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Topic: 13 sign Astrology believers- Q
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MoonMystic
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From: ♤ Ethereal Umbra ♤
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posted December 01, 2017 05:28 PM
  
I'm asking because it has had
me seriously confused for sometime.This is going to sound
dense but sometimes my brain
is backwards. Please someone
reply who believes
13 sign Astrology.
I always hear of Ophiuchus as a Sun
sign and how it changes some people's Sun
from their old signs. Ok, but if we are to
use 13 signs, why doesn't Ophiuchus
operate at angles or with planets
'Other than the Sun? For instance wouldn't
everything need recalibrated to properly
use Ophiuchus?
Am I alone at wondering this? IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted December 02, 2017 10:41 AM
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mirage29
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Registered: May 2012
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posted December 03, 2017 08:07 PM
There's a difference between Sidereal and the Zodiac.13 Signs = Sidereal 
(Actual Constellations-- The Vedics use Sidereal also.) 12 Signs = Zodiac (traditional Western astrology, Tropical) <ref removed> IP: Logged |
anonymidarkness
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posted December 03, 2017 09:30 PM
Yeah everything would have to be recalibrated, the position of the planets in birth chart may also change for lots of people. I think even if 13 signs actually exist, astrologers would think twice before using it coz they'd have to change the whole system for it to fit, gather new informations......too much to lose. I think Vedic astrologers refrain from using the outer planets because of the same reason.IP: Logged |
MoonMystic
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posted December 04, 2017 12:27 AM
Thank you Mirage. ☺
Yes, I've watched his vids
and other Vedic ones too but
Nobody has ever addressed the
concept of Ophuchis rising
Or other planets, angles ruled
by ophuchis. IP: Logged |
MoonMystic
Knowflake Posts: 934
From: ♤ Ethereal Umbra ♤
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posted December 04, 2017 12:30 AM
quote:
Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
Yeah everything would have to be recalibrated, the position of the planets in birth chart may also change for lots of people. I think even if 13 signs actually exist, astrologers would think twice before using it coz they'd have to change the whole system for it to fit, gather new informations......too much to lose. I think Vedic astrologers refrain from using the outer planets because of the same reason.
Thank you, anonymidarkness.
I wondered so long. I appreciate your reply. It is too bad that with computers, as we have such sophisticated ones currently, that the reconfiguration couldn't be pretty simple. I admit to being highly curious how a sidereal chart using Ophuchis might look. For myself as well many others.
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anonymidarkness
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posted December 04, 2017 03:08 AM
quote:
Originally posted by MoonMystic:
Thank you Mirage. ☺
Yes, I've watched his vids
and other Vedic ones too but
Nobody has ever addressed the
concept of Ophuchis rising
Or other planets, angles ruled
by ophuchis.
Vedic doesn't put much emphasis on signs in my observation, it's mostly about houses, nakshatras and yogas, but even they would have to use 13 houses if Ophiucus is a valid sign. IP: Logged |
mirage29
Knowflake Posts: 8784
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Registered: May 2012
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posted December 04, 2017 08:44 AM
MoonMystic... If you regularly listen to his videos, he goes into it. Look through some of the video files. Look for the Ophiuchus vids. Scorpio - Ophiuchus - Sagittarius. If you really want to know, the information IS there. The other thing you could do is take the time to contact him. He'd appreciate the idea, or, could steer you towards the vids that contain the information you need/desire. He has the BEST info on this part of the sky (that I've seen). I also trust him, as a balanced and learned, spiritual person. You could book a reading with him also... and ask him DIRECTLY. I guess you have a Sun in Ophiuchus? (You didn't answer my question when I asked you before.) Wishing you a Happy Birthday. 
