posted September 26, 2017 09:13 PM            

I have Mars and Pluto Conjunct by a 7 degree orb in Scorpio, almost in the 8th house - but still 7th. I would guess I notice this in ALL my relationships that might have a one-on-one component - lovers, partners, friends, family, parents (> ), co-workers, you name it! My Venus, by the way in in Aquarius (0 degrees) in the 11thhouse and conjunct my moon in Capricorn. I have Aries Rising, conjunct Jupiter. I've got a Cap/Sag stellium that includes my Sun, Mercury, Saturn, Neptune, and Uranus.

Overall relationships have been extremely disappointing, hurtful, and painful in my life. I dream of and crave deep, incredily, profound intimacy with trustworthy, passionate, loving souls - whether we're family, friends, partners, or working together! But this intimacy seems beyond my grasp. I even sa recently, one person interpretation of Pluto being in the 7th house is "rejection of intimacy". Well, I don't believe in an astrology that offers absolutes, so I don't think Pluto's message is a static one - but nonetheless, that idea scares me a bit.

The importance of developing said healthy relaitonships is a priority in my life right now. Without getting too detailed, I am, for the first time, entering an intensive therapy program, larely to address this issue of healthy relationship. Yes, i've experienced trauma. i won't go into those stories. But believe me - this stuff is an important issue to me these days in my life. While human relationships can often seem scary and so highly risky, being alone and lonely all the time really sucks - if you, like me, actually do like people and want to bond and make things and do things with some of them.

I'm interested on YOUR take on how a person with Pluto/Mars conjunct in Scorpio in the 7th - OR some aspects that are similar to this - find healthy relationships.

Do you have anecdotes on learning to manating the profundity of such aspects? Do you knwo someone you're close with who has? do you have observations about it? Do you want to share additional questions or comments or complaints about this experience? ha. Please, go ahead!

posted September 27, 2017 12:20 AM            

Usually disappointment comes from high EXPECTATIONS. People are not you, so don't expect people can understand you or know what you want from them that easily until you tell them what you want from them.

My brother-in-law has Mars in Scorpio, he often gives my sister cold shoulder when he gets upset, ignoring her, or giving her a cold silent treatment. I don't think it is healthy in a relationship especially when the other wants you to response. He tend to give punishment as he expects my sister to be in his control. He hates losing control and easily getting upset, I think he has anger issues but still tries to hide it.

He will turn to his work a lot, focusing on career like a horse, rather than giving her a good amount of attention that she needs, he uses money/material or GIFTs to keep my Taurus sun sister happy and unfortunately it works LOL, while you can see she wants an affectionate/sensitive relationship so she lives in her imagination, creating those delusional happiness (mercury square neptuuuunnnneeee). The saddest part is, she will watch every romantic drama series or movie alone each night.

What I see in him is he looks like also having disappointment in something but hold it inside, like, he has some grudges or unfinished business within himself that he needs to work on with himself.

He often criticising my sister, I don't know what is his purpose of doing it wether to lower her confidence to take full control or what, I don't know. Very unfortunate, my sister has mercury square neptune, delusional in her relationship, I don't know how she sees him as what I see in reality. I think he is really good knowing what my sisters wants or majority women wants (not the needs, as people can easily confuse by this two different things).

posted September 27, 2017 05:09 AM            

My Venus conj his DSC (so, I really though he would be able to give me this deep intimacy but sadly he wasn't... he was too scared of it.

He gives me the cold shoulder/ignores me, which I don't think it's healthy either, just to guilt trip/mind games. He had to have control of everything, not comfortable with emotions. He also made me feel like the only time he would give me time is if I "deserved it" by his eyes. And has recent me a lot when he is doing something for/with me (that I didn't ask for) and act like he is trapped into doing it. He was always belittling me, being condescending, and making me feel like crap about myself... I guess to make him feel better about himself/to have a sense of control?. I have a Sun conj Neptune and I was even able to pull myself out of this relationship knowing it was bad...

