posted October 01, 2017 03:25 PM
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Originally posted by FatedCinderella:
I'm very curious about the out of bound planets and its meanings.I always been but I find very little information.I'm more interested on the MARS OUT OF BOUND though cuz I just find out Donald Trump has that.
Not so. His natal Mars is at only 13° North, nowhere near out of bounds, which starts at 23°28'. The planet furthest OOB in his chart is Mercury [25N09]. Pluto [23N51] is the only other.
There is not much to specify with the OOB factor itself, because it is shared (like planet in sign) with those born in the same period of weeks. In this case, Mercury was OOB June 2 - 21 of 1946, so a couple weeks. A planet can only move past the ecliptic (the so-called boundary) when it is in the signs of Gemini or Cancer, Sagittarius or Capricorn. It is only a movement further north or south of the ecliptic than planets usually go that defines this.
In order to arrive at some kind of real interpretation for that planet you have to take into account the aspects being formed in longitude because planets continue to make and change aspects in longitude even as they remain OOB (and nearly still) in declination. While Mercury was OOB those two weeks in June 1946, it moved from 15° Gemini to 22° Cancer.
People who share this same condition do not necessarily behave the same way. So don't think of it in those terms. The planet's condition is an urge towards development with a particular set of dynamics that may work for or against them with flow or challenges.
So in Trump's natal chart ...
- Mercury [25N09] OOB is at 8° Cancer square to Neptune 5° Libra. Mercury in far North declination is urged to involvement with the outer, external world in curiosities, inquiry, mental receptivity and communication; square Neptune the emphasis is not on knowing, but searching for clarity, continuing to inquire, to lift inquiry towards pure consciousness, to the imagination of what could be. Poorly used, it creates confusion and deception if the ego cannot admit 'not knowing' and instead engages in a shroud of words or concepts to hide it. Prioritized listening and real effort is needed to be clear in communications with others. The words will tend to be fancy or poetic, or just vague or contradictory -- until they first learn to focus their attention on learning and better listening.
This is a listening aspect in which focus is a difficulty in any linear effort. Neptune neutralizes the attentiveness and memory for relevant details in favor of a big fuzzy picture. The also neutralizes the strongest communication urges of Mercury, which is highly subjective and non-rational in Cancer anyway. There is a tendency to collect -- information, feelings as ideas, and use them in a highly subjective way, even misconstrue them later.
This is one of the most subjective planet/sign/aspect combinations that can be found and results in the person changing perspectives and moods. The best thing a person can do under this influence is first to inquire and continue inquiring until real learning pieces together the bigger, more fluid picture sought by Neptune.
- Pluto's condition is parallel Sun [23N15] and Uranus [22N56], which puts the principles of core vitality/strength/ego (sun) and communication with the masses (uranus) into direct relationship with the urge to power or transformation. This is an aspect complex that leans the person towards extremes to satisfy the ego's urge for power or the desire to accomplish notable things in technological fields that inevitably go outside accepted boundaries of ethics or other norms.
The Clintons both have Uranus-Pluto parallels in key places of their birth charts. Martin Winterkorn, CEO of Volkswagen during the September 2015 software emissions cheating scandal was born with Mercury OOB 23-24° North and parallel Uranus [23N13] and Pluto OOB [23N58]. He tried to cover it up, lying that only a few people had engaged in creating the deceptive software, when such efforts could only have been initiated from a top-down intention. He resigned after VW's stock price fell by 1/3 in the following days. That month, his prog Uranus [23N27] and prog Pluto [23N28] were in near exact culminated parallel, as you can see.
The problem with Uranus or fire planets in strong aspect with Pluto OOB is that they tend to bring explosions of truth and revelations, much like we're seeing now in the investigations into the Trump group and Russian business and political ties. So the irony is that the person seeks to transform the outer world, to remake it in their own image, but ends up being transformed by that world and its response to their efforts.
No one can handle such Uranus-Pluto combinations well without impeccable ethics.
As to OOB conditions of planets otherwise ... OOB itself has little interpretive value beyond the urge to go further, to break pattern, to press further, depending on the planet involved and depending on what aspects are made with it in declination and longitude. Often the planet's condition of OOB lasts for weeks or months (if Mars or a more outer planet).
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