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TensionEmpire
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posted December 06, 2017 05:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TensionEmpire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have read this can bring some enemies.
Do some have experience with this topic?

would aspects to mars tell you more about this "environment"

like could pieces energy add ilusion or Mars beeing in leo exageration?

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Randall
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posted December 07, 2017 05:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump!

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Aries23Degrees
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posted December 08, 2017 01:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think of this house as the house of social concern. It goes far above mundane life activities towards issues of collective interest i.e racial equality, sexuality non discrimination, gender equality, poverty alleviation etc.

The 12th and 11th usually involve themselves in things that affect the social structure in a collective sense. And people with planets there tend to feel the rhythm and waves of human progress. Often being the type to be quite involved in things that help steer humanity towards what they view as "evolution".

My sister has Mars in 11th. She is often very vocal about societal injustices and the welfare of people she comes into contact with. She is very much an activist but without the job title.

Because her Sun/Moon midpoint and Mercury/Moon midpoint is conjunct Mars,she can get quite personal and become emotionally affected by things she hears or watches on the news, through friendship circles if and when they touch on a larger societal point.

Mars in the chart is where we are likely to be combative/confrontational. Unless Mars aspects Saturn or Neptune, where in such cases we can be restrained(Saturn) or capitulate(Neptune).

But all the same, it does not negate from feelings reaching a tipping point and coming to a fantastic and often explosive finish.

With Mars being so featured in her chart and in the 11th. There are many blowouts that she has with people/friends and more especially with those who step on her social sensibilities i.e racist people, sexist people, homophobic people, conservative cultural types etc.

Mars in aspect to Pluto would exacerbate this. And Mars-Uranus(which she also has) could make the blowouts unpredictable.

Which planets aspect your Mars? What sign is your Mars in? It sounds to me like you are mortified at the possibility of making "enemies"

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TensionEmpire
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posted December 08, 2017 12:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TensionEmpire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can' t say right. I have libra acc.
My mars is at the same degree as of my moon. My moon is in the 6th house.
Now i read that the 6 house is the house of enemies

My mars is in the 11 house leo, together with Vęnus and Júpiter, so yes there is competition

I guess situation escalate when women are involved
I don't know what represents the law but she is also involved

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Aries23Degrees
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posted December 09, 2017 12:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why don't you post ur chart?

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TensionEmpire
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posted December 09, 2017 05:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TensionEmpire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Aries23Degrees
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posted December 10, 2017 12:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mars/Venus conjunct is in nature a contradiction. Just like Mars/Moon as well as Saturn/Mars , Saturn/Venus or Saturn/Moon.

It suggests a need to find balance between the need for passivity(Venus) with the need for action(Mars)

Wherever Mars aspects is where on one hand we are likely to find passion. But just as likely to stir conflict.

Mars heats things up and makes them hotter. Our attention/energy tends to flow to the planet that Mars touches as well as the house that Mars is in.

With Venus/Mars conjunct in 11th, friendships can play a huge role in your life. This is especially when we consider Leo as the sign of both.

At the same time however, friendships can also be the source of much conflict. Due to the combos need to spar and butt heads now and then.

If Pluto is in aspect(which in this case it is), it could suggest that things can get so heated, so sensitive. That friendships are written off because of passionate disagreements and fallouts.

On the other side of the coin however, Venus/Mars conjunct in 11th can also produce a loner individual who could be "anti group"(Mars). Because that makes them feel good(Venus)

Being by themselves(Mars) or independent from "group think" is what they like (Venus). So having Pluto conjunct this combo makes them fiercely protective of their own independence or greatly opposed(even despising) group involvement.

I see that Mars rules your Dsc and so you could either be.

1. Resolute in finding a partner or "the one"

Or

2.Not interested in marriage and preferring to fly solo

And with Pluto in aspect to the ruler of the 7th, you could go to extremes in either one. More likely the one that consistently makes you feel good/you derive the most pleasure from(Venus).

With the ruler of your 1st house conjunct the ruler of the 7th, either one of the two variables listed could be personality defining i.e you could be people crazy or care less.

Or you could go back/forth until you find a balance i.e "I love being in this group/friendships. I feel so alive" to "I really hate the drama that comes with having friends/being a part of a group. Maybe I should be friendless or associate with no-one" etc.

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TensionEmpire
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posted December 10, 2017 03:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TensionEmpire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
friendship plays a role in my life yes, but it has not be a source of conflict.
Non the less I have come to think that friends and family don`t think of me the way I think they do.

I live in another city for a while now, so it has reduced more to my family, and I do spend more time on my own now.

not that I do much for it but I apply for number one.

and number two is something that hounds my mind also.

I think that people get somehow intimidated/afraid by me

Maybe because I am not a normal player, I get my self on the scene quickly also wherever I go..

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ReadingTheStars95
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posted December 10, 2017 03:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ReadingTheStars95     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ah! I haven't read through this much yet, but I myself also have an 11th house Leo Mars.. It's cool to meet another.

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TensionEmpire
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posted December 11, 2017 05:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TensionEmpire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey, nice to meet you.
You ever wondered about your mars?
I started to wonder about mine now, I guess it can tell me about my behaviour

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