posted November 14, 2017 05:56 AM            

In case you're wondering they have pretty laid back moons I think...
Grandma- Taurus moon
Aunt- Taurus moon
Mom- Virgo moon
Grandpa- Leo moon

posted November 14, 2017 06:42 AM            

My dad has a Leo Moon + Cancer Mars and when he gets angry one needs to step aside..

I think the difference with certain Moons and Mars’ is that the anger is not detectable until they’ve actually gone over the top and then it becomes a deluge of fury instead :-/

posted November 14, 2017 06:57 AM            

Water Sun/Moon/Mars tend to bypass rationality when hurt and will tend towards extremes. Thats why it looks so "exaggerated".

Any aspects to Sun/Moon/Merc from Mars? Or aspects from Jupiter/Saturn/Uranus and Pluto to Mars?

Anger also comes from the home environment one grew up under. Aspects to Moon/Ic may suggest what the childhood experience was and what was absorbed.

Mom has Mars in Cancer opp Saturn. And I have seen her get angry. But not in the fashion described.

posted November 14, 2017 07:48 AM            

Instead of a water Mars, my brother has these aspects:
Mars opposition Saturn - orb of 1
Mars trine Uranus - orb of 6
Mars sextile Pluto - orb of 5

Don't let those soft aspects fool you. Even though not all the orbs are tight, I think they apply.

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In my case, I have an extreeely early Mars. We're talking less than 10 minutes into Aries. I'm nowhere near as bad as my brother, but I do have Mars in a watery house, the 4th house, and my Moon squares Mars too. If I get angry enough, I need a physical outlet or I'm hard to control. Instead of destroying objects, however, I tend to become self-destructive.

Other aspects I possess include:
Mars quintile Uranus - orb of 0
Mars trine Pluto - orb of 8

With the Mars trine, I relate to descriptions of the aspect, so I assume it applies to me. I think it applies to me since both Mars and Pluto, the rulers of my Scorpio Ascendant, aspect my Ascendant.

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posted November 14, 2017 08:48 AM            

In the past eight years, my anger level has grown, and I've been a bit destructive, but that was due to someone literally naked me crazy. I have had to defend myself physically, but I don't start that.

Mars in fire, in the other hand - they all had/have tempers. The ones I grew up with.

posted November 14, 2017 08:56 AM            

Al Capone.

Roger Federer too, infamous for throwing temper tantrums in court when he was younger.

Also know a very strong Pisces Mars, he is not temperamental but when you see him you know you should not mess with him.

posted November 17, 2017 07:01 AM            

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Originally posted by ReeseC:
I personally believe that fire Mars placements display their anger very forwardly, aggressively, and then it's done. Water mars placement tend to simmer then explode and then dwell until "the deed is done". Cancer mars will emotionally withdraw, Scorpio mars will manipulate and gaslight, and Pisces mars will have such tunnel vision in their anger that they are willing to sacrifice any sense of rationale.

Just from my observation though

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It isn't true in my house. Fire Mars will hold that grudge. Those I am related to. Not my dad: he has bars in Aries, and your description is true for him. But Mars in sadge and Leo - watch out. My mother had Mars conjunct Pluto in Leo. She could be very forgiving, eventually.

posted November 17, 2017 04:03 PM            

My Dad has mars in Pisces. Rarely angry. He will be angry if my Mom influences him to do the act of anger but usually he will do the opposite, only one time he looses the control as my Mom can't stop blaming him because he can't be angry to his children. That one time he then disappears and may look bad/sad for two days and will say less words. She can be a big bully, sorry Mom , especially when she acts passive-aggressive. Have never seen him throwing anything yet too all of my life.

Boyfriend has Mars in Cancer. Vindictive. He has Mars trine Pluto. When everything is good, he can be the sweetest Mars. When everything is bad, totally a selfish human being I've ever met and will always blame you for making him mad while the source of problems may come from him, like, he will be always in defensive mode all the time instead looking out the real problems, talking about it with cool head and finding the solutions. Have never seen him throwing anything yet too but he can be physical twice harder as he is bigger and taller than me. The physical started when he got caught by me having two relationship (he was back and forth to his ex and to me if he got rejected by one of us) and lied the whole time. As a Sag mars, I will tell the brutal truth of the problem, including the darkest one in front of the person I get mad of. He couldn't accept that truth as it made him look bad and he believed himself as doing everything right! (narcissistic alert?) He was never ever wrong and will never ever admit anything!

