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Lalafortunaea
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posted November 25, 2017 12:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lalafortunaea     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So, a relative of mine just had a baby boy a few days ago. I wish them all the best! And was wondering if you guys wanted to take a crack at reading what his life will possibly be like?

Thing is, Chiron near his IC troubles me. His mother is quite rigid in a lot of ways - she would even consider doing astrology to be poppycock and can actually demonize people who are into what she considers "woo woo." I wonder if this means he'll suffer at home...
And that's not to say that he'll be into astrology, but his mother has a very rigid view of what's "normal" and if something is not normal to her, she gets nasty. Kind of like Petunia from HP.

Anyhow, if you wanna take a crack at it, what do you foresee in his charts?


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Kannon McAfee
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posted November 25, 2017 08:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Far more challenging than any asteroid placement is his Moon conjunct Pluto in Capricorn, plus Mercury conjunct Saturn. This is going to be a serious-minded kid. That's all I'm willing to say. Any more speculative flap about a 3rd party's chart is useless if they are in no position to benefit from it.

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posted November 26, 2017 07:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lalafortunaea     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
Far more challenging than any asteroid placement is his Moon conjunct Pluto in Capricorn, plus Mercury conjunct Saturn. This is going to be a serious-minded kid.



That's actually QUITE interesting! Because my cousin and I did speculate how it would be a bit funny if she had a serious, responsible kid, because his mother is very much irresponsible, and quite narcissistic, and prone to outbursts of rage. I do hope she grows as a person, but with reality as it is in her case, it's very much a 'wait and see' kind of deal.

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That's all I'm willing to say. Any more speculative flap about a 3rd party's chart is useless if they are in no position to benefit from it.

Fair enough, you don't have to. But that's not really true, now is it? He is a relative of mine, and me understanding him and how his life could play out could help me see things, which he would/could vicariously benefit from in some ways. And we often read charts of others that they don't know about here, anyhow.

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posted November 26, 2017 11:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moon in Cap is no walk in the park ( I have the square to Pluto) and I THINK the only thing that's saved me from succumbing to "seriousness galore", is the fact that my moon is in 5H trine Jupiter 9H. I could be wrong but I feel very Jovial I am also cat-like in all my curiosity for life

So his, very early degree, Sag Sun, might just help him along with the heaviness that Moon/Pluto might (will ?) give him?
I also read somewhere that Cap Moons sometimes have to grow up early, even when very young, to care for someone in household. I had to do it with my mother. I was far her superior, in the Taking Care of Family Department, by the time I had hit 10 :-/

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posted November 26, 2017 01:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lalafortunaea     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by charlie:
Moon in Cap is no walk in the park ( I have the square to Pluto) and I THINK the only thing that's saved me from succumbing to "seriousness galore", is the fact that my moon is in 5H trine Jupiter 9H. I could be wrong but I feel very Jovial I am also cat-like in all my curiosity for life

So his, very early degree, Sag Sun, might just help him along with the heaviness that Moon/Pluto might (will ?) give him?
I also read somewhere that Cap Moons sometimes have to grow up early, even when very young, to care for someone in household. I had to do it with my mother. I was far her superior, in the Taking Care of Family Department, by the time I had hit 10 :-/


That's pretty rough, and pretty heavy for someone so young. And yes, it is really 'wait and see', but from what I know, it looks like that could be a strong possibility for him. But cap is an Earth sign, so while it's hard, it does add stability to the situation.

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posted November 26, 2017 01:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AriesLilith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Someone spiritually wise told me that it might not be good to look at the chart of children younger than a certain age because it might influence how we interact with them which might influence how they might develop (something like this).

A potentially hard thing I can see which is probsbly obvious is that tsquare with Moon/Pluto and Mars and Uranus. Pluto cj Moon by itself seems intense, and with Mars square seems explosive. Moon can show how our mothers are, which might reflect his mother potentially being controlling and explosive.

But itís best not to over worry or interviene. I mean, let the child grow up and be there if he needs, but try to ignore the chart so to not interfere and actually self fulfill prophecy. Everyone has their own lessons to learn in a way or other, then overcome and become better.

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posted November 26, 2017 03:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lalafortunaea:
Fair enough, you don't have to. But that's not really true, now is it? He is a relative of mine, and me understanding him and how his life could play out could help me see things, which he would/could vicariously benefit from in some ways. And we often read charts of others that they don't know about here, anyhow.

Good point -- and fair enough as well. My "speculative flap" comment was more an indicator of my mood at the moment, I guess.

When we look at the declinations ...
Sun 20S15 is parallel Moon 19S53, so he's a strong-willed soul whose emotions are important. Don't let the Sag/Cap part fool you. He's strong, determined, purposeful with more a unity within himself than most.

Notice the Moon-Pluto conjunction is sextile Venus, and Moon is sextile Neptune. I'd say he's a deep, strong soul with lots of love, sensitivity, and capacity to endure in kindness and tolerance. Leadership potential indicated, but some tendency for pushiness, control issues, melancholy.

Mercury-Saturn is trine Uranus, so there is potential to participate in advanced communication or thought that involves moving of out of old thinking and stuck problems into innovative or transcendent solutions.

Also depends on where his Asc degree actually is. If taken as the chart is displayed, Saturn and Pluto are parallel Asc, thus reinforcing the part about potential for control issues and pushiness. That would guarantee it. How he handles it could be gracefully in leadership or getting bogged down in dysfunction.

He is someone who could be spoken to in an adult way virtually from the time he begins to form sentences. Don't talk down to him as adults often do to children. He'll likely become indignant and feel insulted. Instead, engage him in questions of a larger, philosophical, and spiritual nature in which the substance of mind and character are always reference points. Ask him questions like, "So what do you think is a good way to deal with that ..." Don't play games of denial about the obvious. Acknowledge the imperfections of persons and situations he's involved with and engage him in discussions about practical solutions that draw on his soul's deeper character.

He'll respond to this first better than to superficial displays of sympathy when upset or having difficulties with others. His emotions will always need to be acknowledged, but it's better not to analyze them or 'diagnose.' Leave that as his internal territory.

Intensely emotional, but contained and very prone to melancholy. Music could be helpful to stay emotionally balanced.

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posted November 30, 2017 07:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, Kannon.

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Astra
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posted December 02, 2017 09:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This kid will definitely be very serious and responsible. There will be something painful about his childhood with that moon conjunct pluto. I have moon in capricorn square pluto in scorpio along with a cap rising. My childhood sucked, but I overcame all of the obstacles that were thrown at me. Rest assured he will overcome any challenges as well. The key is to make sure he feels loved. Shower him with love and attention.

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Lalafortunaea
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posted December 02, 2017 02:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lalafortunaea     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Astra +Kan

That's what it looks like, that something'll be fairly tough, but hopefully as you say, he has the fortitude to overcome.

Thank you for that!

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