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The Astrology of Music Genre: HIP HOP IS LEO SUN SIGN

Happy Belated Birthday to the Music Genre Hip Hop. It’s very fitting that Hip Hop’s Sun sign is Leo. Yes events, cities, locations, and non-physical things can have natal charts.

If you didn’t know Hip Hop was born on August 11th 1973, making it 44 years old. Google.com had a Doodle on it’s homepage celebrating and commemorating Hip Hop’s date of birth. Google’s interactive Doodle had an oral history lesson of Hip Hop and also turntables with records that you can scratch on. I had fun messing with it and Dj-ing during work.

Note: Hip Hop’s time of birth (TOB) is 9:00 pm, the original 1973 flyer can be found online.


Hip Hop was started in the Bronx, NY by Black, African-American, and Hispanic Community. Hip Hop’s birth is attributed to Clive Campbell aka DJ Herc (short for Hercules), a Jamaican-American DJ. During this infamous party he scratched a record of an instrumental beat and allowed a prolong dance break in his DJ set for dancing and freestyling at his sister’s birthday party. His pioneering party and DJ-ing piece together all four elements of hip hop. The four elements are one: scratching aka breaking or DJ-ing, two: MC-ing/Rapping, three: break dancing, and four: graffiti art.

By the way I did a quick natal chart for hip hop’s “founder” DJ Herc. He’s an Aries Sun conjunct Mercury with an Aquarius moon, Pisces Venus, Gemini Mars, and North Node in Sagittarius. Piecing that all together Dj Herc is very rebellious, independent, and creative person with the sensitivity, knowledge and foresight to connect with others through music/art.

Anyway let’s get into Hip Hop’s Astrology.


Leo Sun in the 6th House.
Hip Hop’s Sun is in Leo in the 6th House, which means there is pride and confidence in routine, job habits, and health. This is not really relevant since Hip Hop isn’t a person and this context Hip Hop is an event. However I decided to include on here.

Capricorn Moon in the 11th House. Jupiter in Aquarius is also in the 11th House
Hip Hop has a Capricorn moon in the 11th House. This means that Hip Hop’s emotions is tided into the collective consciousness. The 11th House is the house of friendships, organizations, groups, dreams, and aspirations. It is ruled by Aquarius/Uranus. This is one of the reasons why Hip Hop took off. It tapped into the emotions of the poor, disenfranchised, oftentimes powerless and overlooked youth and minorities.

Random but Capricorn doesn’t get enough props and respect as a creative, inventive, and musical zodiac sign and force. Capricorn/Saturnian influenced music is known for its use of structure, timing, and earthy world influences. There is also a misconception that Capricorn moons specifically don’t have feelings or can’t express emotions. Capricorn do have feelings and can express emotions but oftentimes don’t choose to show it outwardly due to fear of vulnerability and appearing weak.

Capricorn/Saturnian music and musicians are disciplined and they take the TIME to learn everything they can know about their genre or musical instrument they are interested in. They don’t take the easy way out, or short cuts. #Blood.Sweat.Tears.Sacrifice.Capricorn’s motto.

Jupiter in Aquarius is also in the 11th, which means that it amplifies and expands all the energy in the 11th House. This is also creative energy that represents means that all about freedom for all, equality, and rooting for the underdog. Expansive, interactive people focused/driven art form that is embraced around the world. A force of nature.

Ascendant in Pisces
1st House has Chiron (Aries) and Mars (Aries)
Hip Hop has an Ascendant in Pisces. Pisces Ascendant is sensitive, compassionate and open to the world/plight of others. Even so, Hip Hop’s ascendant behaves in a bit of an Aries way. Chiron and Mars in Aries are both in the 1st House/Ascendant. So there’s a natural aggressive, energetic nature (Mars) to Hip Hop.

There is also a misconception/misrepresentation/reputation (Chiron) that hip hop is violent, negative, and poisoning. Of course elements of these things exist in the culture but it is also about fighting, survival, and competition. If you confused look up that racist guy Darwin’s Survival of the Fittest Theory. It’s interesting to note that Hip Hop is using it’s Chiron against itself healing others while harming/reshaping itself.

One thing about Hip Hop is that it is definitely misunderstood and clouded in mystery and confusion. Aka very Piscean. Example I have seen comments online saying that hip hop is not an art form (which is outrageous and ignorant to me).

