posted September 21, 2017 02:28 AM            

Are you a business man/woman as in the cookbook?Every time I hear something about capricorn money/power/business I roll my eyes.

"Capricorn is all about career" "love comes second" (I wish)

Business woman
Business woman
Business woman

A broken record

There's not problem,I mean we shouldn't care or get bored over this but I feel like this description sucks so much and it's so written on a stone (don't you dare say you're not) not to mention it's like a virus.
I think every since astrology do exist they copy and paste that

Why bother to do some research?

posted September 21, 2017 03:31 AM            

Since then I've gotten a couple of Linda Goodman books back, but I did buy some new astrology books, both to give myself a refresher I felt like I needed and also to learn more about the asteroids which I don't think were ever considered in the old school books I read (offhand, I only recall one new library book for teens back around 2000, myself being a teen at the time, that included anything about asteroids, and I never owned it though I do recall finding it helpful).

Unfortunately, I got 3 books, all with glowing reviews from satisfied customers, and they were all simplistic garbage plagued by ridiculous stereotypes. I'm no longer surprised by the many tired astrological stereotypes I see online as that's what's being printed these days (makes me wonder if the new books are based on online research using websites by casual hobbyists, creating a twisted circle). And the info on asteroids was so vague that I can see why it confuses a lot of people, I certainly didn't find it helpful at all, easily able to find more info online. I'm not getting anymore new books.

It makes me wonder how those old astrology books would look to me now. Will they still make sense to me today? Or will I realize that all these years I, like other astrologers, have simply read into them what was personally relevant so that it made sense as the new books do? I was much more flexible in my readings, and I even impressed a couple of skeptics, but maybe I just picked out what I knew would apply. I know Linda Goodman used stereotypes in her anecdotes, but my impression was a lot of that was for comedic effect which I enjoyed (and can be useful in helping a reader remember certain concepts), and her actual information seemed more relevant (keeping in mind the time she wrote it in which society was different).

I honestly don't know, and just because SOME people are obviously basing their limited knowledge on a person in their life that they then automatically apply to all others with the same placement doesn't mean ALL of us are, and I do plan on getting the old school astrology books again, the ones that expected the reader to have an attention span and the ability to process complex thoughts, and see if it's just a more complicated form of the new books (at least those I've had the misfortune to get--but keeping in mind they got several glowing reviews from satisfied customers which I believe were real rather than bots posting false reviews) or if I come to fully believe in astrology again without the reservations I have now.

My Libra scales are swinging back and forth as I debate this within myself (you know, instead of being a spineless slave of fashion magazines and telling others whatever they want to hear so they hold my hand, a Libra stereotype that I can't relate to at all), and I honestly don't know what the end results will be, which has a lot to do with why I tend to post in spurts here (and less often even when I do) as there are times I just don't feel like I belong here anymore, and other times like now that astrology still seems real to me. I really need to get those old school books again so I can finally make a decision on it (and if I am again convinced of its validity then get a REAL refresher from those books rather than the crap I've found in the newly published books).

posted September 21, 2017 09:58 AM            

And if you want to hear about actual Capricorns, the two Capricorns I know don't seem to fit the stereotype much. In fact, my dad is a Capricorn Sun, and while I don't think he places love first, I also know he doesn't have a job or a career, which is very different from what you'd think if you described him based on his Sun sign. The other Capricorn I know actually has the same birthday as my dad. This other Capricorn struggles financially, yet he does seem to have the potential for an artistic career. You don't quite acknowledge any artistic capabilities in the usual Capricorn Sun.

posted September 21, 2017 02:15 PM            

So they are often drawn to things that will give them that feeling of control. Or the "how to".