Last month was actually our most intense argument that after he left me while trying to take a normal breathe, I went to graveyard that night cried out loud and called my Mom telling her that I couldn't take everything anymore that I wanted to die. I was there alone with my Mom on the phone for almost 3 hours crying. But then my male friend - Aqua sun - came to the graveyard accompanying me until I finished my tears.

That day, I caught his text playing with fire again with his new female co-worker, I lost my control slapping him as he still lied to me and still had the same behavior that he broke his own promises again. He hit my head very hard twice, like, I could feel the blood in my head went down to my neck and he chocked me until I almost couldn't breathe. When he saw me becoming helpless he then quickly leave the scene and withdraw for two weeks without responding my break up text and threatening him to not ever coming back to my place. (I don't want to move around anymore). I took his silent treatment as the answer that we were done.

The same old situation happened, he came back knocking my door on the day off. I really thought it was a mail man as I also was waiting for a package. He insisted to go inside and my neighbors started looking at us because I tried to close my door and told him to go but he pushed it. I didn't want to attract a lot of attention from my neighbors as I like being private with my problems, so I let him in. He hugged me, like almost squeezed me, and that was the first time ever after years (like, who can stay for more than 3 years with unfaithful partner? Me, d*mn venus in Pisces), he said he wanted to fix everything. He begged me to not destroy the relationship but to fix it together and he felt guilty hitting my head.

So we will see. The Aries in me waiting for the reach point. When mad, he can loose all of his control and everything will be driven by emotions. Sometimes will do guilt-trip or passive aggressive if you response him with silent treatment. Plus, because of his anger issue, I have to learn to manipulate which I hate it although it works. With mars in Cancer, simple, talk with sweet words and nice, they will listen and they see you as a good people. Which is ridiculous to me. But to get into his good side, be faked a little bit, only talk nicely to his face but it's up to you trash talking him in the back, like doing passive-aggressive too.

posted November 17, 2017 07:01 PM            

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Originally posted by hearttreasure:
My Mom and brother have mars in Cancer. Have never seen them throwing anything yet all of my life. ....

Boyfriend has Mars in Cancer. Vindictive. He has Mars trine Pluto. When everything is good, he can be the sweetest Mars. When everything is bad, totally a selfish human being I've ever met and will always blame you for making him mad while the source of problems may come from him, like, he will be always in defensive mode all the time instead looking out the real problems, talking about it with cool head and finding the solutions. Have never seen him throwing anything yet too but he can be physical twice harder as he is bigger and taller than me. The physical started when he got caught by me having two relationship (he was back and forth to his ex and to me if he got rejected by one of us) and lied the whole time. As a Sag mars, I will tell the brutal truth of the problem, including the darkest one in front of the person I get mad of. He couldn't accept that truth as it made him look bad and he believed himself as doing everything right! (narcissistic alert?) He was never ever wrong and will never ever admit anything!

Last month was actually our most intense argument that after he left me while trying to take a normal breathe, I went to graveyard that night cried out loud and called my Mom telling her that I couldn't take everything anymore that I wanted to die.

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Interesting, I wonder if your bf has the same chart as me but as I mention before I'm more mercurial and more "pure Gemini" then he is.

As per balancing you and the ex I think he was playing option play.

If you rejected him he has the other girl to turn to, if the other girl rejected him he can go back to you.

His Cancer emotion could stand to be rejected.

If both girls rejected him or both wanted him thats when problems arise.

Its tricky with a cancer like gem because they are emotional but will try to use some smarts to avoid injury at the expense of the other person.

I'm sorry to hear he made you cry at the graveyard.

My best Aqua female friend already knows me by now, plus she's intuitive. When I'm peeved she just knows when to ignore me. When she knows I'm a clam thats when she starts answering the phone again.

Her bf is a pure Cancer, who I think is lazy and whinny.

