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ChildofVenus
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posted November 19, 2017 01:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know all the negative things that come along with this lifestyle. I'm just curious if having either one of these placements would be aspects of someone who would be a Sugar Baby.


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posted November 20, 2017 06:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aqualilith09     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I used to be a Sugar Baby I guess, but I don't have either of those planets in the 8th.

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posted November 20, 2017 06:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No. I have one of those placements - Venus, and it's also sextile to Jupiter - and I'm disgusted by it.

I used to know a guy who would praise the young women who lived that lifestyle. He was obsessed with his first one, who did more than have sex with him - and she eventually moved on to marry her boyfriend when she was 24. He was looking for another one, and at the same time, would insult "older" women. He was a gross human being.

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posted November 20, 2017 07:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What is a sugar baby? I have heard of sugar mammas and daddys. Even "blessers". But sugar baby?

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posted November 20, 2017 10:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Melinn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have this in my chart with n.node in the mix. I'm supported economically, by my daddy. My real father haha. Well the housing situation is really hard in Stockholm, and I'm a university student and single I may add, so I live with my parents. I don't pay any rent, and my father gives me money for my own food and buys me stuff like computer, new phone etc. I pay for my clothes only, but he would pay for those too if I let him. He is doing well economically so he can afford "me" so to speak. I'm not spoiled at all and know how super previliged I am, and so greatful for all this.

This is a "cultural" thing for my family. The single child is being taken care of until he or she marries. I'm not the norm though since people in my culture marries in their 20ths.

I'm single so. And if I had a job I would of course pay rent and food! I'm gonna move out hopefully as soon as I graduate and get a damn job! But it may be hard to find a flat..

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posted November 20, 2017 10:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Melinn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
What is a sugar baby? I have heard of sugar mammas and daddys. Even "blessers". But sugar baby?


I think it refers to the one being "taken care off". The sugar daddies baby.

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posted November 20, 2017 10:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Melinn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It seems the chart owners chart you posted is born the same year as me. Only 9 days before me!

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posted November 20, 2017 10:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I have this in my chart with n.node in the mix. I'm supported economically, by my daddy. My real father haha. Well the housing situation is really hard in Stockholm, and I'm a university student and single I may add, so I live with my parents. I don't pay any rent, and my father gives me money for my own food and buys me stuff like computer, new phone etc. I pay for my clothes only, but he would pay for those too if I let him. He is doing well economically so he can afford "me" so to speak. I'm not spoiled at all and know how super previliged I am, and so greatful for all this.

This is a "cultural" thing for my family. The single child is being taken care of until he or she marries. I'm not the norm though since people in my culture marries in their 20ths.

I'm single so. And if I had a job I would of course pay rent and food! I'm gonna move out hopefully as soon as I graduate and get a damn job! But it may be hard to find a flat..



What are you going to school for if you don't mind me asking? The chart I posted is mine. Some of the things you mentioned is similar to me. I am grateful for my parents but they are too controlling. Especially my dad and I HATE it I know it's because his Saturn squares my Mars.

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posted November 20, 2017 10:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
What is a sugar baby? I have heard of sugar mammas and daddys. Even "blessers". But sugar baby?


Young women prostituting themselves to older men. They have sex in exchange for a lot of money, sometimes give them "the girlfriend experience".

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posted November 20, 2017 10:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Melinn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted November 20, 2017 02:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh ok I see. "Blesser" and "blessee".

I know Taurus/Leo are the type to like to live in the lap of luxury. Taurus esp likes to be "kept".


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posted November 20, 2017 10:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted November 20, 2017 11:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Venus and Jupiter in my 8th house and I wish I was a sugar baby but I am not, mostly because the Virgo in me is very self sufficient and my Mars in Leo cannot abide. I don't mind it at all, thou, I am just not fit for it. Sigh.

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posted November 21, 2017 01:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I have Venus and Jupiter in my 8th house and I wish I was a sugar baby but I am not, mostly because the Virgo in me is very self sufficient and my Mars in Leo cannot abide. I don't mind it at all, thou, I am just not fit for it. Sigh.

I'm a Taurus and I've thought about it. But I feel that way too I'd rather be self sufficient.

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posted November 21, 2017 11:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DualGemV2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Melinn:
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No I don't mind at all, I study environmental science Bachelors degree

Make sure to learn GIS thought, its easy but it really makes you stand out, I find a lot of Taurus in that field OF study.

As per the topic Leo sun with Cancer placements.

I met one that would always want people to feel sorry for her.

She really played the "I'm a Poor starving student image", please feel sorry for me.

I Met her at work told my boss to keep her away from me as much as possible. Even if my Mars conjuncts her Venus she is not worth the hassle.

I think the sugar babies have the advantage because they can easily twist it and say that wasn't part of our "mutual exchange of consenting adults" and then is the end of it for the guy.

I'm sure everyone is familiar with all the sexual harassment allegations right now.

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posted November 21, 2017 04:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for margym0o     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can see Taurus being a culprit for this. Not necessarily in the sense that they want someone to do everything/provide everything to them on a silver platter (I can see Leos being more ok with this because they like the attention) but more in the search for security that someone "better off" can provide.

In my experience with the MANY Taurus-influenced people in my life (Moons especially it seems) they tend to date or marry people who can better their lives in some way whether it be through material possessions, status or flat out wealth. For instance...a man marrying a woman whose family owns a vacation property or a woman marrying a man who is highly educated and thus set up for a prosperous future. I don't see them being the types to choose someone who they see as "beneath them" (for lack of a better term) or someone who has nothing to offer.