Saturn (Cancer) in the 4th House
Hip Hop has Saturn in Cancer in the 4th House, which means that it’s sensitive upbringing/early life/home is a bit rough and hard. Though Hip Hop is not a person, this is very relevant. Hip Hop started out as a way for marginalized people to creatively and productively express their experiences (of mostly poverty, broken homes, and traumatic experiences). It’s about life’s limitations and struggles. This placement is very fitting.

Mercury in Leo in the 5th House
Hip Hop has mercury in Leo in the 5th House, so there is definitely a Gemini sort of way. The need to communicate is pretty much an addiction and coupled with the sign Leo, it’s explosive. The fifth house is naturally ruled by Leo/The Sun so mercury is at home. This communication is confident, creative, proud, and in need of approval/attention/an audience.

7th House Stellium
One of the most important part is Hip Hop’s chart is the 7th House stellium. As you guys know the 7th House is the house of relationships, partnerships, and projection. Hip Hop’s 7th House is ruled by a Virgo Venus, Pluto and Uranus both in Libra. This means that Hip Hop’s relationships themes are based on the behavior and urge to offer up itself to the world in a rebellious/liberated (Uranus), transformative/powerful (Pluto) and carnal, earthy and people-oriented way (Venus).

Extreme Criticism of Hip Hop includes:
That Hip Hop is degenerate, tasteless, class-less, and vulgar music that poisons youths minds. Hip Hop is very polarizing. Ring: What planet does this sound like? Hello Pluto anyone?

That Hip Hop is Materialistic, vain, and only appeals to the ego/impulses/lower sensual natures of Man.
Ring: What planet does this sound like? Hello Venus? Hello Bosch’s the Garden of Earthly delights anyone?

That Hip Hop encourages anarchy, chaos, resistance to authority/law/rules, and the breakdown of society.
Ring: What planet does this sound like? Uranus anyone?


Not saying that these criticism are not dipped in truth/accuracy but a lot of these criticism also has to do with projection. Hip Hop reflects and mirrors back to us our times, our culture, our society, and our flaws. It’s not completely “perfect”or “structured” like other musical genres. Not trying to be too political/socially conscious but it’s also dipped in racism, classism, and xenophobia. Hip Hop was started by black people and according to the modern world and unnatural systems placed centuries ago, black/melanin-ated people are at the bottom of the racial totem pole. P.S. I don’t believe that **** , we popping (Cardi B voice). Best believe society’s flaws and reactions are mirrored back to Hip Hop.

Neptune in the 9th House
Neptune in Sagittarius in the 9th House is the icing sprinkles on the Hip Hop natal chart. Neptune effects is similar to Jupiter except that it’s more reactive, sensitive and murky. The 9th House is the house of education, higher learning, spirituality, and travel. Neptune in Sagittarius in the 9th House is all about creatively challenging, breaking down and transforming boundaries in an organic fluid way.

10th House
Hip Hop’s North Node is in Sagittarius in the 10th House and is the sprinkles of this natal chart. We were destined to have Hip Hop and for it to fuel and push forward human culture forward. Makes ceative cosmic exploring a business and a career.

Overall I can go on and on, but I don’t have time for that **** and this will become a 10 page novel.

Alternative Birthday for Hip Hop

Interesting enough there is also an Alternative Hip Hop Birthday created by one of the hip hop legends, Afrika Bambataa (from Universal Zulu Nation group).

He’s stated that the birthday of hip hop is November 12th 1974.

His reasoning is that by this time hip hop had established itself and was widespread/more accessible to the public and hungry creative minds. I did a natal chart for the alternative birthday. The Alternative chart has a 5 planet Scorpio Stellium (Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, and Mars all in Scorpio). Jupiter is in Pisces.

Either chart works for me, but I resonate more with the original chart, first because it’s the first and earlier chart (in terms of date/timing) and second because this chart is a bit more fitting for me. I would note that logically and honestly you can’t really pin point a start of a music genre/culture/way of life but with Hip Hop’s Leo date it represents its birth and realm into the earthy consciousness, not it’s conception.

Anyway I hope this informative, interesting, and insightful. Peace out.

Sources:
Article by complex.com, How Aug. 11 Became Hip-Hop's Birthday http://www.complex.com/music/2017/08/how-august-11-became-hip-hop-birthday
telegraph.uk, How was hip hop born? Google Doodle marks 44 years since the movement began
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2017/08/11/hip-hop-born-music-cultural-revolution-spanning-44-years/

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posted August 18, 2017 07:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted August 21, 2017 07:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TensionEmpire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
nice article!
yeahh hip hop has much power! fits with the sun! and all this layd backthink, sooo much leoo!