Career has ladders. There is a HOW to get to management

Traditional relugious orders. There is a HOW to get to heaven

Body building competitions. There is a HOW to get to that competitive level

Love doesn't have a "how". Its a "anything can happen"

They can do "arrangements" that loop into love. But outright love is tricky for many and makes them feel out of their depth(control). So expect some trepidation in this area of life for them

This is especially with Moon in Cap,Venus in Cap, Moon-Saturn asp, Venus-Saturn asp, Saturn in 5th or Cap in 5th.

posted September 21, 2017 10:41 PM            

My Neptune is exactly conjunct my MC in Cap.
So I have a funny situation. I'm 29 years old, and Saturn is close conjunct natal Saturn now, and pretty soon will begin to directly hit my Sun, Mercury, and Neptune.

Meaningful work is EXTREMELY important to me. In most ways I am extremely practical and often cautious as well. However in recent years it's een very hard to orient myself in the work world. Not only in terms of a clear career direction and goals, but even in being able to hold any kind of consistent job due to major health issues that have recently accumulated. Frankly my life is really chaotic in a lot of ways recently, although there is a lot of forward movement in healing happening, too.

But it hurts when i reflect how i am not able to do that meaningful wprk now. Because I want to SHINE in that realm. I want my work to reflect what I have to give, my visions, my innovation, my relationships with others, how I belong. In terms of money and income, they DEFINITELY provide me with a sense of freedom, security, and stability. As is sort of a Cap stereotype, I envision having a very powerful role in a field of my choosing, and being fully supported by it. But to be honest, the meaningful-ness, the belonging-ness of the work is far more important to me than the income. I am hoping with the right strategizing and mentors, I can work the high income into my overall goals when i am ready to work again - because if the work is not powerful and meaningful for me, it's a waste. I need to be involved in it passionately, personally, and ethically in order to have the motivation to build it and continue it for the long-term.

As I am not currently working an really in a massive life (including career) transition, this is largely just "talk". but I am pretty sure this is how it will all go down.

posted September 22, 2017 03:36 PM            

Just the Sun being in this sign does not mean 'business woman', of course.

Empty Spaces, you're right. There is a lot of copy-n-paste in online astrology, because there was a lot of it in cheesy paperbacks (even more authoritative looking books) before the internet came along.

I once picked up a book on astrology in a book store written decades ago by some old geezer. I flipped to Sagittarius and the only thing that stood out was his asinine statement, "... and Sagittarius is a selfish sign." I don't know how such drivel ever got into print or stayed on a book store shelf.

Please, ignore websites and books written at this level. They're not worth the paper (or pixels) they're written on. Read Liz Greene, Robert Hand, humanistic astrologers who apply basic common sense and an acquaintance with basic psychology to their writing.

posted September 27, 2017 02:06 PM            

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
I relate Capricorn more to capability, organization, ambition, confidence built through experience -- the more mature aspects of the practical bent of the Earth signs. More often than other sign modes, Capricorn folks know how to take charge tacitly towards constructive results, and how to pick their battles.

Just the Sun being in this sign does not mean 'business woman', of course.

Empty Spaces, you're right. There is a lot of copy-n-paste in online astrology, because there was a lot of it in cheesy paperbacks (even more authoritative looking books) before the internet came along.

I once picked up a book on astrology in a book store written decades by some old geezer. I flipped to Sagittarius and the only thing that stood out was his asinine statement, ... and Sagittarius is a selfish sign." I don't know how such drivel ever got into print or stayed on a book store shelf.

Please, ignore websites and books written at this level. They're not worth the paper (or pixels) they're written on. Read Liz Greene, Robert Hand, humanistic astrologers who apply basic common sense and an acquaintance with basic psychology to their writing.

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posted September 27, 2017 04:23 PM            

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
I relate Capricorn more to capability, organization, ambition, confidence built through experience -- the more mature aspects of the practical bent of the Earth signs. More often than other sign modes, Capricorn folks know how to take charge tacitly towards constructive results, and how to pick their battles.

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I agree with this. Having Cappy influence gives one the tools to makes great career strides if that's what they choose to do, but having Cappy influence does not automatically imply career ambition or success. Those Cappy traits can be applied to ANYTHING they put their mind to, whether art, sports, etc.

