posted February 01, 2018 08:39 AM            

I've long used Chiron as the ruler of Virgo and it works wonderfully as the cusp ruler, backing this up every time.

So, along with the 'wounded healer' type explanations that go along with Chiron, I look at the typical Virgoan tendency toward detail, fault finding, discriminative analysis, the desire to help and at times even 'be of service' to others also.

In my natal chart Chiron is in Aries, 6th House, 5 degrees from being conjunct my DSC. I find that this perfect exemplifies my distaste for violence and the way I avoid very angry people (anger can feel like an energetic attack to my energy, I'm very sensitive to physical type anger). I'm very tidy and organised in the home and whilst not somebody who cleans a lot, I'm very mindful of feng shui, and really loathe clutter.

Also the connection to my 7th House brings a desire to look for 'perfection' in a partner. I'm not perfect myself, but I find that until I'm emotionally involved, I look for imperfections and reasons to find a suitor unattractive. Not in a judgemental way you understand but in a kind of "can I be physically close to that human body" kind of way.

I couldn't even drink out of the same cup as my siblings as a child. I had to actively reprogram myself not to be repulsed by other people's saliva!

Anyway, I've never really talked about this much but I was wondering if it's an isolated thing? Perhaps other people with Chiron in, ruling or close to their 7th house have experienced this??

Perhaps you have Chiron in the 3rd House find that there are some voices that you really can't abide? etc. etc. ?

posted February 01, 2018 11:23 AM            

Chiron to me I have understood to be Saturn on steroids. Chiron has one seeking therapy.

So when in 6th , I would think that there would be challenges and hardships at work.

Perhaps a hostile work environment where one feels underappreciated and overworked. Or where one feels that the work does not reflect what they want to do or is painfully unsatifying. And the individual feels trapped.

When in 7th, these feelings are towards commitment, partnerships and relationships.

Perhaps one feels that they"settled", the marriage is painful or surfaces insecurities.

posted February 01, 2018 11:30 AM            

To me it makes sense! I'm also not big on planets that rules 2 signs, it does not seem right to me.

posted February 01, 2018 12:07 PM            

My Chiron is only really sextile my Sun, so it’s quite a comfortable position and I don’t think I expect perfection in myself. Or at least although I do my best to look and perform my best, I am at peace with my imperfections now I’ve reached my 40s ;-)

Venus-Pluto there is pretty intense, and very sexy too. I know from experience that you can’t force yourself not to find ‘flaws’, but there are deeper levels of ‘the perfect partner’ which I want to be open to, rather than superficial ones (damn that Libra rising haha!)

Hi Aries,

I honestly don’t see the 6th house as work; rather ‘duties’ which tend to fit more into the home domain for myself personally. My Cancer MC better describes my work, I always have to be the protective, healing, counselling person in the workplace ;-) I suppose the ‘healing’ element of Chiron isn’t adverse to that in some ways too! I’m more of a perfectionist at home than at work though.

~Where’s your Chiron?

Exactly Melinn,

When I was learning astrology I thought ‘Virgo and Mercury??’ nah. It didn’t even temporarily sit with me, neither did dual rulership. One of the things I love about astrology is that there is so much to work on, so much that’s not been refined, so much left to *invent*!! Hahah!! (Uranus Rising, can you tell?)

That sounds complex Mirage29.

I don’t have time to get my head around all that. Great that you’ve had a healing effect on your partner though. 

Where is your own Chiron?

posted February 01, 2018 01:41 PM            

I agree with the healing element of the Chiron in 6th placement. This would be fitting indeed.

My Chiron is in Taurus in the 2nd. So I could be a healer of my financial woes or bring healing to those people in financial woes? Ehhh...don't know

I don't study Chiron a lot and my understanding of it is limited to Saturn comparisons.

