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bella_taurus
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posted January 29, 2018 02:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bella_taurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So..

I calculated my SR for 2018. It’s TERRIBLE. I have my Sun in 12th, along with Uranus. A Water Trine, and a Kite. To top it off with rancid sprinkles, I have the fixed star Algol in Venus 12th House Taurus. I am so terrified. And that’s putting it lightly. I’ve had such ****** Returns the past several years it’s crazy. I want to travel for my birthday so bad to avoid this I would do anything to get up the money for it. I’m frustrated...I’ve been through ENOUGH **** .

I’m scared guys.

Freakin’ scared.

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Melinn
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posted January 29, 2018 10:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Melinn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No don't be! I had one year with 5-6 planets in 12th house along with saturn. What happened that year? Nada! It was a very bland normal year.

Thats why I often don't look at my solar returns before hand. Because I don't wanna think negative thoughts and draw negatives energies to my life. It's not productive. Evene if it looks like a good chart, and then nothing good happens, one will get disappointed because of that too!

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Iridia
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posted January 29, 2018 12:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Iridia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Melinn

Bella, can you explain what terrifying things you see in those 12th house placements? And did it occur to you that your mentioned frustration may be heavily coloring your interpretation?

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I have the fixed star Algol in Venus 12th House Taurus.

Do you mean Algol conjunct Venus? Anyway, I don't really pay attention to fixed stars and it sounds like you'd benefit from my approach.

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mirage29
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posted January 29, 2018 01:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bella {{ }} .... {{{{{hug}}}}}

I get where you're coming from.
Melinn, excellent advice.

I'm soooo very sorry you're feeling this way right now.

In the REAL Reality world.. The 'sense and feel' right now are that things be dangerous and precarious right now.

Sooo many unpredictable, unexpected, and crowd-rushed-forced Changes made upon the main people. There's even a sense that we've lost control of the whole frickin' wheel?

All we can really do is to safeguard The Values you have, and if you have people who Love you , then, commune with them the best way you know how.

I've been thinking for the past 24 hours and days, how MUCH Values are shifting and changing--- and some segments of society, are heading for the worse of who we are, and for the darker-expressions of it.

If you have a good belief-system or safe practice, then stay 'centered' in the Best of it; anchor the best way, with the best hopes you can.

Reminds me slightly of this scene from Indiana Jones--

(topic) Opening the ark (clip from Raiders of the Lost Ark) [4:58] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0APF3SO9tqE


Walk your journey..
WE are Not Alone.


I had the 'strangest creepiest' sense the other day, how faith seems to have gone-missing from people. Like the withdrawing of the tides of beach edge before tsunami?


It's like a segment of people have "lost" an ability to see Above their circumstance and lots. A leaden dark void blanket-- and people are scrambling to 'find' someone in the blurr and dark--, even themselves--, in order to Find 'what it is'?

It's like the 'soul' is being cut-away, and stripped of outer bark.
No or little-joy. No 'seeing'.

It's had the effect of being a millstone, trying to take us down, and to move society towards having darker 'affects'?

It's a crushing constriction, grouping, yet not.
A 'limiting' effect.
No breath. No ceiling. Just 'box'. Just 'stuck' inside limit-lines.

And fear... is like the result of breathing-in this 'stale' oxygen(pleasureJoy)-deprived state, in that tight-boxed enclosure.

I say....

DARE to Care.

Keep your Heart as open as you can, WHILE guarding it too--
not everyone is to be trusted?
Ulterior motives abounding?

I think that as long as we can keep conversation going with others who ARE in their authentic (and spiritually enhanced) space, then we find we are not-alone, and HAVE each other.
I really 'feel' you today.
I Care about how you feel.
*virtual hug* ...


My God....

Some of the television shows from the past boil back up in my spirit.

Society is being brought into having a 'crisis of faith'-- faith in self, faith in God, faith in each other and in a sense of Humanity?

**my guts resonate for people in that space**

(music) No One is Alone (Mandy Patinkin, and Roma Downey; dramatic scene from TV Series Touched By An Angel, where the angel-herself is having an arid crisis of faith) [2:26] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emi4UpeY6LY

When I have had personal friends and acquaintances moving through fear or 'grief states' (some are LL members), I've encouraged them to light a votive candle. (If you use stones, hold or have nearby some Rose Quartz and Black Tourmaline.)

When they see the 'flame', to KNOW that I {or someone you would partner with} have lit a flame at home also. When you hold the rocks that came out of the Earth, know that we stand on that same globe in-common.

We look to The Light, and have Presence together.