I don't know if that would work with your Gem. Its different because she's actually helped get rid of some of my negative traits.

For example I still run when I have to but because of her sometimes I will stick through things.

Right know, I'm debating if I should drop Computational Geometry that course is hard as f"ck, the class average is a C.

I look at my mark and say I could probably pass it but just barely. Normally, I whould drop but she's pressuring me just to get my pass and move on.

So I think that could be it, your Gem has alot to learn and being an Aquarius there stubborn enough to teach it,

posted November 17, 2017 07:10 PM            

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Originally posted by SoulOfABird:
A lot of members in my family are super scary when they're mad. Some are slower to anger than others but when they get mad they can be scary. I was looking at their charts and I notice the only similarity I saw was that a lot of them have a water mars. My mom, grandma, grandpa, and Aunt. My aunt was diagnosed with by bipolar disorder but she denies having it. She is crazy, and when she's mad she super destructive. I havent seem her in action, but Ive heard stories. Looking at her Sun and Moon(ironically her and my grandma have the same sun-moon combo and they dont get along at all) it's Sun Gemini Moon Taurus. But I notice she has a Cancer mars. When she's angry she's made herself throw up, hit and kicked her mom(my grandma), punched a glass window. Crazy stuff. I also notice, with my mom(Scorpio mars) even though she isnt as bad as my Aunt, she still gets very awful when she's angry. She will yell and cry and her face will get red and Ive seen her throw things at my grandma and call her an awful name. Happened to my grandpa too she called him an ******* one time. She takes a bit more time to get there, but when she does she's looney. But with her she will apologize after, my aunt won't. My grandma also has Scorpio mars, and although fot the most part she is usually quite composed she will eventually get to a point of anger that is more normal but she has gotten so mad at me before that she has slammed the door and told me "F you" once. It RARELY happened all my life, but I still seen her loose control of her anger like thar at leasr twice. My grandpa also has anger problems (Cancer mars) he is more physical gets mad a breaks things. Of course everyone gets angry. But the way my family does seems like they have no self control once they get to a certain point. I just noticed that they all have water mars. Anyone else notice this? Or is it something else in their charts? Im interested in seeing if there are any patterns to this or what could cause this anger and no composure?

In case you're wondering they have pretty laid back moons I think...
Grandma- Taurus moon
Aunt- Taurus moon
Mom- Virgo moon
Grandpa- Leo moon

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I think the problem is there is an expectation that mars in cancer people would never hurt a fly.....Then when pushed to the limit they will come back at the person right out of the blue.

If they've never been pushed or they've never been hurt they will never retaliate back.

But if they have they will remember it and go target that person.

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posted November 20, 2017 11:46 AM            

I had a mars in cancer client break all his knuckles from punching someone in the face.

Mars in scorpio is another placement that anger builds up and then BAM it explodes lol and yes they look nice but don't mess with them you will see how adept they are at defending themselves and you are in for a surprise.

posted November 20, 2017 02:22 PM            

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Originally posted by AriesLilith:
Wouldn’t the aspects play a big role on how anger is shown?
In my family there’s a Pisces Mars conjunct Mercury, Sun and Chiron, opposed to Pluto with sextile to Moon and trine to Neptune. Scary anger, emotionally explosive.
Then another one has Virgo Mars conjunt Moon and Virgo Sun. Anger builds up quickly and emotionally explosive. Everyone is scared often.

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YES, AL, aspects greatly modify the sign.

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posted November 21, 2017 02:14 PM            

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Originally posted by DualGemV2:

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I'm sorry to hear he made you cry at the graveyard.

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It's ok. I almost feel like I'm getting used to the hurt and I don't dwell on it for more than a week anymore although I do still have a self-destructive tendency that I can loose my appetite to foods. I can survive 3 days with no foods to eat if I get stressed too much about the relationship. I don't know why he won't leave me alone. I have asked him to break up numerous time because it's not healthy for me but he keeps showing up. It's like a vampire sucks my energy every time. I also encourage him to go back to his longtime ex that I am willing to lie if he needs me to safe his a*s so he can leave me forever.

