posted January 24, 2018 06:15 AM            

Thanks! It's not born yet, but sure I'll check this out.

@Aries23Degrees:

posted January 24, 2018 07:31 AM            

I couldn't cite a signature though, I would look at the 4th the 4th and 10th rulers, condition of the Moon etc. etc. I'm afraid it has to come down to a lot of study, a good deal of experience and a bit of intuition too.

posted January 24, 2018 10:37 AM            

sun/moon opposition (or square)

posted January 24, 2018 10:50 AM            

I'm afraid it is true!

I was thinking the other day about maybe in the future I might be divorcing my husband and then I was peeking at the estimation of my unborn natal chart and curious to see the meaning of some of the hard aspect. I was reading the meaning of those hard aspect especially from the Saturn and the Uranus aspects and quite surprised especially with its Venus square Saturn aspect.

In the synastry my Venus square his Saturn, so I know how uncomfortable this aspect can be, the constant feeling of being letting down of my Venus making my Venus loose it's power to be the best version in the relationship, like, I feel my Venus (love/vulnerability) is getting abused/bullied by the Saturn.

The Uranus hard aspect it makes to some personal planets may indicate the instability/erratic behavior and my relationship is never stable as my partner has Gemini sun opposite uranus and he always has changeable interests or jobs which threatening my need of stability and security in the relationship.

posted January 24, 2018 11:05 AM            

So far I don't see moon in opposition or square to the sun based on the estimated dates, but who knows?

posted January 24, 2018 03:04 PM            

I loved my kids with all my soul, but I couldn't prevent the fact that I was married to someone who got greedy, and committed Crimes (for which he got caught). He 'used' them as pawns in the divorce and custody battles. They gave him what he wanted, and, he then COMPLETELY abandoned them-- He ended up getting very rich, and refused even child support...

Next after that, four/five years later, I "stupidly" married an 'abuser'... I turned into an inner jellied female-wimp from having been once a Strong Warrior Woman. They saw me 'melt' ... and they lost respect for me.

Later, my girls chose Money and Goods, as being more-important to them, than Love and Loyalties.

I know exactly what that is, in my chart.
Not going into a long delineation here.

Check what asteroid Ceres does to all the charts.

I read about it in Demetra George's book on asteroid goddesses. Amazing!

posted January 25, 2018 05:21 AM            

The Mars square Uranus. There's a possibility if the Moon is making an opposition to the Uranus, it will also make a square to the Mars. How volatile it is!

@mirage29:

It is a love challenge!

Can you imagine that the first time he knew I was pregnant, he suggested me to kill it and made an excuse as "we" were not ready. We, who? Then, he changed the excuses to my health?

posted January 25, 2018 12:20 PM            

I have moon square sun (exact), and venus square saturn. My mum became pregnant with me very early in their relationship, and was 'strongly encouraged' to marry my father when she was 3 months gone.

They eventually separated when I was 14 (so saturn opposition, saturn square venus!).

I have two sisters. One has moon opposite saturn and moon opposite uranus. The other has moon square uranus.

posted January 26, 2018 05:18 PM            

I am also 'strongly encouraged' to marry him but we have been in a 4 years of relationship since last year with a lot of unresolved issues. The fact is that he knows I don't have any desire to marry him because of those and also he knows that I only want to marry once for a lifetime as I have a little bit conservative view on marriage.

One day we discussed about 'the power of mind' and he told me that he constantly thinking about making me pregnant so we could get married without any obstacles from me or my parents/family. I was like, "what? Do you mean you have planned all of this so I never leave? How could you do this to me??" The next second I heard thousands of quick words that didn't answer my question at all and he started making an argument until I gave up and he changed the subject.

I'm almost still crying at night about it as I also start thinking about separation although I don't want to but we have a lot of issues since the beginning of the relationship that is hard to just let go.

posted January 26, 2018 06:04 PM            

My second has Uranus in the 4th square moon, and Sun square Pluto. It was during her pregnancy things started really coming apart though we didn't split for eight more years. I think this one feels it the most, and feel caught between her parents.

posted January 28, 2018 01:38 PM            

Thanks for sharing!

posted January 29, 2018 02:04 AM            

I have my moon conjunct pluto in my 1st house, when I looked this aspect up the first thing I read was Family hell which is very true. I came from a very dysfunctional family, parents defiantly divorced.

