posted September 21, 2017 01:24 PM            

That "everything is going to be okay" vibe they have is really comforting and can disarm tension/ uncertainty(which cause body dis-ease)

Pisces energy more "let it be" spiritual style can be healing too. Pain crystallizes things whilst anger hardens the heart. Pisces more passive style allows one to avoid discomfort of tension(passion) and muscle ache(resistance)

posted September 21, 2017 08:19 PM            

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Originally posted by TaurusVenusGirl:
This is not about one specific person, and any kind of medicine.

I wouldn't think there would be a difference as they would all be intentionally coming from the same place of wanting to help and heal others?

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No, there would be some differences. Insitutional medicine tends to show up more in 12th house factors, Jupiter; natural medicine and homeopathy as 6th house factors. These are not hard rules, but can sometimes be differentiated based on final rulerships.

Homeopaths tend towards the Venus/Neptune principle, but Jupiter/6th can help as well.

Understand that all these house/rulership related matters must be judged only when there is a verified, authenticated Asc first. Edgar Cayce's birth chart (Asc 20CAN23) showed Jupiter nearly exactly parallel 6th cusp (in Sagittarius) with an orb of only 0°07'. He emphasized natural medicine and diet, but also indicated the need for chiropractic or osteopathic adjustments, as well as the occasional use of drugs or surgery with MDs.

Mainstream medicine tends to Saturnine orthodoxy and the ambitious who are not intimated by climbing the ladder within the system (clinics, hospitals).

I know three healers who have Venus quincunx Jupiter. Then there is the Pluto/Scorpio or related factors of deeper effect on others.

Chiron can play a role as well when in close aspect with Asc/Moon/Sun (or possibly 6th house cusp).

posted September 21, 2017 09:00 PM            

This article is Vedic markers...
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posted December 03, 2018 05:17 AM            

I was also told that my mars conjunct saturn in 10H is a placement most surgeons have and this is a placement where people go into the body to "yank" things out!

posted December 03, 2018 10:39 PM            

Some healer indicators:
Heavy scorpio in a chart (well-aspected only)
Evolved scorpios have a tremendous healing power.. surgery and internal medicine are associated with this sign.
Well-aspected pisces, esp. when healing involved mind and emotions
Virgo/Pisces ruling 10th house
Pisces ruling 6th house
6th house stellium of personal planets
Chiron in the 6th house
Sun in the 12th house
Pluto in the 12th house
Pluto in the 12th house conjunct Ascendant ** the closer to AC, the more conscious you are of it when dealing with 12H.

posted December 03, 2018 10:52 PM            

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Originally posted by TaurusVenusGirl:
Well I have planets in the 12H and 6H. I am trained first in complementary medicine and next year will be returning to study to work in modern medicine.

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TaurusVenusGirl, I didn't even read this before I wrote my last post^ too funny! ...Glad to see there are parallels. That's very interesting.

posted December 03, 2018 11:14 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
I find Taurus' easy going energy so attractive-in the healing sense of the word.

That "everything is going to be okay" vibe they have is really comforting and can disarm tension/ uncertainty(which cause body dis-ease)

Pisces energy more "let it be" spiritual style can be healing too. Pain crystallizes things whilst anger hardens the heart. Pisces more passive style allows one to avoid discomfort of tension(passion) and muscle ache(resistance)

These two energies on the Sun/Asc/Moon are healing to me. Add to that Neptune on Asc/Moon and Sun too

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Yes Taurus has a grounding effect that helps reduce anxiety and facilitates stabilization.

posted December 03, 2018 11:25 PM            

Taurus: heals by grounding you by helping you get in touch with your senses.

Gemini: heals through the art of communication by talking things out and exploring our thoughts we are able to release tension and gain valuable insight.

Cancer: heals by making you feel safe, secure, welcome and accepted, by making you feel like home.

Leo: heals by helping you reconnect with your inner child and your lost sense of wonder and through distraction techniques.

Virgo: heals by helping you become aware of natural herbs and supplements that are contributing to an unbalance in your brain that affects your mood. Heals by helping you establish a daily routine that fits you and helps enhance your mental health. Heals by helping you figure what diet is a good fit for you etc.

Libra: heals by keeping you company and been there for you.

Scorpio: heals by helping you release tension in your body through sex

Sagittarius: heals by helping look at the positive side of things and reminds you everything happens for a reason and it will work out like is suppose to in time.

Capricorn: heals by helping you find your purpose in life.

Aquarius: heals through the power of taking risks and change.

posted December 04, 2018 08:47 AM            

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
No, there would be some differences. Insitutional medicine tends to show up more in 12th house factors, Jupiter; natural medicine and homeopathy as 6th house factors. These are not hard rules, but can sometimes be differentiated based on final rulerships.

Homeopaths tend towards the Venus/Neptune principle, but Jupiter/6th can help as well.

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Makes sense, as conventional medicine is all about power but in a covert way (12th house) and not about actual health (6th house).

posted December 04, 2018 08:54 AM            

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Aries: healing through exercise and taking action, movement. When you are feeling numb and bored with flat affect your body needs to get going and moving, aries can help with this.