The Light of our InnerHeart and being, and having the Life-giving Light from Above.

The Sun. The Sun is a Light, that gives Life, and purifies~cleanses EVERYTHING. It is sooo Powerful.

EACH PERSON experiences the Sun. That is the MOST common experience we have on the planet. It remains in your Imagination too-- which you can 'access'.

(For me, I think of God's Presence with that Light.)

When you go out in the SUN, the SAME Sun that lights and warms you, warms me, warms ALL.

Even at night... we can see the Sun's light reflected to us from the Moon (for at least 3 of the weeks? LOL).

Think of our common-ness.
Everywhere, we share that.
We really do.

Like the flame of a candle,
so is
HOPE in your Heart.
Keep that Alive.
When we all keep HOPE deep in our beating Hearts,
then THAT becomes a 'common' vibe.

We can Encourage each other.
Understand your fellow human being.

(music) You'll Never Walk Alone (Celtic Women, lyrics) [3:58] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7du-RHGrJrA


People can be nasty and soooo Untrue.
Be Real. Maintain the most Central Gentle Strong Hope that you can.

If you're a good-intended person?, then know, there are Others of us out there too. And, be careful for people who 'feign' good in order to draw for themselves 'profits.'

We Resonate Together, maybe invisibly? but we Tone with each other, palpably, and in non-local spaces, Together.

(music) You Raise Me Up (Celtic Women, lyrics) [3:58] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHodUyRTFms

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Kannon McAfee
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posted January 29, 2018 10:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bella, it is my opinion that you are putting yourself through fear and anxiety for no reason. This is not the purpose of astrology.

Look at your slower moving planetary transits, and be aware of what they mean and their timing. That starts with Pluto and moving inward to Jupiter. For example, Pluto is now in transit opposite your natal Moon and square natal Pluto, coming to a sextile to natal Uranus. Saturn and Pluto transit parallel your natal Neptune. Investigate those and understand what processes they are synchronizing within you.

Mars occasionally stirs us up, but it is generally the outer slower planets that frame up our windows of opportunity and reveal hidden dynamics to the stresses we feel.

I'm sure I've had many terrible looking solar returns -- if I'd actually looked at them and assessed them that way. But I don't see the point of doing it. Astrology's influence is continuous and aggregate.

You can still have a great year.

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Declinations: because the planets move north and south of the celestial equator

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bella_taurus
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posted January 30, 2018 07:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bella_taurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you ALL for your replies! I got into my feelings and got scared and worried at the same time. Astrology is important to me, and I know it’s degree of accuracy depends on many things, I depend on it to guide me in more of a positive way versus negative. The past several years have been a struggle and I’m trying hard to stay positive and hope for the best more than ever. I suppose time will tell. Thank you! I appreciate you guys’ guidance and input. Much love to you ALL! ❤️❤️❤️

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Iridia
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posted January 31, 2018 09:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Iridia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Full Moon can be a time of purging and it sounds like you started letting go of fear, keep it up!

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I know it’s degree of accuracy depends on many things

Astrology shows us the potentials of our lives and beings. It's our interpretation that is accurate or not. The more neutral you can be, the easier it should be for you to utilize your existing knowledge and learn. And the better you know yourself & the more you own your free will, the more likely you are to enjoy the reflection crystallizing in that blurry mirror.

Now, while I see some value in SR charts, I share my preference for transits with Kannon. Consider giving them more attention (if you're not in deep already), I think you won't regret it.

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mirage29
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posted January 31, 2018 09:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How you doing Bella?

This was a "surprising" rough one (for me too).

I heard that this one was an especially emotional moon-- DESIGNED for us to "Release" things... like Fears, Past Fears, the things that have haunted us.

Whatever needs releasing OUT of you right now, go 'bury it in your backyard' !

Sending you LOTS of Love.
Loved seeing all those Hearts!

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bella_taurus
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posted February 01, 2018 06:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bella_taurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mirage29:
How you doing Bella?

This was a "surprising" rough one (for me too).

I heard that this one was an especially emotional moon-- DESIGNED for us to "Release" things... like Fears, Past Fears, the things that have haunted us.

Whatever needs releasing OUT of you right now, go 'bury it in your backyard' !

Sending you LOTS of Love.
Loved seeing all those Hearts!


Hi Mirage,

Thank you, thank you, thank you for your sweet messages! They make me smile! Well...the past few days have been a doozy. My job is nightmare, and I’m so tired of struggling financially and spiritually. I went through the same stuff during the August Eclipse. I feel lost, tired, and weary. I’m literally weak from all this strife. I hope I make it through.

Peace and love,

Bella

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