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Topic: Are parallels/contraparallels as strongly felt as longitudinal aspects?
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jjj Knowflake Posts: 462 From: Registered: Aug 2009
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posted September 07, 2017 10:38 AM
In your experience, for example if someone has in natal Saturn parallel/contraparallel all personals like sun, moon, Venus, Mars, would that make the person as Saturnian as if he had Saturn conjuncting/opposing/trining etc these planets? Or having Pluto parallel to mars/Venus in natal is it as strong as Pluto square/trine etc these planets?IP: Logged |
Electro DGX Moderator Posts: 1938 From: Plutanus Registered: Jul 2015
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posted September 07, 2017 11:30 AM
Kannon is more knowledgeable about this, but Parallels are akin to Conjunctions and Contraparallels are akin to Oppositions. As long as they are within a 1-1.5 degree orb, then yes they are just as strongly felt. I have Pluto in parallel to my Mars and Asc and can feel its influence. ------------------ Scorpio Ascendant Aquarius Sun in 4th Gemini Moon in 8th IP: Logged |
jjj Knowflake Posts: 462 From: Registered: Aug 2009
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posted September 07, 2017 02:51 PM
Thanks... really? Gosh, that makes the guy I like very saturnian... his sun is parallel Saturn by 1 degree, his moon by 0.1 and his Venus by 0.3 degree. That must feel harsh! IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 4479 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted September 07, 2017 05:21 PM
No expert. But mine seem to fit-based on descriptions.Sun-Mercury-Jupiter triple parallel . And when i read the conjunction descriptions. Wow!! IP: Logged |
hearttreasure Knowflake Posts: 754 From: Registered: Jan 2015
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posted September 07, 2017 05:41 PM
I'm personally not really feeling it but at the same time can resonate with it, like, in a small portion I can relate.IP: Logged |
Kannon McAfee Moderator Posts: 2748 From: Portland, OR - USA Registered: Oct 2011
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posted September 07, 2017 10:23 PM
quote: Originally posted by jjj: In your experience, for example if someone has in natal Saturn parallel/contraparallel all personals like sun, moon, Venus, Mars, would that make the person as Saturnian as if he had Saturn conjuncting/opposing/trining etc these planets? Or having Pluto parallel to mars/Venus in natal is it as strong as Pluto square/trine etc these planets?
Yes, so long as the orb is close enough, within 1° or a bit more for Sun or Moon.
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jjj Knowflake Posts: 462 From: Registered: Aug 2009
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posted September 08, 2017 01:53 AM
very interesting... nowadays I always look at P/CPs in natal and synastry. Adds another perspective, I just wonder if P/CPs to the moon node axis have the same meaning as in longitudes.... is a parallel to the NN declination considered like a conjunction to the NN and a CP to it like a conjunction to the SN and have the same meaning like planets conjunct NN/SN?IP: Logged |
Kannon McAfee Moderator Posts: 2748 From: Portland, OR - USA Registered: Oct 2011
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posted September 08, 2017 05:17 PM
quote: Originally posted by jjj: very interesting... nowadays I always look at P/CPs in natal and synastry. Adds another perspective, I just wonder if P/CPs to the moon node axis have the same meaning as in longitudes.... is a parallel to the NN declination considered like a conjunction to the NN and a CP to it like a conjunction to the SN and have the same meaning like planets conjunct NN/SN?
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jjj Knowflake Posts: 462 From: Registered: Aug 2009
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posted September 09, 2017 03:33 PM
Thanks, Kannon, found your website, very interesting, and nice vortex on the video clip Given the different orbs for different declination ranges I was wondering if someones CAN SUN 21°22'18" N GEM MOON 22°54'12" N GEM VENUS 22°19'27" N CAN SATURN 22°28'20" N SAG NN 22°59'24" S can be considered P/CP my CAP SUN . 23°26'17" S and CAN AC 22°23'38" N? What is the orb range for these declinations?
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Kannon McAfee Moderator Posts: 2748 From: Portland, OR - USA Registered: Oct 2011
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posted September 09, 2017 03:48 PM
quote: Originally posted by jjj: Thanks, Kannon, found your website, very interesting, and nice vortex on the video clip Given the different orbs for different declination ranges I was wondering if someones CAN SUN 21°22'18" N GEM MOON 22°54'12" N GEM VENUS 22°19'27" N CAN SATURN 22°28'20" N
Yes this are all parallel with each other with the Sun-Venus especially close, and Sun-Saturn next. quote:
SAG NN 22°59'24" S
And this tells me the South Node is parallel all the above planets. All well within acceptable orb. quote:
my CAP SUN . 23°26'17" S and CAN AC 22°23'38" N?
Yes, a contra-parallel. quote:
What is the orb range for these declinations?
Sun and Moon get more leeway, maybe up to 1.5° for their aspects to Asc, MC; normally these would need to be within around 1°. Sun & Moon in aspect to each other possibly up to 2° orb, at least at the further range of declination (21°+). ------------------ The Declinations Guy > Expert birth chart rectification > Rising Sign Descriptions ♈ ♉ ♊ ♋ ♌ ♍ ♎ ♏ ♐ ♑ ♒ ♓ IP: Logged |
jjj Knowflake Posts: 462 From: Registered: Aug 2009
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posted September 09, 2017 04:06 PM
Thanks but I was wondering if the guys' planets (SUn-Moon-Venus-Saturn-NN/SN) were P/CP my sun/AC ? If the range was acceptable.IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 85063 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 13, 2017 06:46 PM
Thanks, Kannon.IP: Logged |
Kannon McAfee Moderator Posts: 2748 From: Portland, OR - USA Registered: Oct 2011
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posted September 13, 2017 11:45 PM
quote: Originally posted by jjj: Thanks but I was wondering if the guys' planets (SUn-Moon-Venus-Saturn-NN/SN) were P/CP my sun/AC ? If the range was acceptable.
Sorry about that. I guess I goofed the answer a bit. His ... GEM MOON 22°54'12" N GEM VENUS 22°19'27" N CAN SATURN 22°28'20" N ... Can all be considered parallel your Asc, and contra-parallel your Sun. I would consider his Sun opposite yours, but not necessarily contra-parallel it. His SAG NN 22°59'24 S is parallel your Asc (if that figure is accurate) and it means his S.Node is parallel your Sun.
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