Taurus: heals by grounding you by helping you get in touch with your senses.

Gemini: heals with distraction techniques and through acts of service.

Cancer: heals by making you feel safe, secure, welcome and accepted, by making you feel like home.

Leo: heals helping you reconnect with your inner child and your sense of wonder

Virgo: heals by helping you become aware of natural herbs and supplements that are contributing to an unbalance in your brain that affects your mood. Heals by helping you establish a daily routine that fits you and helps enhance your mental health. Heals by helping you figure what diet is a good fit for you etc.

Libra: heals by keeping you company and been there for you.

Scorpio: heals by helping you release tension in your body through sex

Sagittarius: heals by helping look at the positive side of things and reminds you everything happens for a reason and it will work out like is suppose to in time.

Capricorn: heals by helping you find your purpose in life.

Aquarius: heals through the power of taking risks and change.

Pisces: heals through the power of faith and helping you adapt and go with the flow, helping you radically accept things you can't change instead of fighting it.

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I think the signs show that there are different ways of healing , but having an imbalance in energies can also be an indicator of trauma/wounds. Like too much piscean energy for example can make someone a chronic daydreamer as a means to cope with their trauma's and be an obstacle to access other energies that are their real personality (draco chart?) or someone that is too much fire (leo) could have become a narcissist to cope with the lack of nurturing they received...

As always, there is a positive and negative side to each planet/sign/house. That's also why we have the north node to balance things out.

posted December 04, 2018 09:24 AM            

Also important to note that there is an inherent healing ability in all of us. Love is the most powerful form of healing and positive thoughts and emotional balance are the best things for overall health, so it is something that needs to be looked at holistically.

The 6th with encourage a good diet and routine and the benefits of maintaining this and general health. Saturn deals with the bones, and Jupiter with excess.

Chiron of course is of the most ultimate important. A talented, intuitive healer will often have a prominent Chiron position and use their ~experience~ to assist.

In terms of a doctor, that is academic and science based, so you may approach a proclivity of this sort from a Uranus & Saturn type of angle.

The truth is, real healing comes from ~within~ it can only be assisted and encouraged but it is our own bodies which make the new cells to cover wounds, or repair trauma. So a healer, in my opinion, is somebody who is loving and kind enough to encourage their protege to be in a more vibrant and positive state of reparation...

posted December 04, 2018 09:39 AM            

However, metaphysical, spiritual, healing of trauma and psychological issues - I believe this to be the domain of Scorpio and/or Pluto. Deep psyche healing on a more profound level.

A friend who is Scorpio sun and moon and rising, who has no clue about astrology, said to me once "I want to heal people." That intrigued me, that he said that, and it went along with my previous speculation, which is that Scorpio, IMO, is capable of being one of the main, deep healers. But, I don't think everyone is ready for the kind of healing Scorpio can do. And I don't think everyone's wounds are deep enough. I think a Scorpio would prefer to (unconsciously?) heal someone who's pain and wounds run very deep, whatever they are.

They love to hear about your pain, your suffering, your woes, your miseries. The more the person is in pain, the more the Scorpio will be attracted. They are attracted to people who are "spiritually and/or psychologically bleeding", they want to help you "close the wound" and heal up. Some strange, energetic things happen when around them. This isn't every single Scorpio. I think they'd have to be a bit more evolved. But then, even the unevolved one who is cruel, would still have this "healing" effect. They wound you where you're weak, so you can one day heal and become stronger, if you survive it. I also think, in part, this is what gives Scorpio their renowned tendency to "sting" others. Either they're looking for the pain, to make it worse, or looking for it, to heal it for you.

I need an exorcism from like, 10 Scorpio stelliums at once

posted December 04, 2018 12:15 PM            

Growing up one of my close friends was Sun/Moon/AC in Leo. One time, she looked me in the eye and said she "doesn't like to see people cry because she thinks it makes them ugly." There's a time and place for everything, but Leos would prefer not to deal with it and find another outlet to get your mind off of said problem. As a Gem-sun/Scop-moon/Can-AC... I wasn't very accepting of that statement and quite frankly found it appalling.

Lalafortunaea: True, not everyone is ready for the evolved scorpios healing.

posted December 04, 2018 01:31 PM            

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Hypatia: Gemini heals with words more than plain distracting. Possibly analyzing/talking about it.. Leos would entertain as a means of distraction.

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posted December 04, 2018 01:39 PM            

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Originally posted by LoveAstrally:
Growing up one of my close friends was Sun/Moon/AC in Leo. One time, she looked me in the eye and said she "doesn't like to see people cry because she thinks it makes them ugly." There's a time and place for everything, but Leos would prefer not to deal with it and find another outlet to get your mind off of said problem. As a Gem-sun/Scop-moon/Can-AC... I wasn't very accepting of that statement and quite frankly found it appalling.