I think this also summarizes why Cappy Mars is exalted, because this Mars is very practical, very grounded. They get the job done without a whole lot of fuss and fanfare. When in their presence you can just feel their air of competence and can trust them to see a task through. It's not even something they have to TRY to do, they just...do. I would always want a Cappy Mars on my team.

posted September 28, 2017 03:41 AM            

Hopefully I will have a job and carrier after graduation.

I'm not carrier oriented, and it's very dalayed too. I only wanna be able to do a good job. And I wanna be and be seen as competent in my profession. I do like following guidelines. And I think strategically when I'm gonna go from A to B. Also in love I will make strategic plans.

I workout regularly and I'm very disciplined with my training, it makes me feel in control, able and strong and I like that.

Other then that I just feel the neg energy of Saturn. Foot on the gas pedal and the break pedal at the same time.

I really have to work hard not to feel depressed and also not to feel afraid with new beginnings.

posted September 28, 2017 03:53 AM            

I also have a male friend who is born the same year and month as thise women. He also has the same Mars with Neptune. And Sun in Leo but late degrees placements. But he has a Libra Venus and leo Mercury and moon in I think in Pisces.

He is one of the kindest persons and man I know! Not carrier oriented and he is a classmate so he too studies environmental science. He is very reliable. Always punctual and he goes to the gym regularly so he trains very hard.

posted September 28, 2017 12:14 PM            

Moneywise, I can spend very easily usualy for others. I do not have a savings account . It has been several years since I am working from home. Very low income, but a lot of free time and stress free... Like it this way. Yeah I can go back to corporate business, and earn 4 times more but no. I dont even consider it.

But security is important. I always look ahead and think about the worst case scenarios and plan accordingly.

posted October 02, 2017 03:43 PM            

My cousin:

All she think about is love,she dreams with the day she is going to marry,find the love of her life etc that's a bad thing because in her case she has some unreal expectations.

My friend

She is already married.Her husband take care of the bills and she doesn't care about it.She is very sensitive and tradicional and she's not career oriented at all until now.She's 25 years old.

My aunt

Likes her work but her family is the number one priority.

posted October 02, 2017 07:37 PM            

margym0o - seems a good mars indeed.

Kannon - I will try out,thanks the most accurate piece of a book I've read is the astrology for the soul by Jane Spiller.I only read my part (NN in gemini) yet because I didn't have time but I'm very impressed by the content.

DC Poor virgos lol I love them.

SunAscendant I never met one who follows the rule hehe all the ones I know are conservative though and a little bit moody,like me lol

Teasel Yeah unfortunally some books only makes us lose our time.Did you try "astrology for the soul" by Jane Spiller?I'm very fascinated about that book.Suddenly I noticed the negative behaviour that were putting me down.

juliagarfield wow you have strong capricorn energy.I have a capricorn stellium too (uranus/neptune/sun) but I think the difference here is that you have a capricorn moon.It's a lot stronger than my stellium, I think.By the way I love how you see all this,you are very passionate.You have something in Leo?

Aries23Degrees I agree we have problems to surrender I imagine that is even worst for saturn-venus people.

However by looking at me and the people I know we are very much into love.We just keep quiet about it most of time.As you said we don't know how to express what we feel but deep down we just want somebody to melt our resistance.

PixieJane
I loved to hear your opinion about it.

Charlie After I read your comment I started to think and to be honest I never met anyone in life that didn't want security lol

Talking about workaholic people I only know one guy that is like that.He is an aries sun/capricorn rising/sag moon.He has gemini in 6th house cusp,so he may like having different incomes?!

He has two jobs and don't stop one second.He loves to work but sometimes I think that is a sort of escape.He is obssessed with his job and with the gym.He has a lot of money but I think he use his work to fill the hole he has.He admitted he has depression.

Lerena yeah that is true.

FC I know some capricorn people too,we attract each other 😎 lol Two of my greatest friends are cappies while one is a sagittarius.We met on school Is good because we understand each other.Sometimes I feel we are missundertood by others,but together we get our weirdness.

I also have my aunt and sister in law with cap sun.

Sis Lovely way to see life Peace is everything.Same for me.None of them are money/career oriented.