But I guess it does have a softer edge and a higher degree of compassion than Saturn.

posted February 01, 2018 10:50 PM            

Just for a different perspective---

(topic) The Art of Becoming: Introduction to Chiron (Eric Francis Coppolino, PlanetWavesTV, posted Jan 21, 2018) [34:12] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTn1Ws1SSdY

YT Notes--
This is the first of two Chiron videos that are part of The Art of Becoming, the 2018 annual readings by Eric Francis.

posted February 06, 2018 08:09 AM            

There seems to be a lack of clarity still and when I wrote this article I felt like I was channeling!!

I'm still really interested to hear people's experiences of Chiron's natal wounds, but I guess this may help to recognise:

https://waxlobster.blogspot.co.uk/

Shalom~~~ :-)

posted February 12, 2018 10:40 PM            

Mercury rules my 8th house and my chiron and it falls in my 10th house. I am a mental health counselor.

posted February 13, 2018 12:22 PM            

This is what I thought Chiron in 7th was all about.But I am still learnin I guess.

I thought that Chiron in 7th would be that pain/healing coming through in relationships (7th)

I would picture this placement being someone left on the aisle on their wedding day. Or a partner pulling out and disappearing on them.

Some very personal/painful thing that changes their perspective on trust/attachment and dependency on another(7th)

It could even suggest spousal abuse or neglect in extreme cases- if Mars/Saturn are also interacting with it.

posted February 13, 2018 03:22 PM            

The difference with Chiron in the 7th is that it will hurt more deeply. It will be experienced as a wound, as a personal slight, as if there is 'something wrong with you.' This is a common way to identify Chiron ~feeling that you are flawed, imperfect, shameful~

Chiron in a house/sign/aspect will bring a spotlight of weakness to that location.

The key (pun intended) is to learning to accept this part of ourselves. It's not like Saturn, where you need to work extra hard, it's almost the opposite you almost need to learn to wear your pain on the outside and admit that it exists.

Of course we're not really living in a world where that kind of pain is acceptable. When people ask, "how are you?" they often don't wish to hear the real answer, and if you go to a professional with a problem they'll often try to dose you up on pills and send you on your way.

Truth is we're all hurting and it is hard for most people to really talk about the source of the pain, many have covered it up (or been suppressed in their youth) so much that they don't even recognise it.

Hence, I feel that through Chiron we have this point where we can really unravel the depths of the psyche.

Chiron is exalted in Gemini as it's less easy to 'hide' the pain in a sign which is so geared towards communication and transmission of information.

I love Chiron, I don't feel that the wound holds us back, I feel that by sitting with what it brings to the surface we can really learn to be great healers. All of us! :-)

Of course Virgo is the sign of healing, and service to others, as this is the true nature of Chiron.

As with all of the planets (and yes I do treat Chiron as a planet, it has a strong enough orbit and I don't like to be too sizest...) there are higher and lower octaves of expression.

The lower octaves of Chiron are criticism, perfectionism, self loathing, feeling unworthy, unclean, tainted and wanting nobody to see the real you.

The higher octaves are sharing ones pains and experience of frailty, accepting that we're all flawed and imperfect and that this is where true beauty lies. By accepting others, we are healing others and stepping towards unconditional love.

Venus-Chiron, Chiron-Jupiter and Chiron-Neptune contacts in synastry can vibrate at a very high, soulmate like frequency. :-)

posted February 13, 2018 04:23 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
@hypatia238

This is what I thought Chiron in 7th was all about.But I am still learnin I guess.

I thought that Chiron in 7th would be that pain/healing coming through in relationships (7th)

I would picture this placement being someone left on the aisle on their wedding day. Or a partner pulling out and disappearing on them.

Some very personal/painful thing that changes their perspective on trust/attachment and dependency on another(7th)

It could even suggest spousal abuse or neglect in extreme cases- if Mars/Saturn are also interacting with it.

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My story is unique.

I broke up with him, I was young and did not have the best relationship skills and then coped with the break up by moving to another country so I broke his heart but broke mine in the process just as badly or more, I could feel his pain and I felt like death for a long time bc every cell in my body felt in pain.

posted February 13, 2018 04:33 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by waxlobster:
Well, look at this way. Nearly all of us have our hearts broken at some point, it's the way of life and the modern world.

