posted December 14, 2017 01:44 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
I feel it did get lighter at 29d Sag
Part of it is that Mercury is no longer conjuncting Saturn too, hence it feels lighter.

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posted December 14, 2017 01:55 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
If you include minor aspects, its all signs. But people often ignore the minor aspects . Even trines and sextile. Most give their full attention to squares,opp and conjunctions.

Cardinal signs Cap-conjunction
Cancer-Opp
Libra/Aries-squares

Fixed signs Scorpio/Taurus-sextile/trine
Leo/Aqua-inconjunct/semi-sextile

Mutable signs Pisces/Virgo-sextile/ trine
Sag/Gem-semi-sextile/inconjunct.

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posted December 14, 2017 03:24 PM            

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Originally posted by Stellia:
Are you thinking about this more in North node terms or on the nodal axis in general?

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N.Node, but how the person experiences Saturn-Pluto in transit to it will depend on how the person has behaved in the past.

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Just musing over whether a conjunction/parallel to the SN would be a karmic release point - a time to let go of old patterns/people/things that are holding you back (or they are taken from you, to force you in the right direction)?

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Absolutely. In the USA we just had a candidate for senator from Alabama whose past behavior from years ago cost him the election. Numerous women came forward speaking about how his inappropriate sexual behaviors had injured them. Some of it was decades ago, some of them weren't even women, but under-aged girls. The Saturn-Pluto transit is happening on his S.Node [21S38], with Pluto especially close [21S44]. This was one of those elections that was not hard to predict even though I don't have a chart with a specific Moon position, Asc or anything -- just the Nodes.

But as to those who will feel it most as originally asked, those with points at 22 north or south AND in middle to late Capricorn/cardinals will likely feel it the hardest.

As to questions about what to expect with various transits conjunct or opposite natal points ... Expect testing. Expect a period of more difficult growth in which you cannot move forward without letting go of baggage you think is protecting you or giving you power. External arrangements or patterns you cling to for stability or security may be broken. You'll have to rearrange, look elsewhere for empowerment, especially within.

posted December 14, 2017 04:16 PM            

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Originally posted by capricorncheriscty:
I think people are a bit dramatic no? Saturn is home in Capricorn so it won’t be such a bad transit, even if it is transiting through a supposed “bad” house in your chart? I think Saturn in Capricorn will only be difficult if you make it difficult. Saturn is not uneccessarily cruel and neither is Capricorn. They both have their reasons for restrictions and other such things in your life and they are usually good reasons too. They just want you to come out stronger; if you don’t come out stronger, then you didn’t learn the lesson of the house it was transiting. So long as you can understand this and keep pushing forward, it is really nothing to be scared of...this is for all signs, I feel.

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I like this.

I have been through the effects of Saturn in Sag and as a Sag sun it really did break my life apart and re-build and I ended up in a completely different country and future! So am grateful to that now.

I have Cap Asc so I hope saturn will help to build the foundations here.

posted December 14, 2017 04:22 PM            

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Originally posted by capricorncheriscty:
I think people are a bit dramatic no? Saturn is home in Capricorn so it won’t be such a bad transit, even if it is transiting through a supposed “bad” house in your chart? I think Saturn in Capricorn will only be difficult if you make it difficult. Saturn is not uneccessarily cruel and neither is Capricorn. They both have their reasons for restrictions and other such things in your life and they are usually good reasons too. They just want you to come out stronger; if you don’t come out stronger, then you didn’t learn the lesson of the house it was transiting. So long as you can understand this and keep pushing forward, it is really nothing to be scared of...this is for all signs, I feel.

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This is nice to read..yes, I've actually just been reading some more positive comments which make me feel a bit less concerned..saturn in cap meaning being more settled and serious about getting on with things etc. I can do with a bit of that (moon in leo..definitely a bit dramatic initially )

posted December 14, 2017 04:22 PM            

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Originally posted by areesquivel:

What to expect from an Opposition? it will oppose my natal planets, Mercury, Venus and Sun, I'm kinda scared cause my love life is a mess I was hoping to have some structure but internet stories about it makes me think it will hit hard

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For the Planet that is in its own sign, the effects may be very typical of that sign.Not to mention potent.

But don't be terrified. Its all about getting affairs in order.

If your love life is a mess, Saturn will bring clarity. Whether it hits Mercury, Venus or Sun because with all 3, you will feel much more focused on things that you want and rid yourself of any dead weight.

posted December 14, 2017 04:28 PM            

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Originally posted by girlwiththerainysoul:
I'm looking forward to it!

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posted December 14, 2017 04:42 PM            

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Originally posted by OnTheOtherHand:
This has almost made me look forward to it too...
http://astrobutterfly.com/2017/11/22/saturn-in-capricorn-december-2017-to-dec ember-2020-aim-high/

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YAY! That is what I was hoping for, I kept thinking maybe bc it will be home in capricorn it will be more positive the overall energy of it.

So far with my husband I find he is a lot more productive lately, I think saturn will give him structure and discipline to get things done and stick to a project since he often jumps around and doesn't finish things.

And yes I find he could use a reality check but in a positive way that is not discouraging but that makes him feel good about it, like now that I see more clearly maybe I can get somewhere type of deal!

Clarity is a good description for it, for me it brought clarity to my emotions, needs, wants and desires and it made me appreciate rules and limits more but it did feel really heavy and painful the energy of it I am not going to lie but it was in Sag and activating my neptune, sun and moon.

I think it been in Capricorn will feel better, less awkward yes so you cardinals will have a smoother ride with this transit. I am glad for you all.

posted December 14, 2017 07:46 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
For the Planet that is in its own sign, the effects may be very typical of that sign.Not to mention potent.

But don't be terrified. Its all about getting affairs in order.

If your love life is a mess, Saturn will bring clarity. Whether it hits Mercury, Venus or Sun because with all 3, you will feel much more focused on things that you want and rid yourself of any dead weight.

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posted December 14, 2017 08:54 PM            

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
Absolutely. In the USA we just had a candidate for senator from Alabama whose past behavior from years ago cost him the election. Numerous women came forward speaking about how his inappropriate sexual behaviors had injured them. Some of it was decades ago, some of them weren't even women, but under-aged girls. The Saturn-Pluto transit is happening on his S.Node [21S38], with Pluto especially close [21S44]. This was one of those elections that was not hard to predict even though I don't have a chart with a specific Moon position, Asc or anything -- just the Nodes.

But as to those who will feel it most as originally asked, those with points at 22 north or south AND in middle to late Capricorn/cardinals will likely feel it the hardest.

As to questions about what to expect with various transits conjunct or opposite natal points ... Expect testing. Expect a period of more difficult growth in which you cannot move forward without letting go of baggage you think is protecting you or giving you power. External arrangements or patterns you cling to for stability or security may be broken. You'll have to rearrange, look elsewhere for empowerment, especially within.

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posted December 22, 2017 06:40 AM            

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
Yes, especially those whose natal points are in middle to late Capricorn or other cardinal signs. Also persons with natal points at 21-22° south declination, which is where Saturn and Pluto will be during this period.

When Saturn hits 00CAP00 on December 19th, its declination will be 22S32, and Pluto's 21S34. When Saturn hits 00AQU00 21 March 2020, its declination will be 20S12, Pluto's 21S58. So you can see that area of 21-22° South declination is a hot spot to get hit by this double transit parallel natal points in that area.

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posted December 22, 2017 02:04 PM            

Any hard or soft aspects with Saturn moving into my 5th house, venus in cap?

what about pluto being there too?