Taurus is inherently a very selfish sign...and they are very good at looking out for their own best interests.

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posted November 21, 2017 11:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FatedCinderella     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by teasel:
Young women prostituting themselves to older men. They have sex in exchange for a lot of money, sometimes give them "the girlfriend experience".


I like how you don't sugarcoat things lol

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posted November 21, 2017 11:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I like how you don't sugarcoat things lol

Thanks. I used to, but I've dealt with a lot of crap, and we are in the era of people voting for those who aren't politically correct (yet get offended if you say something they don't like). I'm just over it all.

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posted November 22, 2017 12:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonMystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ChildofVenus wrote: "What are you going to school for if you don't mind me asking? The chart I posted is mine. Some of the things you mentioned is similar to me. I am grateful for my parents but they are too controlling. Especially my dad and I HATE it I know it's because his Saturn squares my Mars."

What's your Saturn look like in your natal? Does he aspect your 8th house or those planets? Anything effecting your 8th via the 2nd?

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posted November 22, 2017 12:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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ChildofVenus wrote: "What are you going to school for if you don't mind me asking? The chart I posted is mine. Some of the things you mentioned is similar to me. I am grateful for my parents but they are too controlling. Especially my dad and I HATE it I know it's because his Saturn squares my Mars."

What's your Saturn look like in your natal? Does he aspect your 8th house or those planets? Anything effecting your 8th via the 2nd?


I have Saturn in my 4th house.

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posted November 22, 2017 12:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Empty Spaces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Thanks. I used to, but I've dealt with a lot of crap, and we are in the era of people voting for those who aren't politically correct (yet get offended if you say something they don't like). I'm just over it all.

Hey Teasel..how are you?
Sometimes we share some small comments and you told me about some issues you've been dealing with in your life,just a few things here and there but I feel like you were sad, I just hope you are okay,or a little better.
Sending some positive vibes for you

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posted November 22, 2017 09:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My fathers Saturn does square my Mars. Sometimes I wish he would go away. I know it's bad to feel that way. But that's really how I'm starting to feel.

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posted November 22, 2017 09:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a stellium, with Jupiter Cancer in that 8th, with sextile to my Moon Virgo H9.

I had heard a Vedic vid years ago now, that was drop-the-mic accurate about 8th House Cancer Jupiters. wow....


I've often been only TOO GLAD to help-out people, to lend a practical hand, my Heart...

My Care is Valuable.
My Energetic Attention on Others (H8 Cancer) is Worthy of Generous Support by people (Cappy 2nd).

I work in people's lives in 'mysterious ways' LOL! (H12 Scorpio with Sag in it). It's only 'in retrospect' that others see what I ADDED to their life and Life.

It nets Fruit for Others... and they can't even 'see' the effect of it, most of the time.

It takes Maturity and Time to reveal the treasure that some people are. It takes an ability to 'soft' assess, to have the innate capacity to look-backwards, to 'see' what became (in the future) hard-Benefits from the effects.. of having had (a person like me) IN their life, as me 'in' the targets of (reciprocated) Attention.

People (shallow) only prize the hard-benefit they think *they* have produced 'all by themself', and fail to recognize the soft-benefit of others who supported them.

In my life, the support others received, as they related to me..... might not have been recognized 'UNTIL I was gone' from their life-- after they 'lost' me.

I am part of a person's (maybe imperceptible, invisible) soft-support system.

Some people look at others 'hard' ... like they are ONLY a Cost center to them. Doesn't "directly" put Cash into the pocket.

After they lose you, after you're gone, they notice there's a Difference that is Missing. And maybe then in retrospect, 'some' might come to that 'realization' after it's too late to do anything about it.

There are some (with Sugar aspects?), who are WORTH investing in... that might not give immediate (or) hard-cash return... maybe even never if the situation wasn't Correct or Right in some instances? ... Expect the auric-advantages that these have (or can) 'add' to an Atmosphere.

Some WORTHS are not {monetarily-softBenefit} appreciated till they're gone from you...

How many artists even, do we Appreciate sooo much more NOW, when we can see the Benefit of The Beauty they Added to our lives, once they were Gone from our midsts, or from this earth?


Value can be measured .. Extrinsically or intrinsically-added.

Sometimes... with those who intrinsically-add to us-- when *Others* extrinsically Value them, these can surprise and even Bear MORE-Fruit, because *They* (The 'real' Givers) had been Valued, nurtured, provided-for, well-Loved, and engaged and Connected.

Value ... is MUCH MORE than money.
They who are Truly Rich can see Their Value.
Money doesn't live. The Memory of People is what lives inside our Hearts, and Memories.

(music) She's Out of My Life (Michael Jackson) [3:36] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DQJPL9Yuq0

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posted November 22, 2017 10:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mirage, there's something very different about what you talk about, and the sugar baby/sugar daddy experience. You are appreciated.

The men I knew who participated in this, loved to "date" women under the age of 25, and then insult women their own age and over.

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posted November 22, 2017 10:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Empty Spaces:
Hey Teasel..how are you?
Sometimes we share some small comments and you told me about some issues you've been dealing with in your life,just a few things here and there but I feel like you were sad, I just hope you are okay,or a little better.
Sending some positive vibes for you

Thank you very much. I'm not better, but I appreciate it.

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