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Lalafortunaea
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posted November 04, 2017 08:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lalafortunaea     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There's a running theme I've noticed with these two signs together in someone. I am wondering if there is anything to it?

Allow me to elaborate.

There's one girl I knew way back. She was sweet, kind, beautiful - beloved by all. Very sensitive and loving. Eventually, she started to change. Before, when she got drunk, she was just lovely and excessively sweet and flirty. But later, I noted when she got drunk she would become someone else entirely, talk about everything she hated, everyone she secretly hated, how her life sucks. Granted, it probably did. Everyone who knew her, not just me, was shocked by her new erratic personality.

When sober, she started spitting out nasty words to people she was usually only ever kind to. Instead of her usual dulcet tone, she'd occasionally uncontrollably speak in an angry, violent manner. And then, as if a switch came on, revert back to being kind and sweet.

She was a Pisces with Libra rising.

Second case is a man who is very socially charming, though somewhat reserved. Everything he says is always quite thoughtful and elegant and agreeable. He rarely negates anything anyone says. There were times when we'd be out and he'd just flip. He'd look at people with burning hatred, snap at everyone, criticism everyone, insult his wife who he was being loving with just a few minutes ago. And then suddenly just switch back to being polite and kind, and give an excuse like "I'm tired."
And things like that have happened quite a few times.
He's Libra with Pisces rising.

Third case; this person is/was the sweetest, most docile person I know. Never swore, rarely uttered a mean word - even barely stood up for himself or anyone else. That was just too aggressive for him. Anyone and everyone could talk to him about anything because they knew he'd listen and be kind and serene. Fast forward a couple of years later, and he seemed to get a bit more irritable. His aura changed. And then, again, another year passed, and he became downright vindictive at times!

He'd find out what people didn't like, and do it to them (say words others hated/make crude sex jokes/be racist in front of people from particular countries). He became very profane, and strangely, once someone called him out or made him aware of his behavior, he'd change, as if a switch had gone on, and become his usual, sweet, kind, thoughtful self.

He was a Libra with Pisces moon.

These are all just musings, and I wonder if there's something to be said about these two signs together that could cause someone to express their negative feelings in such a way that seems like a dramatic split. Don't get me wrong, I understand that we all get angry, but this just has a different flavor to me, if you see what I mean.

What do you think? And do you know of any similar cases?

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posted November 04, 2017 12:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for polkadotstars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My friend is a Pisces sun with 12th house libra moon and libra ascendant. She’s really down to earth and grounded. I don’t see her a Jekyl/Hide at all.

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posted November 04, 2017 02:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lalafortunaea     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by polkadotstars:
My friend is a Pisces sun with 12th house libra moon and libra ascendant. She’s really down to earth and grounded. I don’t see her a Jekyl/Hide at all.

Hums what age group is this friend of yours if I may know?

And I'm not convinced of my own hypothesis, but I simply noted that pattern, and want to discuss.

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posted November 04, 2017 04:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for polkadotstars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
She was born in 1980.

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posted November 04, 2017 09:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Electro DGX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know that Pisces can get easily hurt and play the victim game, "Why are you being ****** to me?" But tbh this sounds like typical unevolved Libra behavior. I knew a 12th house Libra Moon and ASC who would give random people compliments and then turn around and talk **** about them.

If it was me I would tell them to go **** themselves.

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posted November 05, 2017 04:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SoulOfABird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lalafortunaea:
There's a running theme I've noticed with these two signs together in someone. I am wondering if there is anything to it?

Allow me to elaborate.

There's one girl I knew way back. She was sweet, kind, beautiful - beloved by all. Very sensitive and loving. Eventually, she started to change. Before, when she got drunk, she was just lovely and excessively sweet and flirty. But later, I noted when she got drunk she would become someone else entirely, talk about everything she hated, everyone she secretly hated, how her life sucks. Granted, it probably did. Everyone who knew her, not just me, was shocked by her new erratic personality.

When sober, she started spitting out nasty words to people she was usually only ever kind to. Instead of her usual dulcet tone, she'd occasionally uncontrollably speak in an angry, violent manner. And then, as if a switch came on, revert back to being kind and sweet.

