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CapriciousCapricorn
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posted September 04, 2017 10:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CapriciousCapricorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In advance, thank you to everyone who will have a look at this puzzle! I'll try to be as accurate as possible with information.

This is my progressed chart. The orbs are reduced to 30% on astro.com so only what's 'active' and matters is shown. There is a Moon Pluto opposition right on the Asc/Dsc axis. How would you interpret this? It should be significant, right? What to expect in the area of relationships?

In relation to natal chart, this opposition falls exactly on natal 2nd/8th house cusps: pr. Moon conjunct natal 8H cusp, pr. Pluto conjunct both natal 2H cusp and natal Pluto.

I've also looked at what other aspects progressed Moon and Pluto make to my natal chart. Not that many. They both aspect my Sun.

Progressed Moon apart from opposition to natal Pluto (-0.38a) is also on the way to form a trine to natal Sun (at the moment the orb is -1.45a)

Progressed Pluto conjunct natal Pluto (0.29s) and sextile natal Sun right now (0.38a).

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Kannon McAfee
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posted September 04, 2017 03:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
About the Pluto/Moon/Asc axis, I don't interpret that specific to that progressed axis, because the Asc progressed in the usual secondary manner is a symbolic fiction that does not match how the Asc actually moves. I interpret progressed planets in relation to the birth chart's houses. The progressions have their meaning only in relation to the houses/pts of the birth chart (or progressed to progressed planets).

So no, I wouldn't necessarily expect anything in the area of relationships because of that. If relationships are affected very specifically it will be because of the Moon-Pluto dynamic or

That aspect will culminate in about a month and represents around a week or so of deeper feelings or psychological realizations that cannot be ignored. It could be merely a personal matter private within yourself, but could involve circumstances.

Prog Venus & Mars here could be significant. Check their declinations. That conjunction is not yet near culmination.

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Kannon McAfee
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posted September 04, 2017 03:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Progressed Moon apart from opposition to natal Pluto (-0.38a)

That is the one that will happen first in a couple weeks (assuming your the natal Asc figure is pretty close to the correct degree).

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is also on the way to form a trine to natal Sun (at the moment the orb is -1.45a)

About 6-7 weeks away from culmination.

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Progressed Pluto conjunct natal Pluto (0.29s)

Not an active aspect.

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and sextile natal Sun right now (0.38a).

Also not active. Depending on Pluto's speed may never be active. The aspect needs to be within abou 0°04' to be active. That means setting the orbs in progressions to about 12%. That will include some aspects that are out of range, but will be sure to include the minor aspects. Choose 'progressed + natal chart' and click on the link for additional tables (pdf) above the chart image to get the aspectarian. It will show most of the minor and major aspects by planets that are within 0°05'.

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CapriciousCapricorn
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posted September 04, 2017 05:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CapriciousCapricorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you!

Referring back to some of the things in your reply:

If you don't look at pr. Asc, then does that also mean that you don't look at progressed chart as a whole? Following your logic, the houses in it are also fake then and should be ignored

As for timing, I think you look at progressions as a clock. Too early, on time, too late -- for events to take place. Is it nothing like transits where things do not necessarily happen once the aspect is exact and can happen any time within accepted orb for tr. planet? I thought progressions work similar to that, only the orb is very small (-+1 degree).

Venus and Mars are parallel by declination. Venus 1.2S, Mars 2.0S
This conjunction falls in my boring natal 6H )) and the only aspect it makes is sextile to natal North Node in 8H (0.31a for Mars which is closer).

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Kannon McAfee
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posted September 06, 2017 09:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by CapriciousCapricorn:

If you don't look at pr. Asc, then does that also mean that you don't look at progressed chart as a whole? Following your logic, the houses in it are also fake then and should be ignored


Right, I always superimpose the progressed planet positions over the natal chart.

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As for timing, I think you look at progressions as a clock. Too early, on time, too late -- for events to take place. Is it nothing like transits where things do not necessarily happen once the aspect is exact and can happen any time within accepted orb for tr. planet? I thought progressions work similar to that, only the orb is very small (-+1 degree).

Not really. Progressions are phantoms, transits that long passed. And all astrological factors work in aggregate, not as single points. There are some times when a progressed aspect that is exact (orb =0°00') will synchronize with the timing of a life event, but normally it is more than one progressed aspect near culmination that creates those windows of opportunities. That includes minor progressed aspects.

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Venus and Mars are parallel by declination. Venus 1.2S, Mars 2.0S

Not yet active. They'll need to be within 0°04'.


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