trust. I've definitely learned to be careful with who I talk to, and how much I tell them. I've also learned to trust my gut instinct - if I feel like someone is untrustworthy, there's probably a reason I feel that way, and it's not because I'm being paranoid...paying attention to cues like that help. But in the end, sometimes you can't help but get burned. All I can hope to do is minimize the damage by protecting myself.

posted September 02, 2017 01:05 AM            

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Originally posted by StubbornVirgo:
Yeah, I have a lot of planets that will cross over my ASC in the upcoming years...both Pluto and Saturn will. It will definitely be interesting to see what happens. Hopefully I survive both of them.

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posted September 03, 2017 02:00 PM            

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Originally posted by aquagembaby:
thats interesting and very revealing with the dream you had^

maybe sometimes 'enemy' may not even be an actual person. it can even be addictions or vices we may have.

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posted September 03, 2017 02:23 PM            

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The sign for my 12th house is Sagittarius. Sag females have backstabbed me in the past. They are okay at a distance, but I've learned to not be close friends with Sag females. The ones I've interacted with have been exceedingly dishonest.

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posted September 03, 2017 02:33 PM            

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Originally posted by Astra:
The sign for my 12th house is Sagittarius. Sag females have backstabbed me in the past. They are okay at a distance, but I've learned to not be close friends with Sag females. The ones I've interacted with have been exceedingly dishonest.

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