She was a Pisces with Libra rising.

Second case is a man who is very socially charming, though somewhat reserved. Everything he says is always quite thoughtful and elegant and agreeable. He rarely negates anything anyone says. There were times when we'd be out and he'd just flip. He'd look at people with burning hatred, snap at everyone, criticism everyone, insult his wife who he was being loving with just a few minutes ago. And then suddenly just switch back to being polite and kind, and give an excuse like "I'm tired."
And things like that have happened quite a few times.
He's Libra with Pisces rising.

Third case; this person is/was the sweetest, most docile person I know. Never swore, rarely uttered a mean word - even barely stood up for himself or anyone else. That was just too aggressive for him. Anyone and everyone could talk to him about anything because they knew he'd listen and be kind and serene. Fast forward a couple of years later, and he seemed to get a bit more irritable. His aura changed. And then, again, another year passed, and he became downright vindictive at times!

He'd find out what people didn't like, and do it to them (say words others hated/make crude sex jokes/be racist in front of people from particular countries). He became very profane, and strangely, once someone called him out or made him aware of his behavior, he'd change, as if a switch had gone on, and become his usual, sweet, kind, thoughtful self.

He was a Libra with Pisces moon.

These are all just musings, and I wonder if there's something to be said about these two signs together that could cause someone to express their negative feelings in such a way that seems like a dramatic split. Don't get me wrong, I understand that we all get angry, but this just has a different flavor to me, if you see what I mean.

What do you think? And do you know of any similar cases?


That's a very interesting observation. I think I may know why. I'll be only speaking on behalf of myself though. As Im a Pisces Sun, Libra Mars. I don't know if it still counts. But for me I tend to feel like I cant get angry or annoyed. Not like Im not allowed but more so that I don't want to say something I'll regret or I dont want to be mean. At times I feel irritable even if someone is being nice to me and I dony know why I feel annoyed. So it makes me feel like a bad person for feeling annoyed or irratable at an innocent person. I dont want to act mean or harshly on someone who hasnt even done anything to me but Im still human and I guess for some reasons I still get frustrated or annoyed. I try not to be especially when a person doesnt deserve it. I get moody and then it frustrates me that I get moody with people close to me for no reason. I dislike it so much. I dont like being moody with others. But in turn because I get moody or irritated by something and I try to avoid taking it out on anyone, I end up with built frustration which I just cry out of frustration. All the negative emotions I tend to try to avoid displaying such as anger, annoyance, or frustration. Although I dont like to be a fake either so I wont act kindly to anyone who isnt nice to me. After a while with certain people I just forget trying to be kind to. But I do still like to keep the peace. I dont like to deal with arguments so I wont necessarily confront anyone but once they notice Im more cold and indifferent towards them they get so surprised. Lol I don't understand why. Im a human being and because people see me as sweet and someone who doesnt talk about anyone, and is kind, people assume I dont get mad. Or that there are some people I dont like. It's surprising to them. But Im not perfect. I do understand what you're saying though. It seems like these people really just completely turn complete opposites. Maybe since these people have Libra as one of the 3 most personal planets they feel it more than me, because Im just a Libra mars. Libras in general tend to avoid conflict. Maybe it's built up frustration and they get tired of trying to keep the peace. Although I do not like to talk behind people's backs. I dont like to be fake and although there hasnt been anyone in my life so far that I disliked very much, I still won't act all sweet to them if they upset me. I'll just act indifferent. & I guess the contrast tends to surprise people even if Im not being that mean. Maybe some of that applies to them?

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posted November 06, 2017 11:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lalafortunaea     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@SoulOfABird thank you for sharing that.
What you say could very well be related somehow!

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posted November 12, 2017 01:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for colorful butterfly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thinking on this I think it is because of the progressed planets, Libra goes into Scorpio and Pisces goes into Aries. Add Alcohol on top of that and I am sure that is one Aggressive cut throat position.

I have a Libra moon and Pisces as my Southern node. In my younger years I was more quiter, ignored things that I felt would just disappear with time not out of ignorance just didn't understand why the other person did or said the things they were doing. As I grew older I found that it doesn't really happen this way with certain people and you really have to say the obvious of " do you really think that your actions or words are ok to say especially if that person was sensitive to those things themselves. Like look in the mirror please, don't say this or do this if you don't want those things done to you type of thing.

