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Chaitaly
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posted August 28, 2017 07:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chaitaly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Hello everybody,

maybe someone has already asked this question...
I'm curious about: how do you interpret intercepted houses and their lord(s) in a natal chart?

Let's say in a natal chart we see the 11th house in Virgo and the 12th house cusp is in Virgo too. How would Mercury rule two such different houses?

Or the cusps of 6th and 7th house both in Aries. Does it mean that Mars rules both houses?

If you (professional astrologer) are reading a natal chart, how do you read this?

How does it affect the person when one planet is the lord of multiple houses (2 or 3)?
What do you tell to the client?
And how could it show its effects in real life?

Hope it's an interesting question!!

Thank you!

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Aries23Degrees
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posted August 28, 2017 09:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There are articles on this subject.

My understanding is that if there is a double emphasis on a sign/respective ruler etc. It could mean the native will have to learn to exercise those traits associated with that sign/ruler.

So if Aries-Libra is emphasized, self assertion and learning to work with others.

Taurus-Scorpio , accumulation of security and learning to let go of things that don't matter

Gemini-Sagittarius, sharing knowledge but continuosly studying etc.

Some people don't believe in intercepted houses, some do. It depends on the author of the article.

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Chaitaly
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posted August 28, 2017 01:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chaitaly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Do you recommend any article in particular?

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Some people don't believe in intercepted houses, some do. It depends on the author of the article.



What does it mean they don't believein intercepted houses? Like they don't take them into account?

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Aries23Degrees
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posted August 28, 2017 03:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well with the whole debate on house systems, not all astrologers agree. So u need to draw ur own conclusions.

Google intercepted houses, some things may pop up. I personally think there could be merit to it.

Intercepted Aries may have one not be able to take charge or be the type who speculates/ daydreams a lot, but take no action. When they do, it goes towards burnout.

Libra intercepted may mean being unable to either see oneself as an equal to others or seeing others as unequal to you. This leads to a servant-master type of relation, treating others as your servants or seeing yourself as a servant to others.

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Kannon McAfee
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posted August 28, 2017 04:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Chaitaly:
Hello everybody,

maybe someone has already asked this question...
I'm curious about: how do you interpret intercepted houses and their lord(s) in a natal chart?

Let's say in a natal chart we see the 11th house in Virgo and the 12th house cusp is in Virgo too.


That is not a house interception situation. That house pair (5th & 11th) is a shorter arc span, so look for what house may be expanded in size. IF the Asc is really accurate, then houses that engulf an entire sign fully are interceptions. Such a house pair can take on added significance, because a longer arc takes longer for planets to transit or progress.

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How would Mercury rule two such different houses?

The same way it would 'rule' one house.

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Or the cusps of 6th and 7th house both in Aries. Does it mean that Mars rules both houses?

Yes.

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If you (professional astrologer) are reading a natal chart, how do you read this?

The same way I read any other house cusps. There's nothing special or different really going on there.

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How does it affect the person when one planet is the lord of multiple houses (2 or 3)?

There is no specific effect from that alone. The planetary rulers are the same, that is all.

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What do you tell to the client?

Nothing about this in particular. It has no special interpretation.

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And how could it show its effects in real life?

Already answered.

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posted August 29, 2017 02:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chaitaly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Thank you Kannon.

I will take my time and read something more about it.

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Kannon McAfee
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posted August 29, 2017 05:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just understand that in much of the published literature and among many astrologers, the misapplication of the notion of 'interception' abounds. The one you've used to start this thread is sign-based. It assumes that each house cusp 'should' have a different sign over the cusp. Such assumptions seem to create other weird notions in many people's minds. Like it is unusual for a birth chart to not have a different sign over each cusp, therefore something must be amiss.

Interception is a term borrowed from geometry and often distorted when applied to the chart. It has nothing to do with signs, but with interception of an arc -- a whole arc by an angle.

Here is a good page to read right here on LL where I explain this with references and illustrations:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/227867.html

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posted August 29, 2017 08:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonMystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Both my Aquarius house
and Leo are swallowed up
by the signs Taurus/Scorpio.
(Matter of fact I read
something relating to these
2 signs relationshipto Egypt.
It makes sense, my first house
if flooded with Egyptian asteroids
and fixed stars.)

Maybe you can better study the
signs missing as well the
excess energy your chart carries.
As far as spiritually, there
could even be a theme. Habits
and shortcomings in life are
what most astrologers study.

One book I read, IDR the book,
exclaimed what lessons we get
from these intercepted houses.
It was pretty accurate for me, I
I'm great at beginning but I fail
to follow through. I'm improving
though!


I read mine (although I'm fairly
new to this) as a blend of energy.
For instance I have Sun, Moon Aqua
but they sit in the house ruled
by Capricorn. This levels out
some of my flighty behavior, due
to the Earth energy (I'm less
Tinkerbell and more Tigerlily).
I have yet to learn more.

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posted September 03, 2017 09:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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StubbornVirgo
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posted September 03, 2017 10:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StubbornVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's an example of intercepted signs. Ignore the SR part - pay attention to the "inner" circle. I have Virgo-Pisces axis intercepted in my 1st and 7th house. Consequently, both my 4th and 5th house cusps fall in Gemini and my 10th and 11th house cusps fall in Sagittarius.

I used to be more interested in the intercepted houses/signs, but I've found that the interpretation varies widely depending on the astrology. Some astrologers lean more towards the idea that because the whole sign is "locked" in a house, that those qualities are harder to "access" or that they're blocked in some way. I have 3 planets in Virgo - it's safe to say that those qualities are not locked away but very apparent. Pisces in my 1st is more of a mystery, however. I do not look like a Pisces ASC - I do have watery characteristics, but this is more closely aligned with Pluto in Scorpio square my ASC.

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