posted August 29, 2017 09:54 AM            

Imagine one day for ex you two have a great interaction, talking about deep stuff, personal problems, family etc. And you feel so connected and feel strong feelings.

The day after maybe you arrive at school waitig for your crush to arrive, and there is so much tension and feelings building a pressure inside of you (mentally and feelings wise) that when your crush comes up to you, with a warm smile on his/her face, all of the sudden you feel you have to maintain some control and acting COLD and uncaring!

It’s like out of nowhere you hit the break so hard and harshly you almost give yourself and your crush a mental whiplash injury? Do you know how I mean?
And your “crush” gets really confused at the beginning, and then that person starts to mirror back your energy and the whole interaction is cold and weird. You part ways soon after while you are kicking yourself for acting so weird.

Ok, so I came to the conclusion this is the planet Saturn in action, but I may be wrong of course. I can’t find any good info about this.

My Moon , Mars and Chiron is opposite Saturn. And my Venus is trine Saturn. I also have Scorpio Pluto oppo my Sun and mercury, so dunno, maybe it’s a Plutonic thing?

posted August 29, 2017 01:52 PM            

I have Venus-Saturn . I get like that. But i know how to switch it off too. I use it to defend against unwanted advances.

I think its a defense mechanism. But it is self- sabotaging if u use it against those u actually like. I have Moon-Mars square and so that helps too I guess. I get easily excited.

Look, everyone is scared of being rejected. But if enthusiasm is clearly shown by someone you like, run with it. Its hard to love a wall. There is only so much warmth one can give without feeling it back. So please give back.

My advice: Knock it off!

posted August 29, 2017 03:07 PM            

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Originally posted by charlie:
I have Venus conj Saturn op Moon. In Cap nonetheless.
I can be very warm, if I like someone, but the minute I feel there's something "off" I become ice cold instead.
I also don't like people being desperate, especially men! I prefer to do the chasing and if it's reciprocated it's all good. If not, I'll walk away without a notice. If they change their minds after a while it won't help; I've moved on.

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Oh thats quite a Saturn/capri energy!
I can relate to that! It's like the person poors down a bucket with ice cold water over you, yikes!

Although I'm too much of a scorpio/aries, I like pain and suffering ahaha ( ) So I can't almost bare to walk out on someone if I'm attached. Which is bad, really bad

posted August 29, 2017 11:24 PM            

He has natally moon square saturn actually and says he usually has flat affect and is kind of bitter but with me he is always smiling. I totally have an effect on him putting his guard down but I feel in my case until Saturn stops squaring my Moon I will be controlling how far this goes emotionally for me, instead of letting go and surrendering.

posted August 30, 2017 06:06 AM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
Yes, we do, and we don't know why we do it.

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Randall, I don't know psychology that well, but I'm so fascinated by the astrology and psychology connections.

I'm sure there is a name for this kind of behaviour other then "self-sabotaging" .

Do you know about the "attachment theory"?

It's "a psychological model that attempts to describe the dynamics of long-term and short-term interpersonal relationships between humans".

And there is 3 types of people according to this. One is the "ambivalent" type. Those who craves closeness, but has learned as a child that it will be abandoned (not always physically but emotionally) sooner or later, so the child and later the adult thinks it will be abondedned after he/she has recieved emotional closenes so he/she does wanna prevent feeling hurt at withdraws.

I don't like this theory that much. It feels too simplistic to me. And humans are much more complex then this theory describes it!

posted August 30, 2017 12:10 PM            

I natally have moon in pisces square neptune so I typically wear my heart in my sleeve and my boundaries can be porous but someone with Moon square Saturn can have boundaries that are too rigid or they have found that balance were they are open enough to develop feelings and let those feelings develop over time but are also protecting their hearts.

posted August 30, 2017 04:21 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Attachment theory can play into Saturn in hard aspect to Moon but it could also manifest as someone who is cautious in a healthy way if they are managing that energy in a positive way.

I natally have moon in pisces square neptune so I typically wear my heart in my sleeve and my boundaries can be porous but someone with Moon square Saturn can have boundaries that are too rigid or they have found that balance were they are open enough to develop feelings and let those feelings develop over time but are also protecting their hearts.