I met a guy who had Saturn square his moon and he confided in me that his dad was never around as a kid otherwise had a very great life

A guy I know with his moon square pluto seems to have the same intensity as I can with my emotions but seems to always need to be right to be honest although I think through learning in time he understands that it's okay not to be right. Self awareness is needed, maybe?

posted January 29, 2018 11:01 AM            

I'll be doing more on Ceres.

In the meantime, it suddenly dawned on me--

BOTH my PARENTS had their Saturns in Aquarius.

My own parents had a cold aloof and detached-style of parenting.
Not demonstrative people at all.
NO hugs.
The only touching in the house was the physical stress-altercations (fights and brawls) among siblings?

In those days, culture had an 'attitude' that would say--
When bullies come up to provoke? -- as in push-poke hit-and-punch you--, that THIS was to be interpreted, and dismissed as merely a "sign of 'affection" (i.e., they 'liked' you).
There was 'an expectation' that you were to dismiss what they did, and tolerate them for doing it?

My Saturn Aquarius parents were BOTH very rigidly religious.
And!
It was ALSO strictly-taboo to mention 'God' in the house.

posted January 30, 2018 02:18 PM            

"your moon is square to pluto. this shows ,again, a very reflective mind/emotional nature.the mother is a strong force in your life but mayuber not always in a good way.with this aspect and the mercury/Pluto midpoint square to Uranus/Saturn midpoint, it becomes more likely that you your parents are separated." - Todd

A post I put on a year ago asking if somebody could see a bit further in my birth chart and Todd answered, one of the answers being these two that I quoted from him!
I didn't expect somebody that has no idea who I am to pull that information with that much accuracy from a birth chart! It just shows how natal charts are really truthful ! My parents separated when I was younger and it has been a long time since I had any contact with him ! Also, to answer your second question, the dynamic of parenting also shows through the natal chart how someone can be a strong force, for me it showed that my mother is a strong presence in my life !

posted February 02, 2018 08:34 AM            

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Originally posted by diamondbaby:
Challenging aspects between the Sun and Moon, especially the opposition from what I have seen.

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My sun moon are opposite in my chart and my parents are celebrating 50 years this year. They had their rough patches but they love each other and have a very solid relationship.

posted February 02, 2018 12:57 PM            

For example A natal chart can indicate how strong a presence one's mother is in their lives and likewise for the father.

So if the natal chart says the father is a weak element there's a good chance the parents divorced and the child lived with mom while dad wasn't around much.

The chart can also show when the home-life is not very stable. Like moving around a lot - And moving around a lot often indicates a divorce happening.

posted February 03, 2018 12:33 PM            

My oldest sister has Libra moon conjunct Libra pluto and parents relationship is still going strong. BUT her relationship with Taurus sun husband, well, is not really good.. Looks like they are not in a relationship but they are IN the relationship.

What moon sign do you have?

@mirage29:

wow! my Mom has Saturn in Capricorn and it conjunct her sun close but out of sign, and I'm not the fan of those conjunction. lol. She was the fully controller at home.

My relationship with my Mom, well, I love her, but I don't always agree with her, so I've known as a rebellious and always feel like I am the black duck at home, just because I don't like how controlling and rigid she can be towards how I live my life. It's funny that we have sun conjunct sun, but I don't have sun conjunct saturn like her, so, yeah.. we're so different LOL.

But I do have moon trine saturn, so I kind of can see and understand her side and she is so much like a Cap sun traits to me.

@LunaCienna:
"...the dynamic of parenting also shows through the natal chart how someone can be a strong force..."

I think it may have some truth in it. It's fascinating to know all of this.

@diamondbaby & @mereiposa:

How about the opposition is not the aspect, but only the sign? My partner has sun opposite moon in the sign, although his parents are still married, their relationship has no too much affection to each other, more like, they have separate life but living at the same roof.

@manderin: