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areesquivel
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posted November 23, 2017 03:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for areesquivel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My guy's best friend is a MAJOR cheater, I don't know his birth time so I wouldn't post the chart, but with his birth date I could see those Venus placements and it caught my attention.

Is that Venus in Gemini in hard aspect to Jupiter and Uranus (they are in a conjunction) in Sag, square Moon in Virgo the culprit?

I know Gemini Venus is a flirt but the cheater thing might come from Uranus?

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posted November 23, 2017 05:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I dont think cheating is an uranus thing at all. My partner is very faithful and he has Mars conjunct Uranus square venus. My mom and dad are both very faithful and both have venus in aquarius. My grandmother also very faithful had mars in aquarius. Saturn co rules aquarius after all.

Jupiter aspecting harshly venus or mars can be a red flag for that. Jupiter multiplies what it touches.

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posted November 23, 2017 05:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selenite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, my boyfriend has those same aspects but with Jupiter in Pisces square all of that also. He's the opposite of a cheater, but it's hard to grab his attention enough for him to commit in the first place.
He's also a Taurus Sun/Mercury with Cap Mars and rising, a keeps his word type of person, almost to fault

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posted November 23, 2017 07:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for areesquivel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mmmm the thing is this is something only his close friends know, no one else, his wife consider him the most amazing guy in the world and I know the truth.

His Mars has a wide conjunction to Mercury and wide trine to Moon.

Venus is afflicted squaring Moon opposite Uranus and Jupiter, and yes I do agree then maybe that Jupiter is culprit it conjucnts Uranus so maybe that's it, Jupiter also squares his Moon.

Saturn opposite Sun conjunct Pluto? could that be it also?

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posted November 23, 2017 07:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus in gemini is restless and freedom loving and you add it opposes jupiter conjunct uranus which reinforces this further taking it to that direction more as opposed to venus making aspects to saturn which will help restrain and calm down these tendencies.

I feel if he does not have an outlet for that restlessness and need for freedom and his value system questions if monogamy is realistic which with jupiter conjunct Uranus he very well may ask himself this a lot then you may get someone that cheats especially if jupiter, uranus or venus fall in his 5th house or rule his 5th house highlighting more the need for romance and diversity in his love life.

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posted November 23, 2017 08:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunAscendant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus in Gemini aspecting Jupiter and Uranus in Sag square a Virgo moon is mutable sign overload because Sag, Gemini, Virgo and Pisces are the mutable signs meaning they like to go with the flow and have a problem with consistency and follow through. The signs are important in this case.

I have Venus in Aries square Uranus conjunct Neptune in Capricorn in my 7th house and those are the tighest aspects in my chart. However, Aries and Cap are cardinal signs which aren't prone to cheating like the mutables are. I've never cheated on a guy in my life.

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posted November 23, 2017 08:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just came up with a theory that cheating is more a 2nd house thing bc in addition to it been an attempt to fill a need or find something it is often our values that determine if we act on that desire or impulse.

Like jupiter rules my second and conjuncts uranus but does not aspect anything else in my chart. I come up with my own views and question the status quo. My value system is open to change and transformation bc of the uranus influence but since saturn Co rules aquarius I also see a lot of value in limits and rules but question SOME rules which may lead to living on the edge regarding some things to test out these rules in a sense and see how I feel about them for myself. My mercury rx needs to find out on her own.

The older I get the more I respect limits and rules even though I rebelled first or questioned it first but I still know its complicated and that the person's venus and mars nature sometimes wins and overrides their 2nd house values. Sometimes we accommodate our values so we can act on the nature of our venus or mars.

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posted November 23, 2017 08:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SunAscendant:
Venus in Gemini aspecting Jupiter and Uranus in Sag square a Virgo moon is mutable sign overload because Sag, Gemini, Virgo and Pisces are the mutable signs meaning they like to go with the flow and have a problem with consistency and follow through. The signs are important in this case.

I have Venus in Aries square Uranus conjunct Neptune in Capricorn in my 7th house and those are the tighest aspects in my chart. However, Aries and Cap are cardinal signs which aren't prone to cheating like the mutables are. I've never cheated on a guy in my life.


Interesting so how old are you and how long has your longest relationship lasted? Have you ever been married?

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posted November 23, 2017 11:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus square Jupiter-A desire to have "more", no limitation, continual expansion.

Venus-Uranus square-Break away from social demands or patterns, emotional patterns that change sporadically; spontaneous likes.

Moon-Venus square. Domestic instability/disharmony. Not sure needs are met. Changing one's mind over what one wants.

Is Moon-Uranus in square aspect too? Because this explains the need to break away from emotional restrictions or obligations i.e relationships with rules.

Jupiter-Uranus in conjunction suggests that the individual wants to constantly and never-endingly expand in ways unscripted/ unpredictable.

The freedom one wants is uncompromised and can get even worse when there is a threat of "confinement". Endless curiousity about the unconventional. A moral outlook that is adhoc i.e I didn't know I had these values until I had these values.

It can make someone super interesting and attractive (especially with Venus in aspect). Because they come across so exciting and unusual.

But with the added aspect of Moon-Venus as well as the suspected interaction of Jupiter-Uranus in the mix. Being open to possibility is an emotional need. Emotional impulses and spontaneity are given full preference and interpreted as "emotional security".

Is he cheating or has he been honest about his nomadic way? Cheating imo is 12th house/Neptune thing. Uranus aspecting his Venus and Moon suggests someone who avoids emotional commitment and may opt for an open-ended relationship.

It also suggests someone who is quite open about that.

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posted November 23, 2017 11:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for areesquivel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:

Is Moon-Uranus in square aspect too? Because this explains the need to break away from emotional restrictions or obligations i.e relationships with rules.