The difference with Chiron in the 7th is that it will hurt more deeply. It will be experienced as a wound, as a personal slight, as if there is 'something wrong with you.' This is a common way to identify Chiron ~feeling that you are flawed, imperfect, shameful~

Chiron in a house/sign/aspect will bring a spotlight of weakness to that location.

The key (pun intended) is to learning to accept this part of ourselves. It's not like Saturn, where you need to work extra hard, it's almost the opposite you almost need to learn to wear your pain on the outside and admit that it exists.

Of course we're not really living in a world where that kind of pain is acceptable. When people ask, "how are you?" they often don't wish to hear the real answer, and if you go to a professional with a problem they'll often try to dose you up on pills and send you on your way.

Truth is we're all hurting and it is hard for most people to really talk about the source of the pain, many have covered it up (or been suppressed in their youth) so much that they don't even recognize it.

Hence, I feel that through Chiron we have this point where we can really unravel the depths of the psyche.

Chiron is exalted in Gemini as it's less easy to 'hide' the pain in a sign which is so geared towards communication and transmission of information.

I love Chiron, I don't feel that the wound holds us back, I feel that by sitting with what it brings to the surface we can really learn to be great healers. All of us! :-)

Of course Virgo is the sign of healing, and service to others, as this is the true nature of Chiron.

As with all of the planets (and yes I do treat Chiron as a planet, it has a strong enough orbit and I don't like to be too sizest...) there are higher and lower octaves of expression.

The lower octaves of Chiron are criticism, perfectionism, self loathing, feeling unworthy, unclean, tainted and wanting nobody to see the real you.

The higher octaves are sharing ones pains and experience of frailty, accepting that we're all flawed and imperfect and that this is where true beauty lies. By accepting others, we are healing others and stepping towards unconditional love.

Venus-Chiron, Chiron-Jupiter and Chiron-Neptune contacts in synastry can vibrate at a very high, soulmate like frequency. :-)

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Beautifully said!

In the spirit of this thread I will share a video by Brene Brown titled "the power of vulnerability," very fitting of the Chiron theme, great Ted Talk:
http://www.ted.com/talks/brene_brown_on_vulnerability#t-1200504

posted February 18, 2018 04:26 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Another great Ted talk titled "how to fix a broken heart":
http://www.ted.com/talks/guy_winch_how_to_fix_a_broken_heart

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posted September 09, 2020 11:00 AM            

Could someone confirm? My chart is in the signature

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My natal chart with asteroids http://i.imgur.com/1IG2Im4.png

and without asteroids http://i.imgur.com/Tl0L7oL.png

posted September 16, 2020 06:11 PM            

The things about Neptune transits that is important to remember is that things aren't as bad as they seem; you aren't as lost as you feel now.

Maybe just as important, Pluto (and Saturn) has been transiting conjunct your natal Moon and Venus for a while now. That is a fundamental shift in your values in which you get more in touch with your real feelings and needs; and how you truly want to enact your values and love of others in your life. This requires some personal emotional/inner inventory taking. It isn't fun, but can be gratifying once it is done. Pluto's transit to natal Moon-Venus has a couple years or more left.

These are two major outer planet transits that make this a unique time in your life. If you need to take time off from school, so be it. Understand this is a soul process of inner growth, a shift from outer to inner. Be patient and understanding with yourself and look for ways to get better in touch with what matters most to you; get insights as to what patterns of action, habits, expectations, etc, that need to change.

Allow room for the unexpected, for developments that will take you where you want to go, but in a different form from what you'd previously imagined.

The difficulty can be from the mutability which encourages plenty of seemingly varied or contradictory interests. There is no contradiction unless you place yourself on the horns of a dilemma unnecessarily. Don't equate a major, for example, with a commitment to or absolute qualification for a particular line of work or career.

Find where interests can converge in activity, even if that doesn't fall under a particular label or category. But don't think this 10th house stuff obligates you to a "career" that others would agree is a career.