Libra wants to be harmonious and Scorpio wants to strike back.

Pisces wants to get lost and Aries wants to fight.

Not necessarily duality just age causes one to grow and become more self confident or tired of the BS.

Other aspects I am for sure play into this but this is my thoughts onto what is probably taking place.

My sun is progressed to Leo, as a Cancer sun I could care less for the spotlight but in the right moments I chose to take the stage and let my inner light shine out. The right people can bring those things out in me, Aries I noticed have a way of ding these things like " Get it girl or come on sing with me". Playful manner makes you laugh and wanna come out your shell and be that Leo on stage.


I think everyone has dual natures and it is more about how one is asserting themselves , with alcohol involved depending if the person drinks often and for a long time sounds more of the issues of just being an alcoholic and it being disruptive. Psychology wise alcohol stunts the emotional brain from maturing and thus, you have an 18 mindset of dealing with things vs the persons actual age. Lessons we learn as a natural part of aging is how to deal with difficult people, crisis situations and general things we don't like in a constructive manner doing something about the situation or learning to perceive things in a different perspective while asserting our own emotional states of boundaries and tolerance to avoid being run over or used.

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posted November 13, 2017 09:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Libra is a Jackyll & Hyde personality. This sign has loads of charm, knows how to work a room, and can get out of sticky situations gracefully...but if you pay attention you'll notice they have smart mouths, are sociopathic, and ping highly on the a-hole meter.

Pisces is Queen of the sneak attack.

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posted November 13, 2017 12:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Melinn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have been into astrology for almost 10 years but I'm still learning so much! Astrology is very layered and complex.

One thing I have learned though is: You can never put a sign in a box. It's more about the planets, the aspects they are making, the houses etc. For ex, a person with sun in pisces vs a person with sun in aspect to neptune vs a person with sun in 12th house may at first sight look like its the same knd of energies, but its not. And this is a subject I'm new to and try to learn as much as I can.

However, although I have not met so many Libras, I know of a Libra sun man. He is like discribed at first sight very polite, kind, charming etc. But when I got to know him, he was mean, ugly and very hurtful. Now, I can't say Libras are like that, But sun libras can be like that, because sun is our identity, and that part of us are always under construction, also its up to the person to grow up and use the positive enrgies libra comes with, or to use the negative energies.

For ex, scorpio suns (or plutos) can be revengeful. But if its a person that has harnessed the negative traits/energies scorpio comes with, that person can be the exact opposite of revengeful etc. Same goes with libras. They do wanna act out the good traits. But also the bad traits which are in very high contrast to the good ones will wanna come out and play too, I guess. Its how I see it anyway.

Why it looks extra ugly on libras is that its such a huge contrast. What you see is not what you get sometimes. I'm Aries Venus-Jupiter and n.node, so to mee even the nice and kind libras feals a bit fake sometimes. I don't say they are, thats just how I have felt with the very few I have met!

But Libra venus is an entyrely diffrent subject, then sun libras for ex. So many layer, I love astrology but it makes my head spinn!

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posted November 13, 2017 12:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Melinn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a crush that I have just known for 6 months. He has pisces Moon, Libra Venus. He is as you described very agreeable, kind says nevere ever hurtful things about other people, does not swear, passive etc.

So imagine how surprized I was when we were talking about something and I'm very sure I'm gonna be able to make him agree with me, but he turns out to hold his ground and will not sway about his belief about the subject. I noticed how defensive he gets about some things he has an other opinion about. Since I have pluto oppo my sun and mercury I sure know when I see a "fixed" person and I started to push his buttons to see how he reacts.

And I can tell you if you push enough and know how to and where to push, the libra wall will come down quicker then a sand wall . Turns out he has Mercury in Leo and square Pluto! He will seem agreeable (Libra Venus, Pisces moon) But if you try to push harder, you will see their "real" true selves shine through. It is chocking, just because Libra is super sweet. And Mercury-Pluto is not. Contrasts.

So its a bit "bitter sweet".