I think it greatly matters where other things are in your chart... and if you are male/female.... He has a stellium in Taurus (which I have a Taurus Moon), but I didn't find out later all that stellium and plus some was in he 12th house... with some of it squ Neptune. (I was always catching him in lies and being a hypocrite... which this last time I was just done).

posted September 27, 2017 10:07 AM            

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posted September 28, 2017 12:16 PM            

Pluto/Uranus in 7th on those who bring about change and revolutionize those around them.

In relationship Mars/Pluto may excite the partners. From a simpler level, both planets heat up the surroundings and shake things up.

Things may get painful/unfulfilling when the people around them are unresponsive to the energy they bring. Kinda like telling a joke to a dead audience. It feels like u are being rejected.

The killer for these folks is indifference. Be anything but that-as it just demoralizes them.

Pluto in 7th may hurt deeply when relationships formed are not involving, emotionally open and honest. It can make them feel lonely even when they have someone.

Mars in 7th may hurt deeply when the relationships formed are not motivating, enthusiastic or fun. It can make them feel restricted and ignored. And this causes them to seek attention elsewhere.

How do i deal with these placements? Know thyself. Don't expect some person out there to do it for you.

posted September 29, 2017 02:29 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Mars/Jupiter in 7th I would imagine on people who motivate others. Or people who energize those around them.

Pluto/Uranus in 7th on those who bring about change and revolutionize those around them.

In relationship Mars/Pluto may excite the partners. From a simpler level, both planets heat up the surroundings and shake things up.

Things may get painful/unfulfilling when the people around them are unresponsive to the energy they bring. Kinda like telling a joke to a dead audience. It feels like u are being rejected.

The killer for these folks is indifference. Be anything but that-as it just demoralizes them.

Pluto in 7th may hurt deeply when relationships formed are not involving, emotionally open and honest. It can make them feel lonely even when they have someone.

Mars in 7th may hurt deeply when the relationships formed are not motivating, enthusiastic or fun. It can make them feel restricted and ignored. And this causes them to seek attention elsewhere.

How do i deal with these placements? Know thyself. Don't expect some person out there to do it for you.

If you make up your mind to be the love that you want and love another, that empowers you. But if u are "waiting" for someone else to be that way for you. You will be frustrated.

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I have Mars in my 7th, conj my DSC within 20 mins and that's not how I feel... (your description). I am the Pluto in the 7th description. And the the ex guy I was talking about... that's not how he felt with his Pluto in his 7th, conj his DSC... he's exactly opposite of this (and has been this way in all his relationships).

Everybody is going to have different experiences with this depending on how aware/evolved they are with this energy.

For my personal experience: I have an anxiety attachment style with my Mars in the 7th, conj DSC

posted September 29, 2017 02:39 PM            

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Originally posted by racole12:
I have Mars in my 7th, conj my DSC within 20 mins and that's not how I feel... (your description). I am the Pluto in the 7th description. And the the ex guy I was talking about... that's not how he felt with his Pluto in his 7th, conj his DSC... he's exactly opposite of this (and has been this way in all his relationships).

Everybody is going to have different experiences with this depending on how aware/evolved they are with this energy.

For my personal experience: I have an anxiety attachment style with my Mars in the 7th, conj DSC

For my ex: he has an avoidant attachment style with his Pluto in the 7th, conj his DSC.

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Racole, i appreciate your perspective. Some of the other responses here don't feel very holistic or addressing my actual interest in Healthy Relationships (or even my chart specifics I mentioned, though people are addressing me). It is a process of evolution. Can you say some more about your 'anxiety attachment style"?

I have a difficult time with a familiar (to me - like, recurring) feeling of possessiveness. I connect some of it with childhood trauma experiences I have had (whch I'm working through ongoing with therapy)... And I wonder what it might look like as I heal and grow, and if I would change is possessiveness. The possessive desire has often easily taken hold of me in any close relationship, romantic or not. I am highly aware of this, maybe now more than ever before. I am very wary of it. It's a tricky thing. I don't "follow" that desire, but it seems extremely persistent. I'm currently coming out of a long period of isolation and friendlessness, just barely beginning to build relatinships again, much more gradually and patiently than I think i have previously.

PS my Venus is at 0 degrees Aqua in the 11th house, as I said.