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posted August 21, 2017 11:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MilaBirkin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's so cool! I love hip hop. I love to dance, so much.

I have Mars in Leo conjunct hip hop's sun , trine Jupiter in Sagittarius, opposite Venus(8). Sun/Saturn in Pisces conjunct that Ascendant. Moon opposite Moon, Moon conjunct Neptune/Uranus. Venus opposite Sun. Moon/Neptune/Uranus square Mars.

Thank you! This is interesting.

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posted August 21, 2017 03:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is there a diff between Rap and Hip Hop? Hip Hop has its roots in revolutionaries who have a message in their lyrical content. Usually about social injustice and oppression.

Rap is secular and bases its existence on trends, bravado, being sexually unapologetic, machismo and lacks substance.

The term Mc is for the one with the microphone. A sort of metaphorical voice to speak for or on behalf of others. But i wouldn't call the many "Mc'S" that exist as socially conscious.

In order to be more commercial and have a wider audience, many Mc's have crossed over to sell pop and be more appealing to the Pop genre.

Rap is the lighter version of Hip Hop. But the two are now seen as synonymous- as if to suggest that anyone who can spit rhymes is worthy of being called an "Mc".

For me , A tribe called quest is hip hop.
50 cent, Jay Z is rap.

Rap is Leo/Gemini. Hip hop is Pisces/ Aquarius

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posted August 23, 2017 12:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astrofiend     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Is there a diff between Rap and Hip Hop? Hip Hop has its roots in revolutionaries who have a message in their lyrical content. Usually about social injustice and oppression.

Rap is secular and bases its existence on trends, bravado, being sexually unapologetic, machismo and lacks substance.

The term Mc is for the one with the microphone. A sort of metaphorical voice to speak for or on behalf of others. But i wouldn't call the many "Mc'S" that exist as socially conscious.

In order to be more commercial and have a wider audience, many Mc's have crossed over to sell pop and be more appealing to the Pop genre.

Rap is the lighter version of Hip Hop. But the two are now seen as synonymous- as if to suggest that anyone who can spit rhymes is worthy of being called an "Mc".

For me , A tribe called quest is hip hop.
50 cent, Jay Z is rap.

Rap is Leo/Gemini. Hip hop is Pisces/ Aquarius


Are you in your 40s'? Do you come from NYC/East Coast?

I use hip hop and rap interchangeably. There are four elements of hip hip with rap being one. Rap has always been the center of hip hop even when the other elements(scratching aka breaking or DJ-ing, break dancing, and graffiti art) had more prominence/importance. Through out the years hip hop has kinda forgotten about most of the other elements.

I consider modern rap music hip hop. I'm not one of those music snobs who think all mainstream music after 2001 is crap. The value/content has gone down a lot but I can't knock someone for getting their hustle on, expressing themselves creatively, or speaking their truth/fantasy.

If you want to make distinctions that's ok. I would say that we need both the good and bad. The low brow and high brow. I'm part of the Pluto in Scorpio generation, so I can see the light in the darkness, the pearl in the oyster and all that flowery crap. The older generations didn't dealt with their **** , so I guess we are here to fuucck everything up a bit.

Do you consider NWA/West Coast music hip hop?

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posted August 23, 2017 12:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Primarose220     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Is there a diff between Rap and Hip Hop? Hip Hop has its roots in revolutionaries who have a message in their lyrical content. Usually about social injustice and oppression.

Rap is secular and bases its existence on trends, bravado, being sexually unapologetic, machismo and lacks substance.

The term Mc is for the one with the microphone. A sort of metaphorical voice to speak for or on behalf of others. But i wouldn't call the many "Mc'S" that exist as socially conscious.

In order to be more commercial and have a wider audience, many Mc's have crossed over to sell pop and be more appealing to the Pop genre.

Rap is the lighter version of Hip Hop. But the two are now seen as synonymous- as if to suggest that anyone who can spit rhymes is worthy of being called an "Mc".

For me , A tribe called quest is hip hop.
50 cent, Jay Z is rap.

Rap is Leo/Gemini. Hip hop is Pisces/ Aquarius


I love oldschool hiphop, I guess because i have Aquarius/Pisces on the first house, and sun, moon, mercury, with Jupiter in Aquarius and Sagittarius in 11th house Along with Uranus in Sagittarius in 10th house.

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