posted November 01, 2017 06:34 PM            

My Chiron, according to what someone said about it, and its placement, means that people will misinterpret or misunderstand many things I say.

One example could be that several other people could be in the process of painting a picture. I could say "Where are the paint brushes?!"
And then someone will point and say "Oh, you've never used paint brushes before?" and then say the paintbrushes are just right on a table next to me. But SOMEHOW it'll blow up into a story about me not knowing something. Then another person will say along the lines "Ah, poor lass, never seen a paint brush. I guess she comes from a country without paint brushes "
And it'll just keep blowing up as people keep making assumptions. Before I know it everyone's convinced they know the truth and I have no say!

posted November 01, 2017 09:02 PM            

Chiron in gemini (12th house).

posted November 08, 2017 02:21 PM            

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Originally posted by TensionEmpire:
I have read that retro planets can be influential, but more on a subconcious level.
They start to see the world as you do, like they get your mind set.
Something like this

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posted November 08, 2017 10:25 PM            

My bf does have Neptune opposite water Mars and water Mercury. I do feel there's something with Neptune influencing it. I do know he tries to influencing other people, but in his term he doesn't do anything although sometimes he realizes people do what he tells or follows him if I ask him to try to recall memory of why he gets the blame from the first place.

There are some people who are manipulative in default and maybe having dysfunctional way of thinking so they don't see their own manipulation or they can't accept that they are called manipulative.

There are some people who are sweet talker in default and do not realize their words can hit other people ears. Can be a people pleaser too.

There are some people who are sociopath that try to lead other people into something to get what they want that they do not realize they can mess other people up.

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posted November 09, 2017 06:17 AM            

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Originally posted by hearttreasure:

My bf does have Neptune opposite water Mars and water Mercury. I do feel there's something with Neptune influencing it. I do know he tries to influencing other people, but in his term he doesn't do anything although sometimes he realizes people do what he tells or follows him if I ask him to try to recall memory of why he gets the blame from the first place.

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posted November 09, 2017 06:23 AM            

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Originally posted by Lalafortunaea:
It could be your Chiron placement. Where is it for you, and at what degree? Conjuncting anything?My Chiron, according to what someone said about it, and its placement, means that people will misinterpret or misunderstand many things I say.

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posted November 09, 2017 06:31 AM            

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Originally posted by TensionEmpire:
I have read that retro planets can be influential, but more on a subconcious level.
They start to see the world as you do, like they get your mind set.
Something like this

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posted November 09, 2017 06:41 AM            

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
I thought that was normal. People assume that what they feel is as obvious to others as to one's self and thus assumed to be doing it on purpose, and thus the other person is responsible for one's own actions. Does my appearance turn you on? Then "obviously" I knew it would and you are not to blame for your actions. Did I "make" you feel insecure by not praising you enough? Then "obviously" I intended to do so and you cannot be blamed for your actions.

One of my "favorite" lines by abusers and predators is something along the lines of, "Why do you make me do this?" This is especially amusing when they go on about how strong they are, even as they claim those who are weaker than them "make" them do things. That makes them stronger than you, oh weak one.

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posted November 10, 2017 01:47 PM            

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Originally posted by SleepyDiary:
Has your boyfriend also had people been influenced by his behavior to, do they start behaving like him in certain ways?

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Not necessarily other people start behaving like him, but I do know how easily people are under his influence. Most of the time, he starts behaving like those people (I think he also has some sort of identity lost, so he chops other people personality, idk).

I was one in the (of many) unfortunate situation dealing with him in the past that I lost my great job because of him, but for years he said he didn't do anything, while I knew everything from everyone. This year he finally shows me that he wants to fix what he did to me but still he is just being himself, doesn't want to take fully responsibility because he has different imaginative pictures in his head.

When it is bad, Neptune to his Mars does really imagining the worst and starts being deceptive/tricky or sneaky (as a result of being passive-aggressive). When it is good, he is high and starts deluding himself. I have seen those two situation, but he can not see the differences.

Do you have the square? What sign is your Mars/Neptune?

posted November 10, 2017 02:42 PM            

"Someone that encourages others to have more friends/this person may encourage others to be the universal friend to others/encourage others to go out."
He mentions encouraging others, which, in its own way is similar to influencing. Not necessarily bad. Perhaps this has something to do with it. And he goes on to say that in certain signs, Chiron will want to encourage others to do and/or act in certain ways.
"Chiron in Libra could encourage others to to be amiable, sociable, charming etc"
And he says "Chiron is Scorpio could be someone who preaches to others to show emotional intensity."

If anything, Chiron there, the 11th house, the collective, groups, people, friends and such, would likely want to impact others in some way.

posted November 10, 2017 05:37 PM            

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Originally posted by SleepyDiary:
Hey guys sorry for a late reply been busy, and thanks

What i mean is that i can be blamed for influencing someone`s behavior without having done anything really. Like i am just being myself and give out my thoughts and opinions on whatever issue that is brought to my attention and then someone might start mimicking my behavior and then i get blamed for what they decide to do. I have heard this has been said about me so many times "You always get like this when she is around, why do you listen to her, You always start talking like that after you been talking with her, etc " People ALWAYS think i stand behind a person`s behavior and opinions. I`ve had parents growing up accusing me of influencing their children, boyfriends thinking i make their women more bitchier, friends of my friends feeling like i have a strong hold on their friend, bosses thinking i influence some other co-worker`s behavior etc. I think i read once that Neptunians can be blamed for what other people do but i am not sure since it is a long time ago i read it.

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Been there, too, partly in what I mentioned above. For some reason, you avoided my post.

posted November 11, 2017 05:25 PM            

Then, one day, a chocolate factory is robbed of all its chocolate. The people point their fingers at the one who loves chocolate a lot. Even though the chocolate lover didn't steal from the chocolate factory, people blame the choco-lover cause it's easiest.

So, this could be similar to your situation. Maybe, as was said about chiron (and possibly other aspects), you have a tendency to encourage, without malefic intent of course. And people subconsciously pick up on this trait, and decide to make you into the scapegoat, so to speak. Therefore, you end up being blamed for others actions even though you had nothing to do with what they did.