I broke down to him one time that I told him I couldn't survive if he kept torturing me just because he had a hard time to commit, couldn't let go the past that led him to indecisiveness and trust issue and vindictive, but still wanted me around waiting for him, why didn't let me go so I could be healthy and happy and perhaps he could be happy too with new women without being sneaky behind my back?

I know he played those games, not only me with his ex, but also me with his female co-workers or female friends. I feel like an option or being compared the whole time. It worsen when he admitted that he did the comparison between his ex and me that made him so confused choosing as both had flaws. His ex cheated on him but she gave him all the attention he needed while I was the independent, having good education and job, making a lot of male friends that the attention I gave was not enough for him.

I am also an intuitive, I actually GET him, but he likes to abuse me emotionally. If I don't response, he will accuse me having an affair and will try to get a pay back or threatening me until I response. If I response, he is not in the good side and we will be in intense argument because he is so emotional and if I hang up, for sure, he will take a revenge by not speaking up to me for days or treating me like I am nothing. I feel like every move I choose is wrong.

He also still likes to run from the things he thinks complicated or hard or too much for him to handle. He still keeps talking to me about his consideration to take a new job. I am the type of a person who if I know the person I deal with is a stubborn too, I won't even try to change their mind, instead I will suggest them to really make sure if it is for the best then leave them to make the decision. Who says Cancer mercury can not be stubborn? Yes, they can be, like, holding on to the past memories.

"Moon in Aries can be slowly but surely lose interest in someone after being hurt too much, that it's impossible to get them to care the way they did again once that point is reached." -- I almost reach the point as I don't even have intense emotions anymore with everything he says or does to hurt me. I just feel slowly numb inside. If I don't have my water venus, I may never stay that long.

Yes, it is true that he needs a lot to learn. I have told him that too. His father was an alcoholic and now sick with no job. During the alcoholic time, his father was physically abusive to his Mom. His Mom is similar with him: can't stay at home, loud and can be combative in a conversation, very sensitive to criticism and emotional, BUT will act very shy and innocent look with new people. It's like you have met two person in one body. She doesn't act like a nurturing mother to him instead letting him do whatever he wants to do but she has one rule: he should never try to bring his problems to her home or I don't know what happen but one time he came to my place and cried because of it. How he grew up and how I grew up in the family and the environment is so 180 degrees different.

I think the reason he keeps staying because he keeps learning from me and the fact that I keep everything honest although my honesty can bring us into an argument. Sometimes I feel he is so dumb when easily falling for sweet talk/charm. Sometimes I feel he is so superficial when judging nice people is the one of the kindest and he can trust while he doesn't even try to get to know them in a deeper way. And sometimes I feel he is so superior thinking he knows best about everything while you know he just knows little about somethings as he likes to drop any complicated situation fast. He also dislikes reading books of good knowledge. He tends to watch extreme news like horrible accident or creepy weird dark videos instead of watching positivity or something brainy. I don't know if his past longtime plutonian relationship with Libra/Scorpio stellium conjunct pluto affects him like that. It's hard for me though as I am only a human and not God that I also have some limits to deal with someone who has gotten brainwashed or maybe at the time he didn't know what was healthy relationship or not. Fortunately I have some knowledge about psychology or human behavior as I spent my college years reading books, for years I keep analyzing his behavior to find the root of the problem of why he did what he did (I don't have a choice as he keeps showing up) and try to casually talk to him about my findings. I think he learns something little by little from it but my energy is also drained.

posted November 21, 2017 04:56 PM            

I mostly get angry because of things mentioned above but also because of passive aggressive or spiteful or insensitive or selfish people. Though i‘m not vindictive and my anger passes quickly, i never forget reasons that caused my anger and become cautious, wary of and distant toward people who caused it.

posted November 21, 2017 08:27 PM            

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Originally posted by hearttreasure:
It's ok. I almost feel like I'm getting used to the hurt and I don't dwell on it for more than a week anymore although I do still have a self-destructive tendency that I can loose my appetite to foods. I can survive 3 days with no foods to eat if I get stressed too much about the relationship. I don't know why he won't leave me alone. I have asked him to break up numerous time because it's not healthy for me but he keeps showing up. It's like a vampire sucks my energy every time. I also encourage him to go back to his longtime ex that I am willing to lie if he needs me to safe his a*s so he can leave me forever.