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As for your negative experience with a leo, my director for our counseling center is a leo with venus in cancer and would never say anything like that in a million years, there are a lot of leos out there with big big hearts, I also had a leo director when I worked for an agency that helped adults with cognitive disabilities as a social worker. He was very playful, great boss, big heart, super compassionate. One of my leo clients is an advocate for victims of domestic violence, feels very deeply and has a big heart.

posted December 04, 2018 01:53 PM            

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Originally posted by Lalafortunaea:
I think that every sign, in its own way, can heal. And it depends on what type of healing you mean.

However, metaphysical, spiritual, healing of trauma and psychological issues - I believe this to be the domain of Scorpio and/or Pluto. Deep psyche healing on a more profound level.

A friend who is Scorpio sun and moon and rising, who has no clue about astrology, said to me once "I want to heal people." That intrigued me, that he said that, and it went along with my previous speculation, which is that Scorpio, IMO, is capable of being one of the main, deep healers. But, I don't think everyone is ready for the kind of healing Scorpio can do. And I don't think everyone's wounds are deep enough. I think a Scorpio would prefer to (unconsciously?) heal someone who's pain and wounds run very deep, whatever they are.

They love to hear about your pain, your suffering, your woes, your miseries. The more the person is in pain, the more the Scorpio will be attracted. They are attracted to people who are "spiritually and/or psychologically bleeding", they want to help you "close the wound" and heal up. Some strange, energetic things happen when around them. This isn't every single Scorpio. I think they'd have to be a bit more evolved. But then, even the unevolved one who is cruel, would still have this "healing" effect. They wound you where you're weak, so you can one day heal and become stronger, if you survive it. I also think, in part, this is what gives Scorpio their renowned tendency to "sting" others. Either they're looking for the pain, to make it worse, or looking for it, to heal it for you.

I need an exorcism from like, 10 Scorpio stelliums at once

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Huh where does scorpio fall in your chart?
What house?

We had an intern who was a scorpio with a HUGE scorpio stellium, struggled with anxiety and dropped out of her grad school program and quit internship at our center and left early, the work was affecting her so much that she had a nervous break down, had to be hospitalized, she now works with skin care. Mind you she had a small caseload, only came in twice a week.

posted December 04, 2018 03:07 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
I find Taurus' easy going energy so attractive-in the healing sense of the word.

That "everything is going to be okay" vibe they have is really comforting and can disarm tension/ uncertainty(which cause body dis-ease)

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posted December 04, 2018 04:04 PM            

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Originally posted by LoveAstrally:

It takes a certain type to withstand (& continually want) the depths a scorpio will take your mind/heart to. Not everyone can stand me, and I just have Pluto-Moon-Lilith conjunct in Scorpio. The scorpios healing power comes from the fact that they aren't afraid of anyones shadow side. In fact I think these sides just simply intrigue or draw us in. When allowed the opportunity, we like to help others merge with their shadow self or at least maybe understand it a little more... effectively raising their vibration further enabling them to heal themselves.

--Only from evolved scorpios though, ones who understand how to use their strengths to benefit all.

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Yes, to this! 100x over.

It also makes me think of the less evolved ones that have no idea what they're doing, but are doing it regardless. If they learn more about themselves, and, consequentially, learn about themselves via others.

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Lalafortunaea: True, not everyone is ready for the evolved scorpios healing.

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Yeah, so many people even run from that. Sometimes even they aren't even ready for their own.

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We had an intern who was a scorpio with a HUGE scorpio stellium, struggled with anxiety and dropped out of her grad school program and quit internship at our center and left early, the work was affecting her so much that she had a nervous break down, had to be hospitalized, she now works with skin care. Mind you she had a small caseload, only came in twice a week.

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Hum? I might be misunderstanding you, but I don't think if someone is suffering, they do not heal others, or will not.

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I feel plutonic relationships bring your issues to the surface but is up to you to put in the work to heal yourself and also others support and the deep bonds you have in your life play an important role in this.

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posted December 04, 2018 09:35 PM            

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Originally posted by Lalafortunaea:
Hum? I might be misunderstanding you, but I don't think if someone is suffering, they do not heal others, or will not.

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I suffer and help others heal, that is not what I am talking about, everyone suffers, is part of life. Her situation wasn't that she was suffering, you can suffer but still cope, work through your stuff and do that parallel to others you are helping and model that for others; heal and be able to help others heal while you are healing yourself even. That was not her case, she quit for a reason, she did not feel grounded at all and felt she was losing it.

You cannot help heal others if their suffering distresses you so much you feel you are losing it and can't function and want to be hospitalized, you have to be grounded at least to a certain extent so others can internalize that and heal, if you are not grounded you cannot help others heal. Helping others brought up so many issues for her that she needed to work through that she ended up having a nervous break down and quitting grad school and she had invested a bunch of money on grad school, is not for everyone. She felt she couldn't do it, it was too intense for her this line of work, she said it stirred up to much in her, it was affecting her own mental health to the point she felt she needed to be hospitalized.