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posted November 13, 2017 12:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Melinn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And oh mi goood Harvey Weinstein has a Pisces Venus and Sun! And Neptune, Saturn in Libra! How bot that!

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posted November 13, 2017 01:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for florence     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's a good observation. Now you mention it, it does ring true. I think with those two signs, directness in manner is more upsetting than the content of that. They're both adept at being evasive, charming etc and anything that forces anything contrary to that is interpreted as a threat. I wonder if one sign ekes out the ability of the other sign to be how it wants. Libra being affiliated with truth and fairness, Pisces with illusion and mesmerism.

I forget what that aspect is called .. Opposite and one sign to the side but maybe it's to do with that.

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posted November 14, 2017 11:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spica     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi

I am a Pisces ascendant with libra moon and Venus. I don't know what jerkil and hide is.

Both Pisces and libra are very feminine signs. One is the domicile of venus and the other is its exaltation. A person with this combination is inncocent, compassionate, polite and sweet.

I would like to meet another Pisces libra combo person. I don't believe I ever have. Maybe it will help me believe in humanity again.

Other than that I am a Virgo, with Mercury in Virgo aspecting pluto, mars in Scorpio. Which on the other hand, is more pluto like energy, raw truth and honesty.

I am glad I have a good mars and Mercury because that way it doesn't make me completely weak, vulnerable and stupid.

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posted November 14, 2017 11:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spica     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Melinn:
And oh mi goood Harvey Weinstein has a Pisces Venus and Sun! And Neptune, Saturn in Libra! How bot that!

Placement of Saturn doesn't have anything to do with a person's outward personality.

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posted November 14, 2017 02:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Melinn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Placement of Saturn doesn't have anything to do with a person's outward personality.

The ruler of his Venus and Sun is Neptune and Neptune is in Libra Thats the connection I saw and ment, but yes maybe not as the same as having personal planets in Libra etc

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posted November 14, 2017 10:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Both Pisces and libra are very feminine signs.

Libra is a masculine sign. That, and it's cardinal to boot.

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One is the domicile of venus and the other is its exaltation. A person with this combination is inncocent, compassionate, polite and sweet.

LOL!! Good one.

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posted November 18, 2017 06:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted November 19, 2017 01:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Both can be passive -agressive.

Pisces ime when drunk, spill out. And its not always what you want to hear.

Libra can be super charming but can be sly. Air can switch off emotionally and be very cerebral when it suits them.

One of the things I used to criticize my ex about(a Libra) was how he would "switch". Sometimes he would be cordial, sometimes romantic, many times charming . But seldom consistently sincere.

After we broke up,he became such an ****. He said some pretty nasty things about us and I was really taken aback by all the rumours.

Recently his charming self has returned. Called me to catch up and our conversation was so suggestive. Like he wanted another go at a relationship?

Sly...very sly.

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posted November 19, 2017 06:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Melinn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Both can be passive -agressive.

Pisces ime when drunk, spill out. And its not always what you want to hear.

Libra can be super charming but can be sly. Air can switch off emotionally and be very cerebral when it suits them.

One of the things I used to criticize my ex about(a Libra) was how he would "switch". Sometimes he would be cordial, sometimes romantic, many times charming . But seldom consistently sincere.

After we broke up,he became such an ****. He said some pretty nasty things about us and I was really taken aback by all the rumours.

Recently his charming self has returned. Called me to catch up and our conversation was so suggestive. Like he wanted another go at a relationship?

Sly...very sly.


Is he a Libra Sun?

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posted November 19, 2017 07:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Libra Sun , Virgo Moon,Libra Venus, Sag Mars.

He is sweet talking me into coming to visit. A week ago a friend took a pic of me and friends having fun at a pool party and put it on Facebook.

A couple of days later he calls me to say I clean up well and laid the charm on super thick. Insisting to come and visit just for all times sake. I think he wanted sex

I have forgotten most of what he has said about us and our past relationship because I know how pretentious he can be. I am not there.

I think I just wanted to illustrate that the Libra charms can be prone to change. Libra can disguize their less palatable nature to keep up pretenses. At worst they can border on being a calculating social climber.

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