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mirage29
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posted December 04, 2017 08:48 AM
The other suggestion I'd have for you is to study Galactic Center material, as this part of the sky contains it.One more would be to look up material about the THIRD Decan of Sagittarius. As your birthday advances, I'm sure there will be more and more material available in the vid-astrology offerings. Best of luck to you.  IP: Logged |
MoonMystic
Knowflake Posts: 934
From: ♤ Ethereal Umbra ♤
Registered: Nov 2016
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posted December 04, 2017 10:42 AM
"I guess you have a Sun in Ophiuchus? (You didn't answer my question when I asked you before.)Wishing you a Happy Birthday. " Mirage, thank you, I'm not really interested
In hearing my report, as much as learning just various areas of the star sciences. I guess I'm just voracious to learn. lol My birthdate isn't in saggy, I'm an ASC saggy, Mirage. Thank you for the birthday wishes. My Sun is second decan Aquarius.  not too far away. My mother is a Sun saggy. Her birthday is in 2 weeks and my good friends is this Tuesday. I adore saggys. IP: Logged |
MoonMystic
Knowflake Posts: 934
From: ♤ Ethereal Umbra ♤
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posted December 04, 2017 10:47 AM
quote:
Originally posted by mirage29:
The other suggestion I'd have for you is to study Galactic Center material, as this part of the sky contains it.One more would be to look up material about the THIRD Decan of Sagittarius. As your birthday advances, I'm sure there will be more and more material available in the vid-astrology offerings. Best of luck to you.
You are always very helpful, thank you. I admire your plentiful knowledge and how you share too!
I hope my knowledge base in the future will expand. I'm a late bloomer, so my info appetite is enormous. lol
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mirage29
Knowflake Posts: 8784
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posted December 04, 2017 12:12 PM
I appreciate you too. You're a hard worker, always adding interesting material. I know some of the careful effort involved in putting together those asteroid-lists. You are astounding!  LOL. I forgot about your Saggy Ascendant. Yes, I think it was near my own. There's been a boost in my voraciousness and interest in buckling-down to learn more, too. Also, I've found a delightful surprise of experiencing a quantum leap in understanding recently, which ITSELF is so darn rewarding. *slurp* Hey! Urania (muse of astrology) recently joined the transit-party through Sag... our first house. And maybe with Mercury in Sag joining Saturn in last Sag--- trine Uranus Aries, and a resolving Trine to NN Leo--- it got energized??? FIRE!!! Gurl???? *snap* Tsk, We Be on FIRE!!!!!!!  {Your 2Decan Aquarius Sun trines my SagAsc!! *grin*} You've got Birthday Parties and Celebrations coming up. Cosmic Birthday Greetings for your Beloveds!! 
Astrology has a way of getting under your skin. Like words to this song ... 
(music) I've Got You Under My Skin (Cole Porter 1939, sung by Frank Sinatra) [3:43] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysR6ouUai6M IP: Logged |
mirage29
Knowflake Posts: 8784
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posted December 09, 2017 08:07 PM
I found another reference for you, MoonMystic.(topic) Preview of Ophiuchus, 2012 and the Galactic Center (Demetra George, Astrology University, posted Apr 29, 2012) [10:41] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9Lc9yBwFXQ IP: Logged |
mirage29
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posted December 09, 2017 08:26 PM
As an aside of interest to you---Demetra George lecturing ..
She includes interesting contemporary history of her experience with early astrologers that began to include asteroids in chart delineation. (topic) Asteroids- Windows into Fate and Destiny (Astrology University, posted Nov 7, 2014; speaker, Demetra George) [1:11:03] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JKLcnqrGtA Quote YT Notes:
Demetra George presents an astrological lecture on asteroids and fate for the 2006 Evolutionary Astrology Conference.
Learn more at www.demetrageorge.com Includes thoughts on the Three Fates.
The Daemon.
and more .... philosophy (Great speaker)
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capricorncheriscty
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posted December 10, 2017 11:12 AM
Sidereal does not always use the 13 signs does it though? Doesn't Vedic astrology make us of sidereal? I have never seen 13 signs being used in Vedic astrology before. "Sidereal" is simply referring to the method of calculation of the placement of the signs. In sidereal, you use sidereal time so all of the signs in a chart go back about 24 degrees...but there is no Ophiciuhus or however you spell this lol.IP: Logged |
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