I broke down to him one time that I told him I couldn't survive if he kept torturing me just because he had a hard time to commit, couldn't let go the past that led him to indecisiveness and trust issue and vindictive, but still wanted me around waiting for him, why didn't let me go so I could be healthy and happy and perhaps he could be happy too with new women without being sneaky behind my back?

I know he played those games, not only me with his ex, but also me with his female co-workers or female friends. I feel like an option or being compared the whole time. It worsen when he admitted that he did the comparison between his ex and me that made him so confused choosing as both had flaws. His ex cheated on him but she gave him all the attention he needed while I was the independent, having good education and job, making a lot of male friends that the attention I gave was not enough for him.

I am also an intuitive, I actually GET him, but he likes to abuse me emotionally. If I don't response, he will accuse me having an affair and will try to get a pay back or threatening me until I response. If I response, he is not in the good side and we will be in intense argument because he is so emotional and if I hang up, for sure, he will take a revenge by not speaking up to me for days or treating me like I am nothing. I feel like every move I choose is wrong.

He also still likes to run from the things he thinks complicated or hard or too much for him to handle. He still keeps talking to me about his consideration to take a new job. I am the type of a person who if I know the person I deal with is a stubborn too, I won't even try to change their mind, instead I will suggest them to really make sure if it is for the best then leave them to make the decision. Who says Cancer mercury can not be stubborn? Yes, they can be, like, holding on to the past memories.

"Moon in Aries can be slowly but surely lose interest in someone after being hurt too much, that it's impossible to get them to care the way they did again once that point is reached." -- I almost reach the point as I don't even have intense emotions anymore with everything he says or does to hurt me. I just feel slowly numb inside. If I don't have my water venus, I may never stay that long.

Yes, it is true that he needs a lot to learn. I have told him that too. His father was an alcoholic and now sick with no job. During the alcoholic time, his father was physically abusive to his Mom. His Mom is similar with him: can't stay at home, loud and can be combative in a conversation, very sensitive to criticism and emotional, BUT will act very shy and innocent look with new people. It's like you have met two person in one body. She doesn't act like a nurturing mother to him instead letting him do whatever he wants to do but she has one rule: he should never try to bring his problems to her home or I don't know what happen but one time he came to my place and cried because of it. How he grew up and how I grew up in the family and the environment is so 180 degrees different.

I think the reason he keeps staying because he keeps learning from me and the fact that I keep everything honest although my honesty can bring us into an argument. Sometimes I feel he is so dumb when easily falling for sweet talk/charm. Sometimes I feel he is so superficial when judging nice people is the one of the kindest and he can trust while he doesn't even try to get to know them in a deeper way. And sometimes I feel he is so superior thinking he knows best about everything while you know he just knows little about somethings as he likes to drop any complicated situation fast. He also dislikes reading books of good knowledge. He tends to watch extreme news like horrible accident or creepy weird dark videos instead of watching positivity or something brainy. I don't know if his past longtime plutonian relationship with Libra/Scorpio stellium conjunct pluto affects him like that. It's hard for me though as I am only a human and not God that I also have some limits to deal with someone who has gotten brainwashed or maybe at the time he didn't know what was healthy relationship or not. Fortunately I have some knowledge about psychology or human behavior as I spent my college years reading books, for years I keep analyzing his behavior to find the root of the problem of why he did what he did (I don't have a choice as he keeps showing up) and try to casually talk to him about my findings. I think he learns something little by little from it but my energy is also drained.

My Aqua male friend told me that "no body is perfect, any one can make a mistake. He may have cheated on you, but if he says sorry and you still love him you can hold on to that feeling and try to work on it. He may be very insecure that I can understand him as I also came from a difficult family." I jokingly said to him that "I hate you for saying the right things." His words kind of stuck in my head.

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Its interesting because my Aqua friend is with a Cancer and what you just described sounds identical to him.

He sounds broken but needs you and your nice enough to keep him around.

I wish you could get rid of him he sounds toxic!!!.