Yes Moon square Venus, Jupiter and Uranus, trines Mars, sextile Saturn and Pluto.

Thank you for explaining this to me!

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:

Is he cheating or has he been honest about his nomadic way? Cheating imo is 12th house/Neptune thing. Uranus aspecting his Venus and Moon suggests someone who avoids emotional commitment and may opt for an open-ended relationship.


Don't really know what's the deal with his wife, I might not know behind close doors, she might even know and I don't know, I don't think so cause when my guy told me, he said it was something he was saying only to me and that his friend talked to him, so sounded hidden, maybe 12th house then though I don't have a birth time.


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Originally posted by SunAscendant:

Venus in Gemini aspecting Jupiter and Uranus in Sag square a Virgo moon is mutable sign overload because Sag, Gemini, Virgo and Pisces are the mutable signs meaning they like to go with the flow and have a problem with consistency and follow through. The signs are important in this case.


So adding the hard aspects and mutable signs gives a hard combo! yes cause I know people around same year with somehow similar placements and can't see that, though again the fact that important planets such as Venus and Moon are in mutable signs says a lot. Thank you!


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Originally posted by hypatia238:

Venus in gemini is restless and freedom loving and you add it opposes jupiter conjunct uranus which reinforces this further taking it to that direction more as opposed to venus making aspects to saturn which will help restrain and calm down these tendencies.


Yes that's what I thought, Venus in Gemini is like a flirt, I've seen that with Gemini Moon also.

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Originally posted by hypatia238:

I just came up with a theory that cheating is more a 2nd house thing bc in addition to it been an attempt to fill a need or find something it is often our values that determine if we act on that desire or impulse.


I wish I had birth time so I know the houses cause I feel that says A LOT when I do, I'll check 2nd house, that sounds like it I mean 2nd house talks values and self worth, then also 5th house cause of romances... 12th House if hidden no?

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posted November 24, 2017 01:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for diamondbaby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I associate infidelity with Uranus and Neptune.

Uranus - commitment phobia, restlessness, constantly seeking out new things, inability to form healthy, monogamous relationships

Neptune - deception, lies, foggy mind, fantasy, delusion

Sun aspecting one or both and Mars aspecting one of both can be a sign of infidelity, mainly the adverse aspects like squares and oppositions. Transits too. Placements like Sun and/or Mars in Aquarius/11th house or in Pisces/12th house can point towards infidelity too in my opinion.

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posted November 24, 2017 02:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for areesquivel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by diamondbaby:
I associate infidelity with Uranus and Neptune.

Uranus - commitment phobia, restlessness, constantly seeking out new things, inability to form healthy, monogamous relationships

Neptune - deception, lies, foggy mind, fantasy, delusion


Neptune has a trine with Sun and Moon but Uranus opposes Venus and Squares Sun. Neptune however conjunct South Node, don't know if that has anything to do.

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posted November 24, 2017 05:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Neptune's need to find a higher power/meaning or to scape or the search for "unconditional love" can manifest in cheating. Neptune is looking for something that will fill a void or is trying to scape.

Now from my experience and personal observations yes Uranus does not commit easily but when they do they take their commitment seriously and tend to be very faithful, they enjoy relationships based on friendship as the foundation. I think bc saturn co-rules uranus is why they avoid committing but if they do take it seriously.

Since jupiter multiplies what it touches yes if it aspects mars or venus it can be a red flag for cheating but I suppose other markers will also need to be present like mutable energy perhaps.

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posted November 27, 2017 05:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for capricorncheriscty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't really want to say anyone with any placements is going to cheat BUT I was reading on some other forums (on other sites) about cheating and a lot of people agreed that

Venus-Neptune
Venus-Uranus
Mars-Neptune
Mars-Uranus

was common in people who cheat, both natally and through synastry...I don't know about the sign placements though. I think sign placements are too vague, you should take the houses and aspects into account too.

They also said that (if in synastry) the person who held the Uranus or Neptune that was in the aspect was often the one who would initiate the cheating.

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posted November 28, 2017 12:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for diamondbaby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by capricorncheriscty:
I don't really want to say anyone with any placements is going to cheat BUT I was reading on some other forums (on other sites) about cheating and a lot of people agreed that

Venus-Neptune
Venus-Uranus
Mars-Neptune
Mars-Uranus

was common in people who cheat, both natally and through synastry...I don't know about the sign placements though. I think sign placements are too vague, you should take the houses and aspects into account too.

They also said that (if in synastry) the person who held the Uranus or Neptune that was in the aspect was often the one who would initiate the cheating.


I totally agree!

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posted November 28, 2017 01:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for areesquivel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by capricorncheriscty:
I don't really want to say anyone with any placements is going to cheat BUT I was reading on some other forums (on other sites) about cheating and a lot of people agreed that

Venus-Neptune
Venus-Uranus
Mars-Neptune
Mars-Uranus

was common in people who cheat, both natally and through synastry...I don't know about the sign placements though. I think sign placements are too vague, you should take the houses and aspects into account too.

They also said that (if in synastry) the person who held the Uranus or Neptune that was in the aspect was often the one who would initiate the cheating.


I have Neptune opposite Venus by a wide orb, and I do agree my biggest issue with love since Venus rules my 7th house is high expectations so I tend to live in dissapointment, I’ve never cheated though, so maybe Mars Neptune would make more sense.

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posted December 02, 2017 10:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by areesquivel:
I have Neptune opposite Venus by a wide orb, and I do agree my biggest issue with love since Venus rules my 7th house is high expectations so I tend to live in dissapointment, I’ve never cheated though, so maybe Mars Neptune would make more sense.

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