My experience with having natal moon square neptune while Transit saturn is squaring my moon is just that, I am letting myself develop feelings but I am also cautious and going slow. I am not putting a wall per say but I am not letting go all the way and putting myself in a super vulnerable position. I am managing my expectations and not getting lost in Neptune but also enjoying the connection and love that is been given to me so freely. In a nutshell I am not pushing him away, I am letting feelings develop but I am also protecting myself and managing my expectations in a healthy way.

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Thank you so much for sharing!

Yes I agree with you! It's only healthy to manage ones expectations. And of course Saturn energy is just about finding that balance. Luckily I myself have an Aries Venus conj Jupiter in the 8th house. That gives a lot f warmth. And also a strong pluto energy, that one is tricky but it makes me to almost never wanna give up when I'm attached.

I'm happy for you! How you have find balance with neptune square moon and now also the saturn in the mix. Thats great! I hope everything will be great with your relationship

I have made some more research about this "pulling back" men seems to do (but also women). If one search "Why does men withdraw/pull back" etc, you will find so much nonsense! Ok, maybe not completely nonsense, but lots of the texts is just saying "men withdraw, deal with it!". Not satisfying for my pluto mercury, at all!

And then I found much better presented info, when one search for "Emotional distancing". I found this site managed by a someone called "shrink lady" https://myshrink.com/emotional-distancing/. And it made so much sense. It really screams Saturn to me

posted August 30, 2017 04:28 PM            

In two instances the transit moon is conjunct the natal saturn. In one instance the moon is oppo natal Saturn. In one other, the moon is square the Saturn. All of this is exact aspects.

posted September 03, 2017 07:22 AM            

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Originally posted by Einfühlung:
I thought I was the one to blame(natal Venus square Saturn) when it came to the person I liked being really distant from me. I just checked the transits of when he started being distant and, of course, moon transit squared his Saturn. And now Saturn transit is square his moon. No wonder *sigh*.. I had the courage to open myself up to him and things were going great. Then all of a sudden, he went cold. We haven't talked for 3 months

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I'm so sorry he acts cold to you. It really is like a slap on the face, I know
I hope he will soon get past the negative energy and pull himself together.

posted September 03, 2017 08:33 AM            

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Originally posted by charlie:
I have Venus conj Saturn op Moon. In Cap nonetheless.
I can be very warm, if I like someone, but the minute I feel there's something "off" I become ice cold instead.
I also don't like people being desperate, especially men! I prefer to do the chasing and if it's reciprocated it's all good. If not, I'll walk away without a notice. If they change their minds after a while it won't help; I've moved on.

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I have Venus conj Saturn too and agree. if I like someone then I am very warm and will keep being in contact. But yes, the moment I don't feel reciprocation, I am done

posted September 03, 2017 08:51 AM            

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Originally posted by Einfühlung:
I thought I was the one to blame(natal Venus square Saturn) when it came to the person I liked being really distant from me. I just checked the transits of when he started being distant and, of course, moon transit squared his Saturn. And now Saturn transit is square his moon. No wonder *sigh*.. I had the courage to open myself up to him and things were going great. Then all of a sudden, he went cold. We haven't talked for 3 months

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posted September 03, 2017 12:17 PM            

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Originally posted by Einfühlung:
Yeah, Melinn and Koniucha, it's been eating me up because there's no closure and I'm left to wonder. His saturn return just started 2 months ago. It's highly possible that he's just been so caught up with saturn stuff because my advances towards him to hang out were rejected (he even had an award that he couldn't go to and accept around that time either)due to him being so busy with things..Damn you, Saturn. I hope we all get through this. (and quick because I am getting close to impatient because of the pain)

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For me, I met someone online about a year ago, but we have not met in person yet. He is in a neighboring state, so not a big deal really. We really got along so well and were able to talk about so much. I made plans twice to go there and meet, but he basically shot both times down. He has been going through a lot from what he said, but I feel very unmotivated right now and have not contacted him lately. For now, unless he invites me and follows through, I will call it done.